REVIEW 5 major objections 5 minor 31 references
Solutions for Mitotic Figure Detection and Atypical Classification in MIDOG 2025
T0 review · 5 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-05 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read Two-stage cascade detects mitotic figures at F1 0.8432
desk verdict A plausible challenge report undone by an inconsistent baseline in its main detection claim; the atypical classification section is more solid. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The two-stage detection-classification cascade: stage one is the FCOS anchor-free detector predicting centers, box offsets, and objectness; stage two crops each positive candidate to a patch and runs a ResNet50/EfficientNet ensemble classifier that keeps only confirmed candidates. The companion machinery is probability averaging across independently trained models for atypical/normal classification, with the ConvNeXt+CBAM family as the strongest single backbones.
What would settle it
Run the same detection pipeline under repeated cross-validation on the MIDOG++ dataset, reporting F1 and AP as distributions, and plot the precision-recall curves of the detector alone versus detector-plus-classifier at matched recall. If the cascade's F1 advantage does not persist across folds or shifts with threshold, the claimed benefit is not robust.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central claim is that detection and classification should be separated: an anchor-free FCOS detector is tuned for high recall, and a dedicated convolutional classifier re-examines each proposed patch to suppress impostor cells such as apoptotic bodies and lymphocytes. The paper reports that this cascade raises F1 from 0.803 to 0.8432 on its validation split while noting AP decreases from 0.842 to 0.787, and that ensembling two classifiers outperforms either alone. For atypical classification, the paper finds convolutional models, especially the ConvNeXt family with attention, outperform a Vision Transformer on limited data, and that ensembling the top convolutional models gives the best
Load-bearing premise
The detection results rely on one fixed training/validation split with no error bars, so the F1 boost from the added classifier could be an artifact of that split or the score threshold rather than a stable gain.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- If the cascade generalizes, single-stage histology detectors can be improved by a separate patch-level filter without retraining the detector.
- The F1 gain indicates false positives from morphologically similar non-mitotic cells are the bottleneck, and a classifier trained on curated positives and negatives directly attacks that bottleneck.
- The finding that adding canine breast-cancer data helps but canine mast-cell-tumor data hurts suggests domain composition of training data is a first-order choice.
- Ensembling convolutional backbones provides more reliable atypical/normal scores than any single network, which matters for clinical grading where false negatives are costly.
Reading between the lines
- Editorially, the F1 improvement may partly reflect threshold selection: AP falls from 0.842 to 0.787 after the cascade, so the F1 gain could shrink or reverse at matched operating points; a precision-recall curve comparison would settle it.
- Editorially, all detection comparisons rest on one 80/20 split; repeated splits or cross-validation would be needed to confirm that the cascade gain is not split-specific.
- Editorially, the same cascade idea could be tested on other small-object detection tasks in whole-slide histology, such as detecting other rare cell events, where a recall-first detector plus a discriminative patch classifier is a natural fit.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. This manuscript reports the authors' solutions to the two MIDOG 2025 challenge tasks. For mitotic figure detection, they propose a two-stage pipeline: an FCOS detector first proposes candidate regions, and a secondary classifier (ResNet-50 or an ensemble of ResNet-50 and EfficientNet-B2) re-evaluates each candidate to reduce false positives. They report that this cascade improves F1 from 0.803 to 0.8432 on a validation split of MIDOG++. For atypical mitosis classification, they compare several CNN and ViT backbones using 4-fold cross-validation and then ensemble the ConvNeXt family, reporting a balanced accuracy of 0.8794 in cross-validation and 0.86 on the official preliminary evaluation. The paper is written as a challenge-participation report, with implementation details and public datasets.
Significance. If the detection result were properly supported, the main contribution would be a practical demonstration that a detection-classification cascade can boost mitotic-figure detection F1 beyond a strong one-stage detector, which is of interest to the computational pathology community. The atypical classification part is more carefully evaluated: it uses 4-fold cross-validation with standard deviations, compares several modern architectures, and reports an official preliminary evaluation score. The paper also contributes useful details about training data combinations (MIDOG++, CMC, CMCCT) and an honest limitation that no external validation was used during development. However, the central detection claim is currently undermined by an internal inconsistency in the baseline comparison and by the absence of operating-point and variability analyses.
major comments (5)
- [Table 4 and 'Validation of detection-classification framework'] The baseline row in Table 4 (F1=0.803, AP=0.842) is identical to the 'CMC + MIDOG++' row in Table 2, while the text states the baseline was 'trained on MIDOG++'. Table 2 reports MIDOG++-only as F1=0.794, AP=0.782. If the baseline actually used CMC+MIDOG++, then the F1 gain from the cascade (0.803 to 0.8432) is confounded with the gain from adding CMC training data; if the baseline was indeed MIDOG++-only, the table numbers are inconsistent. This must be corrected and the comparison re-run before the central detection claim can be evaluated.
- [Table 4, F1 vs AP] The cascade increases F1 from 0.803 to 0.8432 but decreases AP from 0.842 to 0.787. F1 is computed at a single decision threshold, and the classifier threshold is not reported. A re-ranking cascade can improve F1 at one threshold while degrading the precision-recall ranking, as AP indicates here. Without reporting the threshold, precision-recall curves, or a matched-recall comparison, the F1 improvement alone does not demonstrate 'enhanced detection robustness'. Please provide operating-point details and a threshold-independent analysis (e.g., PR curves or AP with confidence intervals).
- [Tables 1-4, single split] All detection results are based on one fixed 80/20 split, with no cross-validation, repeated runs, or error bars. The classification patch split (7:1:2) in Table 3 also appears to be a single split. Given the small F1 differences involved (e.g., 0.794 vs 0.803) and the threshold sensitivity noted above, the manuscript should report variability across at least a few seeds or split folds, or explicitly state that these are single-run values and avoid making strong comparative claims from them.
- ['Validation of different classification models' and Table 4] The classifier in the cascade is trained on 50x50 patches extracted from MIDOG++ with a 7:1:2 split, while the detector is validated on an 80/20 split of MIDOG++. The paper does not state whether the classifier training/validation patches were separated from the detector validation split. If the classifier saw patches from images that also appear in the detector's validation set, this would leak information and inflate the reported F1. Please clarify the relationship between the patch split and the detection split, and if necessary re-evaluate with strictly disjoint splits.
- ['Preliminary evaluation' and 'Model ensemble'] The final atypical-classification ensemble is described only as 'the family of ConvNeXt models'. It is not specified which models (ConvNeXt_large, ConvNeXt_base, ConvNeXt_base+CBAM?) are included, how many folds contributed, or how the ensemble was selected. Moreover, the cross-validation table used for model selection is also presented as the main result, which risks selection bias. The official preliminary evaluation score (0.86) is reported without confidence intervals or details about the evaluation set size. Please specify the ensemble construction and report the official evaluation with as much metadata as available.
minor comments (5)
- [Introduction] The sentence ending 'similarity to impostor cells (e.g., apoptotic cells or lymphocytes).' is grammatically incomplete; a verb or clause is missing.
- [Table 3] Table 3 reports no standard deviations or confidence intervals, whereas Table 5 does. Adding variability estimates to Table 3 would help interpretation.
- [Table 5] EfficientNetB1's balanced accuracy is reported as 0.8325 ± 0.0000, which suggests identical splits or a rounding artifact; please verify.
- [References] Several references contain formatting artifacts, e.g., 'Y equan Bie' instead of 'Yequan Bie'.
- [Implementation details] The text says 'one NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 GPUs' but singular/plural agreement is inconsistent.
Circularity Check
No circularity: reported results are empirical validations, not derivations from their own inputs.
full rationale
The paper's detection and atypical-classification sections report empirical comparisons on fixed validation splits; no equation defines a target quantity in terms of the result being predicted. The two-stage detector-classifier F1 is obtained by running a detector and a classifier, not by fitting the F1 itself. The single-split design and the Table 4 baseline discrepancy (text says 'trained on MIDOG++' but the quoted F1/AP match the CMC+MIDOG++ row of Table 2) are statistical/reporting concerns, not circularity. Self-citations are for standard techniques (e.g., [28] for ensemble averaging) and are not load-bearing. No uniqueness theorem, ansatz, or renaming is invoked. Therefore no circular step can be exhibited with the required quote-and-reduction standard.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (3)
- Classifier decision threshold in the two-stage cascade =
not reported
- Single 80/20 split for detection and 7:1:2 split for classifier patches =
8:2, 7:1:2
- Ensemble composition for atypical classification =
ConvNeXt family, equal-weight soft voting
assumptions (4)
- domain assumption MIDOG++/MIDOG 2025 annotations and auxiliary dataset labels are correct
- domain assumption The evaluation metrics match the challenge definitions
- domain assumption No data leakage between detection and classification training patches
- domain assumption Standard deep learning training assumptions
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of Solutions for Mitotic Figure Detection and Atypical Classification in MIDOG 2025." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/Q5H6GSYH
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read the original abstract
Deep learning has driven significant advances in mitotic figure analysis within computational pathology. In this paper, we present our approach to the Mitosis Domain Generalization (MIDOG) 2025 Challenge, which consists of two distinct tasks, i.e., mitotic figure detection and atypical mitosis classification. For the mitotic figure detection task, we propose a two-stage detection-classification framework that first localizes candidate mitotic figures and subsequently refines the predictions using a dedicated classification module. For the atypical mitosis classification task, we employ an ensemble strategy that integrates predictions from multiple state-of-the-art deep learning architectures to improve robustness and accuracy. Extensive experiments demonstrate the effectiveness of our proposed methods across both tasks.
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