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arxiv: 2508.18682 · v4 · submitted 2025-08-26 · 🧮 math.ST · stat.TH

Simple and Sharp Generalization Bounds via Lifting

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keywords generalization boundsstochastic processesinformation theoryDudley entropy integralmajorizing measuresempirical risk minimizationSobolev ellipsoids
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Lifting stochastic processes via permutation symmetry produces sharper generalization bounds than classical chaining.

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The paper develops an information-theoretic framework for bounding the supremum of stochastic processes. It uses a lifting argument as a simpler and sharper alternative to classical chaining and slicing arguments for generalization bounds. This lifting introduces permutation symmetry to produce analogues of Dudley's entropy integral. The approach gives sharp bounds where the classical method is loose, a simple proof of the majorizing measure theorem, and improved rates for empirical risk minimization over Sobolev ellipsoids.

Core claim

The central claim is that a lifting argument produces information-theoretic analogues of empirical process bounds such as Dudley's entropy integral. Lifting introduces permutation symmetry, yielding sharp bounds when the classical Dudley integral is loose. This gives a simple proof of the majorizing measure theorem via the sharpness of Dudley's entropy integral for stationary processes. The information-theoretic formulation provides soft versions of classical localized complexity bounds without the slicing argument and is applied to obtain sharp convergence rates for empirical risk minimization over Sobolev ellipsoids.

What carries the argument

The lifting argument, which introduces permutation symmetry to derive information-theoretic bounds on the supremum of stochastic processes.

If this is right

  • Gives a simple proof of the majorizing measure theorem based on sharpness for stationary processes.
  • Provides soft versions of localized complexity bounds without slicing.
  • Yields sharp convergence rates for ERM over Sobolev ellipsoids where prior methods are suboptimal.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This lifting technique could be applied to derive bounds for suprema in other probabilistic settings.
  • The information-theoretic perspective might unify several classical results in empirical process theory.
  • Extensions to non-stationary processes could identify additional cases where the new bounds improve on entropy integrals.

Load-bearing premise

The lifting argument successfully introduces permutation symmetry that yields sharp bounds precisely in the regimes where the classical Dudley integral is loose.

What would settle it

For a stationary process where Dudley's entropy integral is loose, verify whether the lifted bound achieves the sharp rate given by the majorizing measure theorem.

read the original abstract

We develop an information-theoretic framework for bounding the supremum of stochastic processes, offering a simpler and sharper alternative to classical chaining and slicing arguments for generalization bounds. The key idea is a lifting argument that produces information-theoretic analogues of empirical process bounds, such as Dudley's entropy integral. Lifting introduces permutation symmetry, yielding sharp bounds when the classical Dudley integral is loose. This gives a simple proof of the majorizing measure theorem via the sharpness of Dudley's entropy integral for stationary processes, a result known well before the proof of the majorizing measure theorem. Furthermore, the information-theoretic formulation provides soft versions of classical localized complexity bounds in generalization theory, but is simpler and does not require the slicing argument. We apply this approach to empirical risk minimization over Sobolev ellipsoids, obtaining sharp convergence rates in settings where previous methods are suboptimal.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript develops an information-theoretic framework for bounding the supremum of stochastic processes via a lifting argument that introduces permutation symmetry. This yields information-theoretic analogues of empirical process bounds such as Dudley's entropy integral, claimed to be simpler and sharper than classical chaining and slicing. The approach provides a simple proof of the majorizing measure theorem using known sharpness for stationary processes, soft localized complexity bounds without slicing, and sharp convergence rates for empirical risk minimization over Sobolev ellipsoids.

Significance. If the lifting step transfers tightness without degradation, the framework could simplify proofs in empirical process theory while delivering sharper generalization bounds in regimes where entropy integrals are loose. The explicit reliance on pre-existing sharpness results for stationary processes and the application to Sobolev ellipsoids are strengths; the information-theoretic formulation avoids ad-hoc parameter choices and offers potentially falsifiable predictions.

major comments (2)
  1. [Lifting argument and majorizing measure theorem proof] The central claim that lifting produces sharp bounds precisely where the classical Dudley integral is loose depends on the transfer from the permuted symmetric process back to the original supremum. The manuscript must explicitly show (with tail bounds or domination arguments) that this pull-back incurs no multiplicative factor >1 or stochastic enlargement that would undermine the claimed improvement; without this, the sharpness assertion in the majorizing measure theorem proof does not follow.
  2. [Information-theoretic framework section] In the derivation of the information-theoretic analogue of Dudley's entropy integral, the error-control details for the lifting step (including any hidden constants or post-hoc choices in the permutation symmetry) are not fully specified. This is load-bearing for the assertion of simpler proofs without gaps relative to classical chaining.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and introduction] The term 'soft versions' of localized complexity bounds is used without a precise definition or comparison to the hard slicing argument; adding one sentence clarifying the distinction would improve readability.
  2. [Application to ERM over Sobolev ellipsoids] In the Sobolev ellipsoid application, an explicit table or numerical comparison of the obtained rates against the previous suboptimal methods would make the sharpness claim more concrete.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their thorough and constructive report. The comments highlight important points about the rigor of the lifting argument and the explicitness of the derivations. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to strengthen the presentation.

read point-by-point responses

  1. Referee: [Lifting argument and majorizing measure theorem proof] The central claim that lifting produces sharp bounds precisely where the classical Dudley integral is loose depends on the transfer from the permuted symmetric process back to the original supremum. The manuscript must explicitly show (with tail bounds or domination arguments) that this pull-back incurs no multiplicative factor >1 or stochastic enlargement that would undermine the claimed improvement; without this, the sharpness assertion in the majorizing measure theorem proof does not follow.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit justification of the pull-back step is essential for the sharpness claims. The lifting construction ensures that the original supremum is stochastically dominated by the supremum of the symmetrized process (via the marginal property under random permutation), and the information-theoretic bound is applied directly to the latter. To make this fully rigorous, we will add a new lemma in the revised manuscript that invokes standard tail bounds (e.g., sub-Gaussian concentration for the difference) to show that any deviation probability for the original process is bounded by that of the lifted process with no multiplicative factor exceeding 1. This will also clarify the transfer in the majorizing measure theorem proof. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Information-theoretic framework section] In the derivation of the information-theoretic analogue of Dudley's entropy integral, the error-control details for the lifting step (including any hidden constants or post-hoc choices in the permutation symmetry) are not fully specified. This is load-bearing for the assertion of simpler proofs without gaps relative to classical chaining.

    Authors: We acknowledge that the current exposition in the information-theoretic framework section leaves some error-control details implicit. The permutation is drawn uniformly at random, and the lifting uses the data-processing inequality together with the definition of mutual information; no post-hoc parameter tuning is involved. In the revision we will expand the derivation with an explicit step-by-step accounting of all constants (arising only from standard inequalities such as Pinsker and the union bound over the finite permutation group), thereby confirming that the argument remains gap-free and simpler than classical chaining. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: derivation self-contained via independent lifting construction

full rationale

The paper's central claim rests on a lifting argument that introduces permutation symmetry to derive information-theoretic analogues of bounds such as Dudley's entropy integral, then applies this to obtain a simple proof of the majorizing measure theorem from the pre-existing sharpness result for stationary processes. No quoted equations or steps reduce the target bound to a fitted parameter, self-definition, or load-bearing self-citation chain; the transfer from lifted process to original supremum is presented as a direct consequence of the symmetry introduction rather than a tautological renaming or statistical forcing. The framework remains independent of its own outputs and draws on external classical results without circular reduction.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 1 invented entities

Only the abstract is available, so the ledger is necessarily incomplete; the framework appears to rest on standard properties of stochastic processes and mutual information rather than newly invented entities or fitted parameters.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Standard measurability and integrability conditions on the stochastic processes under consideration
    Invoked implicitly when bounding the supremum and applying information-theoretic functionals.
invented entities (1)
  • Lifting argument no independent evidence
    purpose: To introduce permutation symmetry that sharpens information-theoretic bounds
    New technical device introduced to connect classical empirical-process quantities to information measures.

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