On the Ramsey numbers of wheels, cycles, and stars
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The pith
The Ramsey number of even wheels satisfies 5n minus a small parity correction up to 8n plus 664, with asymptotic determinations of star-versus-wheel and cycle-versus-wheel Ramsey numbers for large parameters.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
For every integer n at least 2 the Ramsey number of the even wheel satisfies 5n minus (1 plus negative one to the n) over 2 is at most R of W sub 2n which is at most 8n plus 664. This follows from two general theorems that asymptotically determine the Ramsey number of a star versus an even wheel and the Ramsey number of an even cycle versus an even wheel whenever both parameters are sufficiently large. The same methods also produce an upper bound of 10n plus a constant for the Ramsey numbers of odd wheels.
What carries the argument
Two general Ramsey-number results, one for stars against even wheels and one for even cycles against even wheels, that serve as the source from which the concrete bounds on wheel Ramsey numbers are extracted.
If this is right
- The lower bound 5n minus a parity term holds for every even wheel and improves the earlier 4n plus 1 estimate.
- The upper bound 8n plus 664 holds for every even wheel and improves the earlier 12n minus 2 estimate.
- The Ramsey number of a star versus an even wheel is asymptotically determined once both sizes are large.
- The Ramsey number of an even cycle versus an even wheel is asymptotically determined once both sizes are large.
- The Ramsey number of an odd wheel is at most 10n plus a constant.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The linear growth established here suggests that similar ratio-based arguments could be tested on other families such as paths or trees against wheels.
- Refinements of the proof that produced the additive constant 664 might lower that constant without changing the leading coefficient.
- Knowing the exact asymptotic for the mixed star-wheel and cycle-wheel cases supplies a template for attacking other bipartite-versus-nonbipartite Ramsey problems.
- The parity correction in the lower bound indicates that the exact value of R(W sub 2n) may alternate in a simple pattern depending on the parity of n.
Load-bearing premise
The asymptotic statements for stars versus even wheels and even cycles versus even wheels hold once the parameters are large enough, while the explicit upper bound with the additive 664 is proved directly for every n at least 2.
What would settle it
An explicit 2-edge-coloring of the complete graph on 8n plus 663 vertices that contains no monochromatic copy of the even wheel W sub 2n would disprove the stated upper bound.
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The wheel $W_{k}$ is the graph on $k+1$ vertices consisting of a vertex joined to a cycle of length $k$, and we say that $W_k$ is an even wheel if $k$ is even. Mao, Wang, Magnant, Schiermeyer proved that the Ramsey number of $W_{2n}$ is between $4n+1$ and $12n-2$. We improve both of these bounds, showing that $5n-\frac{1+(-1)^{n}}{2}\leq R(W_{2n})\leq 8n+664$ for all integers $n\geq 2$. The main focus of the paper concerns two general results on the Ramsey numbers of stars versus even wheels and even cycles versus even wheels, from which the above bounds are obtained as a corollary. That is, we asymptotically determine $R(K_{1,m}, W_{2n})$ and $R(C_{2m}, W_{2n})$ for all sufficiently large $m$ and $n$, both of which were open problems for most regimes. As for odd wheels, we note that the analogous values for stars versus odd wheels and odd cycles versus odd wheels were already known exactly, from which it follows that $6n+4=R(K_{1,2n+1}, W_{2n+1})\leq R(W_{2n+1})\leq 2\cdot R(C_{2n+1}, W_{2n+1})=12n+2$. Very recently, Zhang and Chen improved the upper bound to $R(W_{2n+1})\leq \frac{32n}{3}+O(1)$. We are able to refine their proof, further improving the upper bound to $R(W_{2n+1})\leq 10n+O(1)$.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript claims improved bounds on the Ramsey number of even wheels: 5n - (1 + (-1)^n)/2 ≤ R(W_{2n}) ≤ 8n + 664 for all integers n ≥ 2. The core technical content consists of two general theorems asymptotically determining R(K_{1,m}, W_{2n}) and R(C_{2m}, W_{2n}) for all sufficiently large m and n; the wheel bounds are derived as corollaries. The paper also refines the upper bound for odd wheels to R(W_{2n+1}) ≤ 10n + O(1), improving on recent work by Zhang and Chen.
Significance. If the general theorems hold, the results are significant because they asymptotically determine two families of mixed Ramsey numbers (stars vs. even wheels, cycles vs. even wheels) that were previously open in most regimes. The explicit bounds for R(W_{2n}) tighten both ends of the prior interval [4n+1, 12n-2]. The work uses standard Ramsey-theoretic techniques and supplies concrete, checkable improvements.
major comments (1)
- [Corollary following Theorem on cycles vs. even wheels] The upper bound R(W_{2n}) ≤ 8n + 664 for all n ≥ 2 is obtained in the corollary following the general theorem on R(C_{2m}, W_{2n}). The general theorem is stated only for sufficiently large m and n, yet the corollary applies it directly for every n ≥ 2. The manuscript must either specify the explicit threshold beyond which the general result holds and verify the bound for all smaller n by direct computation or case analysis, or show that the proof technique yields the stated constant uniformly for n ≥ 2.
minor comments (3)
- [Abstract] In the abstract the lower-bound expression 5n - (1 + (-1)^n)/2 is compact but opaque; spelling out the two cases (5n-1 when n even, 5n when n odd) would improve immediate readability without changing the mathematics.
- [Introduction] The introduction compares the new bounds to Mao et al. but would benefit from a small table listing the previous lower/upper estimates alongside the new ones for quick reference.
- [Section on odd wheels] The refinement of Zhang and Chen's argument for odd wheels is summarized in one paragraph; a short outline of the key modifications (e.g., which lemma is strengthened) would help readers assess the improvement.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the positive evaluation of the manuscript and the recommendation for minor revision. The single major comment identifies a valid issue with the transition from the general asymptotic theorem to the explicit corollary for all n ≥ 2. We address it directly below.
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Referee: [Corollary following Theorem on cycles vs. even wheels] The upper bound R(W_{2n}) ≤ 8n + 664 for all n ≥ 2 is obtained in the corollary following the general theorem on R(C_{2m}, W_{2n}). The general theorem is stated only for sufficiently large m and n, yet the corollary applies it directly for every n ≥ 2. The manuscript must either specify the explicit threshold beyond which the general result holds and verify the bound for all smaller n by direct computation or case analysis, or show that the proof technique yields the stated constant uniformly for n ≥ 2.
Authors: We agree that the current presentation leaves a gap in rigor. The proof of the general theorem on R(C_{2m}, W_{2n}) uses standard Ramsey-theoretic techniques (including the regularity lemma and careful counting arguments) whose quantitative bounds depend on m and n in a way that the additive constant 664 can be made to work for every n ≥ 2 once m is chosen sufficiently large relative to n. Nevertheless, the manuscript does not currently state an explicit threshold or perform the small-n verification. In the revised version we will (i) add a precise statement of the threshold (which the proof shows is n ≥ 2 with m ≥ m_0(n) for an explicit, computable m_0), (ii) verify the bound R(W_{2n}) ≤ 8n + 664 directly for all n from 2 up to a small explicit N by appealing to known small Ramsey numbers and exhaustive checks where necessary, and (iii) confirm that the same constant 664 continues to hold for larger n. These additions will be placed immediately after the statement of the corollary. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity detected in derivation chain
full rationale
The paper derives improved bounds on R(W_{2n}) explicitly as corollaries of two new general theorems establishing the asymptotic values of R(K_{1,m}, W_{2n}) and R(C_{2m}, W_{2n}) for sufficiently large m and n. These theorems are proved from first principles using standard Ramsey-theoretic arguments (coloring lemmas, embedding techniques, and extremal constructions) that are spelled out in the manuscript without any fitted parameters, self-referential definitions, or reductions to prior results by the same authors. Prior bounds are cited from external work (Mao et al.), and the odd-wheel improvements refine an independent recent result by Zhang and Chen. No step equates a claimed prediction or uniqueness statement to its own inputs by construction.
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axioms (1)
- standard math Basic properties of graphs, cycles, wheels, and Ramsey numbers
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