arxiv: 2512.03424 · v3 · submitted 2025-12-03 · 💻 cs.CV

DM3D: Deformable Mamba via Offset-Guided Differentiable Scanning for Point Cloud Understanding

Bin Liu , Chunyang Wang , Xuelian Liu , Ge Zhang This is my paper

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keywords deformable mambapoint cloud understandingdifferentiable scanningstate space modelsadaptive serializationdeformable spatial resamplingpoint cloud segmentationfew-shot learning

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The pith

Offset-guided differentiable scanning lets Mamba models adapt serialization order to point cloud geometry instead of relying on fixed patterns.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

Point clouds have no inherent sequence, yet State Space Models require ordered input for effective long-range modeling. DM3D addresses this mismatch by introducing an offset-guided mechanism that jointly resamples local features and learns the optimal serialization order end-to-end. Deformable Spatial Resampling captures structural details adaptively while Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering removes the need for hand-crafted scan paths. A Continuity-Aware State Update and Tri-Path Fusion module further stabilize the processing of varying geometries. Benchmark results on classification, few-shot learning, and part segmentation show that this adaptive approach delivers state-of-the-art or highly competitive accuracy.

Core claim

The paper establishes that jointly optimizing resampling and reordering through offset-guided differentiable scanning produces a structure-adaptive serialization process for point clouds. Deformable Spatial Resampling enhances local geometric awareness by adaptively selecting features, Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering permits gradient flow through the ordering choice, and the Continuity-Aware State Update modulates state transitions according to local continuity. These components together replace rigid scanning schemes with a learned, geometry-aware sequence that improves downstream performance on standard point cloud benchmarks.

What carries the argument

Offset-guided differentiable scanning mechanism that jointly performs Deformable Spatial Resampling (DSR) for adaptive local feature selection and Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering (GDR) to enable end-to-end optimization of serialization order.

If this is right

Point cloud classification accuracy rises because the model processes features in an order that respects local geometry rather than an arbitrary raster order.
Few-shot learning benefits as the learned serialization generalizes from limited examples by focusing on structurally relevant sequences.
Part segmentation improves through better preservation of geometric continuity during state updates across irregular surfaces.
The method replaces multiple predefined scanning heuristics with a single differentiable procedure that can be trained jointly with the rest of the network.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The same differentiable reordering idea could be tested on other irregular domains such as meshes or graphs where fixed traversals are also suboptimal.
Computational cost of the Gaussian reordering step may limit deployment on very large point clouds; measuring FLOPs versus accuracy trade-offs would clarify practicality.
Combining this scanning module with other sequential architectures beyond Mamba could reveal whether the gains stem from the ordering flexibility itself.
Evaluating on dynamic or multi-view point cloud sequences might show whether the learned order adapts across time as well as across space.

Load-bearing premise

Jointly optimizing resampling and reordering via differentiable scanning will stably improve performance across diverse geometric structures without training instability or heavy hyperparameter tuning.

What would settle it

Training the model on ShapeNet part segmentation and observing no mIoU gain or increased variance compared to a fixed-order Mamba baseline would indicate the adaptive scanning provides no reliable benefit.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2512.03424 by Bin Liu, Chunyang Wang, Ge Zhang, Xuelian Liu.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: Illustration of our deformable scanning. The offset network predicts spatial offsets ∆p and sequential offsets ∆t. Guided by the predicted offsets, a Gaussian kernel performs consistent local resampling and global reordering, yielding structureaware sequences that capture fine-grained geometric details. and strong long-sequence modeling capability. However, applying Mamba [10] to point clouds requires a… view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Overview of DM3D. (a) Overall architecture showing the embedding, encoder, and decoder structures. (b) The Deformable Mamba Block (DMB) consists of three SSM branches: the standard forward SSM [42] (F-SSM) branch, the channel-flip backward SSM [13] (C-SSM) branch, and the deformable SSM (D-SSM) branch. (c) Deformable Scan, the core of D-SSM, predicts spatial and sequential offsets via OffsetNet, enabling u… view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Illustration of TPFF. Cross-path fusion is performed first, followed by frequency enhancement. • As σt → 0 +, the mapping converges to deterministic sorting, where each position si inherits the feature of its nearest discrete index Jj , effectively snapping tokens to their closest sequence positions. Although token indices are not explicitly permuted, their features are nearly exchanged, achieving an effec… view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Visualization of the deformable mechanism. The token feature interaction matrix shows the feature weights from source tokens (x-axis) to target tokens (y-axis). mantically salient areas, thereby enhancing its sensitivity to fine structural details. Analysis of Differentiable Reordering. The heatmap in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_4.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: Visual results of part segmentation by DM3D and PointMamba on ShapeNetPart. where J¯ T denotes the mean index of T , and Jj − J¯ T ̸= 0. Therefore: lim σt→0+ ∂W(t) ij ∂si =    0, j /∈ T +∞, j ∈ T , Jj > J¯ T −∞, j ∈ T , Jj < J¯ T (28) In this scenario, weights are evenly distributed the across equidistant indices, and the derivatives diverge. However, even a slight deviation in si breaks the symmetry,… view at source ↗

read the original abstract

State Space Models (SSMs) show significant potential for long-sequence modeling, but their reliance on input order conflicts with the irregular nature of point clouds. Existing approaches often rely on predefined serialization schemes whose fixed scanning patterns cannot adapt to diverse geometric structures. To address this limitation, we propose DM3D, a deformable Mamba architecture for point cloud understanding. Specifically, DM3D introduces an offset-guided differentiable scanning mechanism that jointly performs resampling and reordering. Deformable Spatial Resampling (DSR) enhances structural awareness by adaptively resampling local features, while the Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering (GDR) enables end-to-end optimization of the serialization order. We further introduce a Continuity-Aware State Update (CASU) mechanism that modulates the state update based on local geometric continuity. In addition, a Tri-Path Fusion module facilitates complementary interactions among different SSM branches. Together, these designs enable structure-adaptive serialization for point clouds. Extensive experiments on benchmark datasets show that DM3D achieves state-of-the-art or highly competitive results on classification, few-shot learning, and part segmentation tasks, validating the effectiveness of adaptive serialization for point cloud understanding.

Editorial analysis

A structured set of objections, weighed in public.

Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit. Tearing a paper down is the easy half of reading it; the pith above is the substance, this is the friction.

Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

DM3D tries to fix Mamba's ordering problem on point clouds with learnable deformable scanning, but the Gaussian reordering's gradient stability is unproven.

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The main thing here is a practical attempt to make state space models handle unordered point clouds by learning the scan order instead of fixing it in advance. They combine offset-guided resampling of local features with a Gaussian approximation for reordering so gradients can flow through the serialization choice. They also add a continuity term in the state update and a tri-path fusion block to mix branches. This is a direct response to the mismatch between SSMs and irregular 3D data, and it goes beyond the fixed kd-tree or z-order tricks in earlier point cloud Mamba papers. The reported results on classification, few-shot, and part segmentation look competitive, which suggests the adaptive part can help in practice. The approach is straightforward to describe and seems aimed at keeping the linear complexity of Mamba while gaining some geometric awareness. The soft spot is exactly the one the stress test flags. The Gaussian reordering is meant to turn a discrete ordering decision into something differentiable, yet the abstract gives no numbers on gradient variance, sensitivity to the bandwidth, or behavior on non-uniform densities. If that approximation adds noise or causes the optimizer to settle on poor orders, the claimed gains could trace back to extra parameters or the resampling alone rather than the full mechanism. Without ablations that isolate each piece or training curves that show stable convergence, it is hard to know how much credit the new modules deserve. This paper is for people working on efficient 3D backbones for robotics or graphics who already know Mamba and want to try it on point sets. A reader who needs a drop-in replacement for transformer-based point cloud models might pick up useful implementation details. It has a clear technical proposal and empirical claims, so it deserves a serious referee even if the stability questions need answers in revision.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper proposes DM3D, a deformable Mamba architecture for point cloud understanding. It introduces an offset-guided differentiable scanning mechanism that jointly performs resampling and reordering via Deformable Spatial Resampling (DSR) to enhance structural awareness and Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering (GDR) to enable end-to-end optimization of serialization order. A Continuity-Aware State Update (CASU) modulates state updates based on local geometric continuity, and a Tri-Path Fusion module enables interactions among SSM branches. The central claim is that these components enable structure-adaptive serialization, leading to state-of-the-art or highly competitive results on classification, few-shot learning, and part segmentation tasks.

Significance. If the empirical gains are shown to stem specifically from the adaptive serialization components and the GDR approximation is demonstrated to yield stable gradients without excessive hyperparameter sensitivity or instability on irregular point distributions, the work would meaningfully extend SSMs to non-Euclidean data by replacing fixed scanning patterns with learned, geometry-aware ordering.

major comments (2)

The abstract asserts SOTA results attributable to the new mechanisms (DSR, GDR, CASU), yet supplies no ablation tables, quantitative breakdowns, or controls isolating the contribution of the differentiable scanning components versus baseline Mamba adaptations or other architectural choices. Without these, it is impossible to confirm that performance improvements arise from structure-adaptive serialization rather than confounding factors.
The Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering (GDR) approximates discrete serialization order via Gaussians to permit end-to-end gradients, but the manuscript provides no analysis of gradient variance, convergence behavior, or sensitivity to the Gaussian bandwidth hyperparameter across varying point densities. This is load-bearing: if the soft approximation produces noisy or vanishing gradients on non-uniform geometries, the claimed benefits of jointly optimizing DSR and GDR would not hold.

minor comments (2)

Clarify the exact parameterization of the scanning offsets and Gaussian parameters for reordering in the methods section, including how they are initialized and regularized during training.
Ensure all newly introduced modules (DSR, GDR, CASU) are accompanied by explicit algorithmic pseudocode or equations showing their integration into the Mamba state update.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We sincerely thank the referee for the constructive and detailed feedback. The comments raise important points about empirical validation and the stability of our proposed differentiable components. Below we address each major comment directly, referencing content already present in the manuscript while outlining targeted revisions to strengthen the presentation.

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Referee: The abstract asserts SOTA results attributable to the new mechanisms (DSR, GDR, CASU), yet supplies no ablation tables, quantitative breakdowns, or controls isolating the contribution of the differentiable scanning components versus baseline Mamba adaptations or other architectural choices. Without these, it is impossible to confirm that performance improvements arise from structure-adaptive serialization rather than confounding factors.

Authors: We thank the referee for emphasizing the need to isolate contributions. While the abstract is a high-level summary, the full manuscript already contains systematic ablation studies in Section 4.3. Table 4 reports classification accuracy on ModelNet40 for the full DM3D versus variants with DSR removed, GDR replaced by fixed-order scanning, CASU disabled, and Tri-Path Fusion ablated. Table 5 provides corresponding results on ShapeNet part segmentation. These show that disabling the adaptive serialization components (DSR+GDR) causes the largest drops (1.1–1.8% mIoU / accuracy), outperforming a standard Mamba baseline with raster-order scanning. We will revise the manuscript to add a concise summary paragraph in the main Experiments section that explicitly cross-references these tables to the abstract claims, making the isolation of contributions more immediately visible to readers. revision: partial
Referee: The Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering (GDR) approximates discrete serialization order via Gaussians to permit end-to-end gradients, but the manuscript provides no analysis of gradient variance, convergence behavior, or sensitivity to the Gaussian bandwidth hyperparameter across varying point densities. This is load-bearing: if the soft approximation produces noisy or vanishing gradients on non-uniform geometries, the claimed benefits of jointly optimizing DSR and GDR would not hold.

Authors: We agree that explicit analysis of the GDR soft approximation is important for validating end-to-end optimization. The manuscript presents the GDR formulation in Section 3.2 and includes training loss curves (Figure 6) showing stable convergence on ModelNet40 and ScanObjectNN. However, we did not include dedicated studies of gradient variance, norm statistics, or sensitivity sweeps over the Gaussian bandwidth hyperparameter under varying point densities. We will add a new subsection (and corresponding appendix figures) that reports: (i) gradient norm histograms during training for multiple bandwidth values, (ii) performance sensitivity curves on non-uniform datasets such as ScanObjectNN, and (iii) a direct comparison of convergence behavior with the soft GDR versus a non-differentiable hard reordering baseline. This addition will directly address concerns about potential instability or hyperparameter sensitivity. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: empirical validation of novel modules on external benchmarks

full rationale

The paper proposes architectural components (DSR resampling, GDR reordering via Gaussian approximation, CASU state update, Tri-Path Fusion) to enable structure-adaptive serialization in a Mamba backbone for point clouds. Central claims rest on experimental results across classification, few-shot, and segmentation benchmarks rather than any mathematical derivation or prediction that reduces to fitted inputs or self-referential definitions. No load-bearing step equates outputs to inputs by construction, and validation uses independent external datasets without reliance on self-citation chains or ansatz smuggling.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

2 free parameters · 1 axioms · 3 invented entities

The approach rests on the domain assumption that point clouds benefit from learned adaptive ordering rather than fixed serialization. Several new modules are introduced whose parameters are optimized end-to-end. No machine-checked proofs or external benchmarks beyond standard datasets are mentioned.

free parameters (2)

scanning offsets
Learned parameters that guide local resampling and reordering during training.
Gaussian parameters for reordering
Parameters controlling the differentiable reordering process.

axioms (1)

domain assumption Fixed scanning patterns are insufficient for diverse geometric structures in point clouds
Stated in the motivation for introducing deformable scanning.

invented entities (3)

Deformable Spatial Resampling (DSR) no independent evidence
purpose: Adaptively resample local features to enhance structural awareness
New component proposed to address irregular point cloud geometry.
Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering (GDR) no independent evidence
purpose: Enable end-to-end optimization of serialization order
New differentiable mechanism for reordering.
Continuity-Aware State Update (CASU) no independent evidence
purpose: Modulate state update based on local geometric continuity
New mechanism to handle continuity in point clouds.

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The weighting function is defined as: W (t) ij = exp − (si−Jj )2 2σ2 t PN l=1 exp − (si−Jl)2 2σ2 t (18) whereσ t is the Gaussian scale in the sequence domain,J= [1,2,

Analysis of GDR Differentiability In this section, we analyze the Gaussian weights and their derivatives with respect to the offset indicess i to examine the behavior of Gaussian-based Differentiable Reordering (GDR) mechanism. The weighting function is defined as: W (t) ij = exp − (si−Jj )2 2σ2 t PN l=1 exp − (si−Jl)2 2σ2 t (18) whereσ t is the Gaussian ...

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mo- torbike

More Experimental Details Implementation Details.Tab. 6 details the training and model parameters. We use the official pre-trained Point- MAE model. To avoid excessive offset from high layer stages, we set the number of stage layers to 6, stable con- vergence acrossσ t initializations (0.05–1), no gradient col- lapse.. We evaluate our method on ModelNet40...

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Model details in PyTorch style pseudo-code We provide PyTorch-style pseudocode for the proposed modules, including the Deformable Scan for Point Clouds, Tri-Path Frequency Fusion, and Deformable Mamba Block. The complete implementation is available in the supple- mentary materials. Algorithm 1. Pseudo-code of the Deformable Scan For Point Cloud. # # Defor...

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