Bounds on Linear Tur\'{a}n Number for Trees
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The pith
Any linear r-uniform hypergraph on n vertices without the hypertree B_4^r has at most (r+1)n/r edges, with extremal examples fully characterized.
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Core claim
We prove the exact bound ex_r^lin(n,B_4^r)≤(r+1)n/r and characterize the extremal hypergraph class, where B_4^r is formed from S_3^r by appending a hyperedge incident to a degree-one vertex.
What carries the argument
The forbidden hypertree B_4^r, obtained by appending one hyperedge to a degree-one vertex of S_3^r, which is used to bound the size of linear r-uniform hypergraphs avoiding it.
Load-bearing premise
Mild divisibility and existence assumptions are required for the general lower-bound construction that achieves n(k-1)/r edges while avoiding any k-edge tree.
What would settle it
A linear r-uniform hypergraph on n vertices with more than (r+1)n/r hyperedges that contains no copy of B_4^r would disprove the upper bound.
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A hypergraph $H$ is said to be \emph{linear} if every pair of vertices lies in at most one hyperedge. Given a family $\mathcal{F}$ of $r$-uniform hypergraphs, an $r$-uniform hypergraph $H$ is \emph{$\mathcal{F}$-free} if it contains no member of $\mathcal{F}$ as a subhypergraph. The \emph{linear Tur\'{a}n number} $ex_r^{\mathrm{lin}}(n,\mathcal{F})$ denotes the maximum number of hyperedges in an $\mathcal{F}$-free linear $r$-uniform hypergraph on $n$ vertices. Gy\'arf\'as, Ruszink\'o, and S\'ark\"ozy~[\emph{Linear Tur\'an numbers of acyclic triple systems}, European J.\ Combin.\ (2022)] initiated the study of bounds on the linear Tur\'an number for acyclic $3$-uniform linear hypergraphs. In this paper, we extend the study of linear Tur\'{a}n numbers for acyclic systems to higher uniformity. We first give a construction for any linear $r$-uniform tree with $k$ edges that yields the lower bound $ ex_r^{\mathrm{lin}}(n,T_k^r)\ge {n(k-1)}/{r}, $ under mild divisibility and existence assumptions. Next, we study hypertrees with four edges. We prove the exact bound $ ex_r^{\mathrm{lin}}(n,B_4^r)\le {(r+1)n}/{r} $ and characterize the extremal hypergraph class, where $B_4^r$ is formed from $S_3^r$ by appending a hyperedge incident to a degree-one vertex. We also prove the bound $ ex_r^{\mathrm{lin}}(n,E_4^r)\le {(2r-1)n}/{r} $ for the crown $E_4^r$. Finally, we give a construction showing $ ex_r^{\mathrm{lin}}(n,P_4^r)\ge {(r+1)n}/{r} $ under suitable assumptions and conclude with a conjecture on sharp upper bound for $P_4^r$.
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper extends linear Turán numbers ex_r^lin(n,F) from the 3-uniform acyclic case to general r-uniformity. It gives a general construction yielding the lower bound ex_r^lin(n,T_k^r) ≥ n(k-1)/r for any linear r-uniform tree T_k^r (under mild divisibility and existence assumptions). For the specific 4-edge hypertree B_4^r (formed by attaching one extra edge to a leaf of S_3^r), it proves the exact upper bound ex_r^lin(n,B_4^r) ≤ (r+1)n/r together with a characterization of the extremal linear hypergraphs. It also establishes the upper bound ex_r^lin(n,E_4^r) ≤ (2r-1)n/r for the crown and a matching-order construction ex_r^lin(n,P_4^r) ≥ (r+1)n/r, ending with a conjecture that the latter is sharp.
Significance. If the proofs hold, the work provides the first exact determination of a linear Turán number for a 4-edge r-uniform tree beyond the 3-uniform setting, together with an explicit extremal characterization. The general tree construction and the clean charging argument for B_4^r are reusable techniques that strengthen the foundation for studying larger acyclic families. The results are parameter-free and rest on direct counting and structural arguments that reference only the cited 2022 predecessor.
minor comments (3)
- [§2] §2 (general construction): the divisibility and existence assumptions for the lower bound are stated but not quantified; adding a sentence on the range of n for which they hold would improve readability.
- [Introduction] Definition of B_4^r: while the abstract describes it as S_3^r plus one pendant edge, a formal vertex/edge listing or small diagram in the introduction would help readers track the charging argument in the upper-bound proof.
- [Final section] The conjecture for P_4^r is stated without any supporting partial upper-bound evidence; a brief remark explaining why the B_4^r method does not immediately apply would clarify the open status.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the careful reading and positive assessment of our manuscript. The summary accurately describes our extension of linear Turán numbers to r-uniform acyclic hypergraphs, the general lower-bound construction, the exact result with characterization for B_4^r, the bound for E_4^r, and the construction plus conjecture for P_4^r. We are pleased with the recommendation for minor revision.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity detected
full rationale
The paper's central results—an exact upper bound ex_r^lin(n,B_4^r) ≤ (r+1)n/r with extremal characterization, plus matching lower bounds for trees and other hypertrees—are obtained via direct constructions under divisibility assumptions and structural analysis of maximal linear hypergraphs avoiding the defined forbidden subhypergraphs (B_4^r formed from S_3^r by leaf attachment, etc.). The only external reference is to the independent 2022 Gyárfás–Ruszinkó–Sárközy paper on the 3-uniform case (different authors), which is used only to motivate the extension and is not load-bearing for the new proofs. No self-definitional steps, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, ansatz smuggling, or uniqueness theorems imported from the authors' own prior work appear. The derivation chain is self-contained and externally falsifiable via the explicit constructions and counting arguments.
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- standard math Standard definitions of linear r-uniform hypergraphs and subhypergraph containment
- domain assumption Existence of certain regular linear hypergraphs under divisibility conditions
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We prove the exact bound ex_r^lin(n,B_4^r)≤(r+1)n/r and characterize the extremal hypergraph class, where B_4^r is formed from S_3^r by appending a hyperedge incident to a degree-one vertex.
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