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arxiv: 2510.11715 · v2 · submitted 2025-10-13 · 💻 cs.CV

Point Prompting: Counterfactual Tracking with Video Diffusion Models

Ayush Shrivastava , Sanyam Mehta , Daniel Geng , Andrew Owens This is my paper

Pith reviewed 2026-05-18 07:04 UTC · model grok-4.3

classification 💻 cs.CV
keywords point trackingvideo diffusion modelszero-shot trackingcounterfactual generationnegative promptingmotion trackingocclusion handlingemergent tracking
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Video diffusion models track points zero-shot by regenerating frames with prompted moving markers.

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The paper establishes that video diffusion models, which synthesize motion, can be directly used to analyze motion through a simple visual prompting technique. A colored marker is placed on the query point in the first frame, after which the model regenerates the video from intermediate noise while the original frame acts as a negative prompt to keep the marker visible. This process propagates the marker along the point's actual trajectory. The resulting tracks are shown to exceed earlier zero-shot approaches in accuracy and to remain reliable even under occlusions.

Core claim

By placing a distinctively colored marker at the query point and regenerating the rest of the video from an intermediate noise level while using the unedited initial frame as a negative prompt, pretrained image-conditioned video diffusion models can propagate the marker across frames to trace the point's trajectory, producing emergent tracks that outperform prior zero-shot methods and often compete with specialized self-supervised models.

What carries the argument

Counterfactual regeneration with marker prompting, where an added colored marker is maintained through negative prompting during video synthesis from noise.

If this is right

  • The emergent tracks outperform those of prior zero-shot methods.
  • The tracks persist through occlusions.
  • Performance is often competitive with specialized self-supervised models.
  • The approach applies across multiple image-conditioned video diffusion models.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Diffusion models may encode detailed implicit motion information that prompting can surface for perception tasks.
  • Similar marker-based prompting could extend to related problems such as multi-point tracking or region segmentation.
  • The technique suggests generative video models could serve as general backbones for several video analysis problems without retraining.

Load-bearing premise

The unedited initial frame used as a negative prompt will keep the artificially added marker visible and correctly positioned throughout the generated video sequence.

What would settle it

Measuring whether marker trajectories extracted from the generated videos match ground-truth point annotations on standard tracking benchmarks when the negative prompt is removed or altered.

read the original abstract

Trackers and video generators solve closely related problems: the former analyze motion, while the latter synthesize it. We show that this connection enables pretrained video diffusion models to perform zero-shot point tracking by simply prompting them to visually mark points as they move over time. We place a distinctively colored marker at the query point, then regenerate the rest of the video from an intermediate noise level. This propagates the marker across frames, tracing the point's trajectory. To ensure that the marker remains visible in this counterfactual generation, despite such markers being unlikely in natural videos, we use the unedited initial frame as a negative prompt. Through experiments with multiple image-conditioned video diffusion models, we find that these "emergent" tracks outperform those of prior zero-shot methods and persist through occlusions, often obtaining performance that is competitive with specialized self-supervised models.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper proposes Point Prompting, a zero-shot point tracking technique that repurposes pretrained image-conditioned video diffusion models. A distinctively colored marker is added to the query point in the initial frame; the video is then regenerated from an intermediate noise level while supplying the unedited initial frame as a negative prompt to preserve the marker. The resulting marker trajectory in the counterfactual video is extracted as the point track. Experiments with multiple diffusion models indicate that these emergent tracks surpass prior zero-shot methods and achieve performance competitive with specialized self-supervised trackers, particularly in the presence of occlusions.

Significance. If the empirical support holds, the work demonstrates an emergent capability in large-scale video diffusion models that links generative synthesis directly to motion analysis without task-specific training or fine-tuning. This could open avenues for leveraging existing generative priors in tracking and related video understanding tasks.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and §3] Abstract and §3 (Method): The negative-prompt mechanism (unedited initial frame supplied to keep the added marker visible) is presented as essential to prevent the diffusion model from removing or fading the marker. No quantitative marker-persistence statistics, failure-rate analysis under occlusion/lighting change/long horizons, or ablation that removes the negative prompt are reported. Because this conditioning step is load-bearing for every downstream tracking claim, its reliability must be verified before the outperformance statements can be accepted.
  2. [§4] §4 (Experiments) and associated tables: The abstract asserts outperformance over zero-shot baselines and competitiveness with self-supervised models, yet the provided description contains no dataset specifications (e.g., TAP-Vid, DAVIS), metric definitions, error bars, or run counts. Without these, it is impossible to judge whether the reported gains are robust or sensitive to post-hoc choices.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Figure 1] Figure 1 (pipeline diagram): The flow from noise level selection through negative prompting to trajectory extraction would be clearer with explicit arrows and labels for each conditioning input.
  2. [§3] Notation: The term 'counterfactual generation' is used without a precise definition distinguishing it from standard conditional sampling; a short clarifying sentence in §3 would help.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive comments, which help clarify the presentation of our method and experiments. We address each major point below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to improve clarity and provide additional supporting analyses.

read point-by-point responses

  1. Referee: [Abstract and §3] The negative-prompt mechanism (unedited initial frame supplied to keep the added marker visible) is presented as essential to prevent the diffusion model from removing or fading the marker. No quantitative marker-persistence statistics, failure-rate analysis under occlusion/lighting change/long horizons, or ablation that removes the negative prompt are reported. Because this conditioning step is load-bearing for every downstream tracking claim, its reliability must be verified before the outperformance statements can be accepted.

    Authors: We agree that quantitative validation of the negative prompt is important given its role in the method. In the revised manuscript, we will add an ablation study measuring tracking performance with and without the negative prompt on representative sequences. We will also report marker persistence rates (percentage of frames where the marker remains visible and trackable) across varying conditions including occlusions, lighting changes, and sequence lengths up to 100 frames. Our preliminary observations indicate that omitting the negative prompt frequently causes the marker to be inpainted away, consistent with the model's bias toward natural video content, but we will provide the requested empirical statistics to substantiate this. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§4] The abstract asserts outperformance over zero-shot baselines and competitiveness with self-supervised models, yet the provided description contains no dataset specifications (e.g., TAP-Vid, DAVIS), metric definitions, error bars, or run counts. Without these, it is impossible to judge whether the reported gains are robust or sensitive to post-hoc choices.

    Authors: We apologize for the insufficient detail in the experimental section. The evaluations use the TAP-Vid and DAVIS-2017 datasets with standard point-tracking metrics including Average Jaccard (AJ), Occlusion Accuracy (OA), and Average Distance (AD). We will revise §4 to explicitly list the datasets, provide precise definitions and formulas for all metrics, include error bars computed over 3 independent runs with different random seeds, and state the total number of evaluated points and sequences. These additions will allow readers to assess robustness directly. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: empirical prompting technique on pretrained models with no self-referential derivation or fitted predictions

full rationale

The paper proposes a prompting-based method for zero-shot point tracking using existing image-conditioned video diffusion models. It describes adding a colored marker to the query point in the initial frame, regenerating the video from intermediate noise, and using the unedited initial frame as a negative prompt to maintain marker visibility. No mathematical derivation chain, equations, or parameter fitting is presented that reduces to its own inputs by construction. The central claims rest on experimental comparisons showing emergent tracks outperforming prior zero-shot methods and competing with self-supervised trackers. This is a self-contained empirical technique relying on pretrained model behavior and direct evaluation, with no self-citation load-bearing steps, ansatz smuggling, or renaming of known results as new derivations. The approach is independent of any internal definitions that would force the outcomes.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim rests on the assumption that pretrained video diffusion models already encode sufficient motion information to propagate an artificial visual marker when guided by negative prompting; this capability is taken as given from prior diffusion model literature rather than derived or measured here.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Pretrained video diffusion models capture enough motion structure to propagate a visible marker across frames when the original frame is used as a negative prompt.
    This premise is required for the marker to remain visible and trace the correct trajectory in the regenerated video.

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