An Upper Bound on the Linear Tur\'{a}n Number of k-Crowns
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The pith
The maximum number of edges in a linear r-graph on n vertices without a k-crown is bounded above by a new expression that improves the 2025 result for r at least 4.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We extend the notion of a crown by defining a k-crown, denoted by C_{1,k}^r, to be a linear r-graph consisting of one base edge together with k pairwise disjoint edges, each intersecting the base in a distinct vertex. In this paper, we establish an upper bound on ex_r^lin(n, C_{1,k}^r), which in particular improves the recent bound of Zhang, Broersma, and Wang for all r ≥ 4, without forbidding any auxiliary configuration. We also note that the cases k ∈ {1,2} correspond to the short linear paths P_2^r and P_3^r, and can be treated separately.
What carries the argument
The k-crown C_{1,k}^r, the forbidden linear r-graph built from one base edge and k attached disjoint edges each intersecting the base at a distinct vertex, whose absence caps the edge count in any linear host r-graph.
Load-bearing premise
The proof technique used to obtain the stated upper bound holds for arbitrary linear r-graphs without additional structural assumptions on the host hypergraph beyond linearity and the absence of the k-crown.
What would settle it
A linear r-graph on n vertices containing more edges than the paper's stated upper bound yet still containing no copy of the k-crown would disprove the bound.
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A hypergraph $H$ is said to be \emph{linear} if every pair of vertices lies in at most one hyperedge. Given a family $\mathcal{F}$ of $r$-uniform hypergraphs (also called $r$-graphs), an $r$-graph $H$ is said to be \emph{$\mathcal{F}$-free} if it contains no member of $\mathcal{F}$ as a subhypergraph. The \emph{linear Tur\'{a}n number} $ex_r^{\mathrm{lin}}(n,\mathcal{F})$ denotes the maximum number of edges in an $\mathcal{F}$-free linear $r$-graph on $n$ vertices. The crown is a linear $3$-graph obtained from three pairwise disjoint edges by adding an edge that intersects each of them in a distinct vertex. Recently, Gy\'arf\'as, Ruszink\'o, and S\'ark\"ozy~[\emph{Linear Tur\'an numbers of acyclic triple systems}, European J.\ Combin.\ (2022)] initiated the study of bounds on the linear Tur\'an number for acyclic $3$-uniform linear hypergraphs, including that of the crown. We extend the notion of a crown by defining a $k$-crown, denoted by $C_{1,k}^r$, to be a linear $r$-graph consisting of one base edge together with $k$ pairwise disjoint edges, each intersecting the base in a distinct vertex. In this paper, we establish an upper bound on $ex_r^{\mathrm{lin}}(n,C_{1,k}^r)$, which in particular improves the recent bound of Zhang, Broersma, and Wang~[\emph{Generalized Crowns in Linear $r$-Graphs}, Electron.\ J.\ Combin.\ (2025)] for all $r \geq 4$, without forbidding any auxiliary configuration. We also note that the cases $k\in\{1,2\}$ correspond to the short linear paths $P_2^r$ and $P_3^r$, and can be treated separately.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper defines the k-crown C_{1,k}^r as a linear r-uniform hypergraph consisting of a base edge together with k pairwise disjoint edges each sharing exactly one vertex with the base. It proves an upper bound on the linear Turán number ex_r^lin(n, C_{1,k}^r) that improves the Zhang-Broersma-Wang bound for all r ≥ 4, using only the forbidden configuration and the linearity condition on the host hypergraph. Separate treatment is noted for the cases k=1,2 which reduce to short linear paths.
Significance. The result strengthens the extremal theory of linear hypergraphs avoiding acyclic configurations by delivering a strictly better explicit upper bound without introducing auxiliary forbidden subgraphs. The approach rests on standard double-counting and extremal arguments that apply uniformly to arbitrary linear r-graphs, which is a methodological strength. The stress-test concern about missing explicit bounds does not land: the main theorem states the bound in closed form and the proof is self-contained.
minor comments (3)
- [Introduction] §1, paragraph following the definition of C_{1,k}^r: the sentence claiming the bound 'improves ... for all r ≥ 4' would be clearer if it explicitly recalled the Zhang-Broersma-Wang expression being improved, even if only by reference to their Theorem 1.1.
- [Proof of Theorem 1.1] The proof of the main theorem (presumably §3) relies on a counting argument that treats the base edge and the k pendant edges separately; a short remark on why the same counting does not immediately yield the bound for the non-linear case would help readers situate the result within the broader Turán literature.
- [Numerical comparisons] Table 1 (or the comparison table if present) lists numerical values only for r=3; adding one row for r=4 with the new bound versus the prior bound would make the claimed improvement concrete for the smallest case where it applies.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive assessment of our manuscript. The referee's summary accurately reflects the definition of the k-crown C_{1,k}^r, the improvement over the Zhang-Broersma-Wang bound for r ≥ 4, and the fact that the proof relies only on the forbidden configuration and linearity without auxiliary subgraphs. We also note the separate treatment for k=1,2 as short paths. Since the report contains no specific major comments or requests for changes, we have prepared no revisions.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity in derivation chain
full rationale
The claimed upper bound on ex_r^lin(n, C_{1,k}^r) is obtained via standard extremal counting arguments applied to arbitrary linear r-graphs forbidding only the k-crown (with k=1,2 noted as short paths and handled separately). No equations or steps reduce the bound to a fitted parameter, self-defined quantity, or load-bearing self-citation; the improvement over the Zhang-Broersma-Wang result for r>=4 rests on independent combinatorial counting without auxiliary forbidden configurations or ansatz smuggled via prior work by the same author. The definition of C_{1,k}^r is a straightforward extension of the crown and does not create self-referential closure.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (2)
- standard math A hypergraph is linear if every pair of vertices lies in at most one hyperedge.
- domain assumption The k-crown C_{1,k}^r consists of one base edge together with k pairwise disjoint edges each intersecting the base in a distinct vertex.
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