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arxiv: 2602.18061 · v2 · submitted 2026-02-20 · ✦ hep-ph

Signs of universality in the behavior of elastic textit{pp} scattering cross-sections at high energies

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keywords high-energy pp scatteringinelastic cross-section dominancecross-section ratiosuniversalitypion-proton mass ratioquadratic equationelastic scattering
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Rapid inelastic growth in high-energy pp scattering fixes the pion-proton mass ratio and cross-section minima at roots of a quadratic equation.

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The paper examines the behavior of elastic, inelastic, and total cross sections in high-energy proton-proton collisions. It proposes that the observed universal patterns in these quantities and their ratios arise because the inelastic cross section increases rapidly with energy and greatly exceeds the elastic cross section. This dominance leads to specific predictions, including that the neutral pion to proton mass ratio and the minimum value of the elastic to total cross section ratio are given by the roots of the quadratic equation 9x squared plus 4 root 2 times x minus 1 equals zero. Readers might care if this indicates a simple phenomenological link between particle masses and scattering processes at high energies.

Core claim

The central claim is that the universal behavior of cross-section ratios in high-energy pp interactions follows from the rapid increase and dominance of the inelastic cross-section, which in turn determines the fundamental ratio m_π0 / m_p and the minimum of σ_el / σ_tot through the roots of the equation 9x² + 4√2 x - 1 = 0.

What carries the argument

The dominance of the rapidly increasing inelastic cross-section over the elastic one, which produces the quadratic equation 9x² + 4√2 x -1 =0 whose roots fix the key ratios.

If this is right

  • The minimum value of σ_el/σ_tot is set by one of the equation's roots.
  • The ratio m_π⁰/m_p equals another root of the same equation.
  • Cross-section ratios exhibit universal asymptotic behavior independent of specific interaction details.
  • Other related quantities in the scattering are similarly constrained by the equation.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This approach might extend to other high-energy hadron collisions if inelastic dominance holds generally.
  • It could provide a parameter-free way to relate masses and scattering without invoking full QCD calculations.
  • Experimental confirmation at future colliders could test whether the predicted minimum ratio is observed.
  • The quadratic might emerge from a more fundamental symmetry or geometric argument in scattering amplitudes.

Load-bearing premise

The universal behavior of the cross-section ratios is a direct consequence of the inelastic cross-section's rapid increase and dominance, generating the specific quadratic equation.

What would settle it

Precise measurements of the elastic to total cross-section ratio at energies significantly higher than currently available that deviate from the minimum value predicted by the positive root of 9x² + 4√2 x -1 =0 would falsify the claim.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2602.18061 by A.P. Samokhin.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Cross-sections for pp collisions as a function of total center-of-mass energy √ s. The experimental data for σtot(s) and σel(s) are from [21-23], lines represent a fit according to the form: σel,tot = C2x 2 + C1x + C0 + C4e −x , x = ln(√ s). Inelastic cross-section and ∆ are given by σinel = (σtot − σel) and ∆ = (σinel − σel) = (σtot − 2 σel) both for data and for fits. assume that σinel(s) ≃ ln1+ǫ ( √ s )… view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: The elastic to total cross-section ratio for [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Ratio of the real to imaginary part of the elastic [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

We give a phenomenological analysis of the behavior of inelastic, elastic and total cross-sections of the high energy $\textit{pp}$ interaction. In particular, we argue that the universal picture of behavior of cross-sections and their ratios is a consequence of the rapid increase of inelastic cross-section with energy and its large value compared to $\sigma_{\mathrm{el} }(s)$. We observed that the value of the fundamental ratio $(m_{\pi^{\mathrm{0}}}/m_{p}) $, the minimum value of the ratio $ (\sigma_{\mathrm{el}}/\sigma_{\mathrm{tot}})$, and some other quantities are determined by the roots of the equation $ (9\,x^{2}+4\,\sqrt{2}\,x-1)=0 $.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper presents a phenomenological analysis of the high-energy behavior of elastic, inelastic, and total cross-sections in pp scattering. It argues that the universal patterns observed in the cross-sections and their ratios follow from the rapid growth and dominance of the inelastic cross-section over the elastic one. The central claim is that the pion-to-proton mass ratio m_π⁰/m_p, the minimum value of σ_el/σ_tot, and related quantities are fixed by the roots of the quadratic equation 9x² + 4√2 x - 1 = 0.

Significance. A rigorous derivation connecting inelastic dominance to the specific quadratic would constitute a parameter-free link between a fundamental mass ratio and asymptotic scattering observables, strengthening the case for universality in high-energy hadron physics. The phenomenological identification of common trends across data sets is a positive contribution, but the absence of an explicit mapping from unitarity, the optical theorem, or Regge asymptotics to the equation coefficients currently limits the result to an observation rather than a prediction.

major comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the claim that m_π⁰/m_p and the minimum of σ_el/σ_tot are determined by the roots of (9x² + 4√2 x - 1) = 0 is presented without derivation. No steps are shown that start from σ_inel(s) ≫ σ_el(s) and arrive at the numerical coefficients 9, 4√2, and -1, whether via unitarity bounds, assumed asymptotic forms, or the optical theorem.
minor comments (1)
  1. The manuscript should include explicit numerical comparison of the positive root of the quadratic with the experimental value of m_π⁰/m_p and with the observed minimum of σ_el/σ_tot, preferably in a dedicated table or figure.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the careful reading and constructive comments. Our analysis is phenomenological, and we address the point raised below, agreeing that the abstract requires clarification on the origin of the quadratic.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the claim that m_π⁰/m_p and the minimum of σ_el/σ_tot are determined by the roots of (9x² + 4√2 x - 1) = 0 is presented without derivation. No steps are shown that start from σ_inel(s) ≫ σ_el(s) and arrive at the numerical coefficients 9, 4√2, and -1, whether via unitarity bounds, assumed asymptotic forms, or the optical theorem.

    Authors: We agree the abstract states the result without showing intermediate steps. The quadratic arises phenomenologically: under the assumption of inelastic dominance (σ_inel(s) ≫ σ_el(s) and σ_inel/σ_tot → 1 at high s), we fit the observed minimum of σ_el/σ_tot and its numerical link to the mass ratio m_π⁰/m_p using high-energy data trends. The coefficients 9, 4√2 and -1 are obtained by solving the resulting algebraic system for the ratio x that simultaneously satisfies the minimum elastic fraction and the mass-scale relation extracted from the data. This is an empirical observation rather than a first-principles derivation from unitarity, the optical theorem or Regge asymptotics. We will revise the abstract to state explicitly that the connection is phenomenological and add a short paragraph in the main text outlining the fitting procedure that yields the quadratic. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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Quadratic equation asserted without derivation from inelastic dominance; mass ratio match is observational

specific steps
  1. fitted input called prediction [Abstract]
    "We observed that the value of the fundamental ratio (m_π⁰/m_p), the minimum value of the ratio (σ_el/σ_tot), and some other quantities are determined by the roots of the equation (9 x² + 4 √2 x -1)=0."

    The paper claims the quantities are determined by the roots but gives no derivation showing how inelastic dominance generates this exact quadratic. The coefficients appear chosen to match the observed m_π⁰/m_p, so the 'determination' is a post-hoc fit rather than an independent consequence of the stated assumptions.

full rationale

The paper states that the rapid increase and dominance of σ_inel produces a universal picture whose quantities (including m_π⁰/m_p) are fixed by the roots of (9x² + 4√2 x -1)=0, yet supplies no explicit mapping from unitarity, optical theorem, or any assumed σ_inel(s) form to the specific coefficients 9, 4√2 and -1. The equation is introduced via 'we observed that', indicating it was selected to reproduce the known mass ratio rather than derived. This reduces the central claim to a fitted relation presented as a prediction.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on an unspecified phenomenological model that produces the quadratic equation from the assumed dominance of the inelastic cross-section; no free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are explicitly listed in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Rapid increase of inelastic cross-section with energy and its dominance over elastic cross-section produces universal ratios
    Invoked in the abstract as the cause of the observed universality.

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