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· Lean TheoremDuality for Delsarte's extremal problem on locally compact Abelian groups
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The pith
The Delsarte extremal problem admits strong duality on locally compact Abelian groups
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
On a locally compact Abelian group, the supremum of the generalized Delsarte extremal problem equals the infimum of the dual problem obtained through functional analysis, yielding strong duality.
What carries the argument
The dual extremal problem formulated via measures or continuous functions that pair with positive definite functions to enforce equality of values
If this is right
- Duality theorems previously known only for finite groups and real Euclidean space follow directly as special cases.
- Upper bounds for the size of codes, sphere packings, and 1-avoiding sets become available on any locally compact Abelian group.
- Existence questions for extremizers can now be approached uniformly through the dual formulation.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Numerical methods solving the dual side could compute explicit bounds for groups where direct extremal search is difficult.
- The same functional-analytic duality technique might apply to related extremal problems outside the Delsarte setting.
- Direct verification on concrete infinite groups such as the p-adics or the integers would test whether the generality is sharp.
Load-bearing premise
The normalization of the functions and the objective functional can be extended to locally compact Abelian groups while preserving the structure of the extremal problem.
What would settle it
A concrete calculation on a specific group such as the integers where the primal supremum differs from the dual infimum would show the claimed strong duality does not hold.
read the original abstract
The Delsarte extremal problem for positive definite functions, originally introduced by Delsarte in coding theory to bound the size of error-correcting codes, has since found applications in diverse areas such as sphere packing, Fuglede's spectral set conjecture, and $1$-avoiding sets. Recent developments have established the existence of extremizers in fairly general settings and identified precise linear programming dual formulations, together with strong duality results, in several important cases including finite groups and $\mathbb{R}^d$. In this paper, we consider a generalized Delsarte problem on locally compact Abelian groups, providing a natural framework for harmonic analysis. We extend both the normalization and the objective functional to encompass a wide range of previously studied cases, while avoiding restrictive topological assumptions common in the literature. Within this general setting, we derive the corresponding dual problem and prove a strong duality theorem, thereby unifying and extending earlier results. Naturally, our proof uses harmonic analysis, but the key is a functional analytic approach which distinguishes our proof from existing methods.
Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper generalizes Delsarte's extremal problem for positive definite functions to locally compact Abelian groups. It extends the normalization and the objective functional to encompass a wide range of previously studied cases while avoiding common restrictive topological assumptions, derives the corresponding dual problem, and proves a strong duality theorem via a functional-analytic approach that relies on harmonic analysis but is distinguished from prior methods. This unifies and extends existing results for finite groups and R^d, with applications to coding theory, sphere packing, Fuglede's conjecture, and 1-avoiding sets.
Significance. If the strong duality holds under the stated generalizations, the result supplies a unified functional-analytic framework for extremal problems on LCA groups. The parameter-free derivation of the dual and the strong duality theorem are explicit strengths that could streamline applications across harmonic analysis and discrete geometry. The avoidance of restrictive topological assumptions broadens the scope beyond earlier treatments.
minor comments (2)
- [Abstract] Abstract, paragraph 3: the phrase 'extend both the normalization and the objective functional' is stated without a brief indication of the precise extensions; adding one sentence would clarify the scope for readers unfamiliar with the prior literature.
- [§2 or §3] The manuscript would benefit from an explicit statement (perhaps in §2 or §3) of the precise constraint qualification used to obtain strong duality, even if it follows from standard results in the functional-analytic setting.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive and accurate summary of our manuscript, which correctly identifies the main contribution: a unified strong duality result for the generalized Delsarte extremal problem on locally compact Abelian groups. The referee's assessment of significance aligns with our goals of extending prior results for finite groups and R^d while avoiding restrictive assumptions. As the report contains no specific major comments, we have no points requiring rebuttal. We will address any minor editorial or typographical issues in the revised version.
Circularity Check
Derivation self-contained via new functional-analytic proof
full rationale
The paper derives the dual formulation and establishes strong duality for a generalized Delsarte extremal problem on locally compact Abelian groups by extending normalization and the objective functional in a functional-analytic framework. This approach is explicitly distinguished from prior harmonic-analysis methods and does not reduce any load-bearing step to a self-definition, fitted parameter renamed as prediction, or unverified self-citation chain. The unification of earlier results is achieved through the new proof rather than by construction from inputs, leaving the central claim independent and non-circular.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- standard math Standard properties of positive definite functions, their Fourier transforms, and duality on locally compact Abelian groups
Lean theorems connected to this paper
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IndisputableMonolith/Cost/FunctionalEquation.leanwashburn_uniqueness_aczel unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
We follow the paper [24] by Gaál and Révész, where, based on a lesser known version of the dual cone intersection formula, due to Jeyakumar and Wolkowicz [32], we devised a functional-analytic method to deal with inequalities for positive definite functions.
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IndisputableMonolith/Foundation/AlexanderDuality.leanalexander_duality_circle_linking unclear?
unclearRelation between the paper passage and the cited Recognition theorem.
Theorem 4.1. With the previous notation we have P−Q=X.
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- matches
- The paper's claim is directly supported by a theorem in the formal canon.
- supports
- The theorem supports part of the paper's argument, but the paper may add assumptions or extra steps.
- extends
- The paper goes beyond the formal theorem; the theorem is a base layer rather than the whole result.
- uses
- The paper appears to rely on the theorem as machinery.
- contradicts
- The paper's claim conflicts with a theorem or certificate in the canon.
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- Pith found a possible connection, but the passage is too broad, indirect, or ambiguous to say the theorem truly supports the claim.
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