Representations by probabilistic Frobenius-Euler and degenerate Frobenius-Euler polynomials

Dae San Kim; Taekyun Kim

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Representations by probabilistic Frobenius-Euler and degenerate Frobenius-Euler polynomials

Taekyun Kim, Dae San Kim

Number Theory · Submitted 24 Aug 2025

Pith's verdict: Plausible abstract-only umbral calculus note extending Frobenius-Euler polynomials to probabilistic and degenerate settings; the basis claim survives scrutiny, but the explicit formulas are unverifiable without the full text.

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CitationDae San Kim, Taekyun Kim. "Representations by probabilistic Frobenius-Euler and degenerate Frobenius-Euler polynomials." arXiv:2508.17189 (2025). https://pith.science/paper/6FXRW6TU

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The abstract promises a representation theorem for arbitrary polynomials in terms of probabilistic Frobenius-Euler and degenerate Frobenius-Euler polynomials, with explicit umbral-calculus formulas. We only have the abstract, so this is an assessment of plausibility, not of the math.

The reader's main worry—that the mgf assumption alone doesn't force a basis—does not land. In the standard construction the generating function has the form A(t) E[e^{Yt}] e^{xt} (or with Y inside the exponential) with A(0)=1, so the coefficient of x^n is 1/n! times the t^n coefficient plus lower-degree terms. That triangularity gives a basis. The degenerate version uses (1+λ t)^{x/λ}, which also has leading coefficient 1/n!, and higher-order versions multiply by a power of the same series. So the arbitrary-polynomial claim is consistent with the stated assumptions. The stress-test note is right.

What's new is presumably the explicit formulas. We can't see them. No equations, no theorem statements, no examples are in the abstract. So the actual contribution is unverifiable from our side. That's an evidence gap, not a demonstrated flaw, but it keeps me from endorsing the details.

The paper fits squarely in the authors' long-running program on probabilistic and degenerate special polynomials. That program has produced many structurally similar results. There's no sign of a new idea beyond extending the family; the value is in the specificity of the formulas. If they're correct, it's a useful reference for the subfield. If they're not, it's routine.

Minor soft spot: the promised illustrations "for several random variables Y" are unspecified. I'd like to see whether the examples are nontrivial or just confirmations that the triangular structure reproduces known polynomials.

This is a technical note for specialists in umbral calculus and special functions. It is not a breakthrough and does not need a wide audience. But for that subfield, a serious referee can check the umbral manipulations. I'd send it to peer review rather than desk-reject it.

My recommendation: if you work in this area, read the full text once it's out; otherwise the abstract gives you a fair idea of what it is. I would not cite it until I've seen the formulas.

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[Abstract (full text unavailable)] The full text of the manuscript was not provided to the referee; only the abstract was available. Consequently, the explicit umbral calculus derivations, the precise definitions of the polynomial families, and the proofs that the asserted representation formulas hold could not be inspected. This is a review limitation rather than a detected flaw: the abstract's claim that arbitrary polynomials are representable is plausible, since the standard generating function A(t) E[e^{Yt}] e^{xt} with A(0)=1 yields a triangular system with unit leading coefficient, and the degenerate and higher-order variants preserve this property. The referee therefore cannot certify the paper's central claim, but also has no concrete ground to doubt it from the abstract alone.

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The paper claims

Any polynomial can be expressed as a finite linear combination of probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomials associated with a random variable whose moment generating function exists near the origin.

The reading

The paper aims to show that arbitrary polynomials can be represented as finite linear combinations of probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomials attached to a random variable $Y$, provided $Y$ has a moment generating function in a neighborhood of the origin. The same statement is extended to degenerate Frobenius-Euler polynomials and to their higher-order versions. In each case the paper derives explicit formulas for the coefficients using umbral calculus. A sympathetic reader cares because this turns a classical polynomial-family construction into a general basis mechanism parameterized by a probability distribution, with concrete coefficient formulas rather than an abstract existence result.

What carries the argument

The central object is the probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomial sequence associated with a random variable $Y$, defined by a generating function built from the moment generating function of $Y$ in place of the fixed parameter of the classical Frobenius-Euler polynomials. Alongside it are the degenerate and higher-order variants. The mechanism that carries the argument is umbral calculus: it treats the moment sequence as a linear functional on polynomials, converts the defining generating function into an operator identity, and then reads off the coefficients of the representation as the values of that functional on a dual basis. The work this machinery does is to make the existence of the representation constructive: once the generating function condition holds, the same umbral computation yields the expansion coefficients for every polynomial degree.

Extended reading notes

Core claim

Let $Y$ be a random variable whose moment generating function converges in an interval around $0$. The paper constructs probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomials and their degenerate and higher-order variants, and claims that every polynomial in $x$ is a finite linear combination of them. The coefficients in such an expansion are given explicitly through umbral calculus: the sequence of moments of $Y$ is treated as a linear functional, and the formulas express the coefficients in terms of these moments and the Frobenius parameter. The paper illustrates the expansions for several concrete choices of $Y$.

Load-bearing premise

The whole construction rests on the probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomials forming a basis of the polynomial ring for every random variable with a moment generating function near zero; if that basis property fails, the representation of arbitrary polynomials is not guaranteed.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

For every random variable $Y$ with a moment generating function in a neighborhood of $0$, every polynomial of degree $n$ can be written as a finite sum of $n+1$ probabilistic Frobenius-Euler basis elements.
The same representation holds for degenerate probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomials, giving a family of bases that interpolate toward the nondegenerate ones.
Higher-order probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomials provide additional families of bases, indexed by the order, for the same polynomial ring.
The explicit umbral formulas give a practical way to compute the coefficients from the moments of $Y$.
The paper's examples show the expansion in action for several concrete choices of $Y$.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

Editorial inference: if the basis claim holds, then classical Euler and Frobenius-Euler polynomial identities should reappear as the special case where $Y$ is a suitable constant or Bernoulli random variable; the abstract does not state this explicitly.
Editorial inference: the coefficient formulas imply a direct computational route—for a given distribution with known moments, the expansion of any polynomial can be evaluated to machine precision, which could make the representation useful for numerical approximation; this is an extension, not a claim in the abstract.
Editorial inference: the degenerate parameter gives a one-parameter deformation of the basis; whether the expansion coefficients vary continuously and reduce to the classical case as the deformation parameter tends to zero is a natural question the abstract does not address.

Original abstract

Let Y be a random variable whose moment generating function exists in a neighborhood of the origin. The aim of this paper is to represent arbitrary polynomials in terms of probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomials associated with Y and probabilistic degenerate Frobenius-Euler polynomials associated with Y , and more generally of their higher-order counterparts. We derive explicit formulas with the help of umbral calculus and illustrate our results in the case of several random variables Y

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Let Y be a random variable whose moment generating function exists in a neighborhood of the origin. The aim of this paper is to represent arbitrary polynomials in terms of probabilistic Frobenius-Euler polynomials associated with Y and probabilistic degenerate Frobenius-Euler polynomials associated with Y , and more generally of their higher-order counterparts. We derive explicit formulas with the help of umbral calculus and illustrate our results in the case of several random variables Y

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