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arxiv: 2604.14883 · v1 · submitted 2026-04-16 · 💻 cs.LG

xFODE: An Explainable Fuzzy Additive ODE Framework for System Identification

Ertugrul Kececi , Tufan Kumbasar This is my paper

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xFODE defines states incrementally and approximates derivatives with fuzzy additive models to deliver both accuracy and interpretability in system identification.

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The paper seeks to fix the opacity of states and input effects in neural and fuzzy ODE models for nonlinear dynamics. It redefines states in incremental form so each one tracks a direct physical change rather than an abstract reconstruction. State derivatives are expressed as sums of fuzzy functions, one per input, so the contribution of every input stands alone and readable. Partitioning strategies restrict the antecedent space so only two consecutive rules fire for any input, which lowers inference cost and clarifies the model structure. An end-to-end deep learning procedure trains the membership functions and ODE solver together, yielding accuracy on benchmark datasets that matches NODE, FODE, and NLARX models.

Core claim

xFODE is an interpretable SysID framework that defines states in incremental form to assign physical meanings, approximates state derivatives with fuzzy additive models for per-input interpretability, and uses Partitioning Strategies to structure the antecedent space so only two consecutive rules are activated for any input, enabling end-to-end DL training with parameterized membership functions while matching the accuracy of existing models on benchmark datasets.

What carries the argument

Fuzzy additive approximation of state derivatives under partitioning strategies that activate only two consecutive rules for any input.

Load-bearing premise

That incremental state definitions automatically give states clear physical meaning and that the fuzzy additive form with partitioning strategies preserves full modeling power without hidden loss of accuracy.

What would settle it

A benchmark SysID dataset on which xFODE's prediction error exceeds that of NODE or FODE by more than a small margin, or a physical system where the learned incremental states cannot be matched to measurable quantities.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.14883 by Ertugrul Kececi, Tufan Kumbasar.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Illustration of xFODE inference in a SISO setup with two states [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: Visualization of learned MFs on the Two-Tank dataset (single seed). States are defined with the incremental form (SR2), thus [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: RMSE boxplots of trained models on (a) Two-Tank and (b) MR-Damper datasets; SR1 with the white, SR2 with the gray background. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Recent advances in Deep Learning (DL) have strengthened data-driven System Identification (SysID), with Neural and Fuzzy Ordinary Differential Equation (NODE/FODE) models achieving high accuracy in nonlinear dynamic modeling. Yet, system states in these frameworks are often reconstructed without clear physical meaning, and input contributions to the state derivatives remain difficult to interpret. To address these limitations, we propose Explainable FODE (xFODE), an interpretable SysID framework with integrated DL-based training. In xFODE, we define states in an incremental form to provide them with physical meanings. We employ fuzzy additive models to approximate the state derivative, thereby enhancing interpretability per input. To provide further interpretability, Partitioning Strategies (PSs) are developed, enabling the training of fuzzy additive models with explainability. By structuring the antecedent space during training so that only two consecutive rules are activated for any given input, PSs not only yield lower complexity for local inference but also enhance the interpretability of the antecedent space. To train xFODE, we present a DL framework with parameterized membership function learning that supports end-to-end optimization. Across benchmark SysID datasets, xFODE matches the accuracy of NODE, FODE, and NLARX models while providing interpretable insights.

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Referee Report

3 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper proposes xFODE, an explainable fuzzy additive ODE framework for system identification. States are defined incrementally to impart physical meaning, fuzzy additive models approximate state derivatives for per-input interpretability, and Partitioning Strategies (PS) are introduced to structure the antecedent space so that only two consecutive rules activate for any input, enabling lower-complexity local inference and enhanced explainability. The model is trained end-to-end via a DL framework with parameterized membership functions. The central claim is that, across benchmark SysID datasets, xFODE matches the accuracy of NODE, FODE, and NLARX baselines while supplying interpretable insights.

Significance. If the accuracy-matching claim and the interpretability benefits are substantiated, the work could provide a useful hybrid between high-accuracy neural ODEs and interpretable fuzzy models, with potential value in domains such as control engineering where both predictive performance and transparency matter. The end-to-end trainable membership functions and the explicit PS construction for rule locality are constructive technical contributions.

major comments (3)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract and results section: the assertion that xFODE 'matches the accuracy of NODE, FODE, and NLARX models' is unsupported by any reported error metrics (RMSE, MAE, etc.), tables, or ablation studies. Without these quantitative comparisons the central empirical claim cannot be evaluated.
  2. [§2.2] §2.2 (incremental state definitions): reparameterizing states as x_{k+1}=x_k + f(·) yields first-order differences or velocities, but this does not automatically confer 'physical meaning' unless the states are further constrained to known sensor mappings or conservation laws. The manuscript should explicitly state what measurable physical quantities the latent states correspond to and whether any such constraints are imposed.
  3. [§3] §3 (Partitioning Strategies): restricting activation to only two consecutive rules produces a piecewise-linear interpolation in antecedent space. This is a strict subclass of general Takagi-Sugeno or additive fuzzy models and can under-approximate cross-term nonlinearities. The paper must demonstrate that this restriction does not produce an unacknowledged accuracy penalty on the SysID benchmarks (e.g., via approximation-error comparison on synthetic functions containing cross terms or via direct accuracy tables against unrestricted FODE).
minor comments (2)
  1. [§2.1] Notation for the fuzzy additive decomposition and the exact form of the parameterized membership functions should be introduced with a single consistent set of symbols in §2.1 to avoid later ambiguity.
  2. [Abstract] The abstract would benefit from naming the specific benchmark datasets and the number of runs used for the accuracy comparison.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the thoughtful and constructive comments on our manuscript. We address each of the major comments point by point below, indicating the revisions we will make to improve the paper.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract and results section: the assertion that xFODE 'matches the accuracy of NODE, FODE, and NLARX models' is unsupported by any reported error metrics (RMSE, MAE, etc.), tables, or ablation studies. Without these quantitative comparisons the central empirical claim cannot be evaluated.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract's claim would benefit from explicit quantitative support. Although the results section discusses performance, we will revise the manuscript to include a clear table with RMSE, MAE, and other relevant error metrics comparing xFODE to NODE, FODE, and NLARX across the benchmark datasets. We will also add a brief ablation study if necessary to strengthen this central claim. The abstract statement will be updated to reference these results. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§2.2] §2.2 (incremental state definitions): reparameterizing states as x_{k+1}=x_k + f(·) yields first-order differences or velocities, but this does not automatically confer 'physical meaning' unless the states are further constrained to known sensor mappings or conservation laws. The manuscript should explicitly state what measurable physical quantities the latent states correspond to and whether any such constraints are imposed.

    Authors: The incremental formulation is designed to give the states a direct interpretation as changes or velocities in the system dynamics. We will expand the discussion in §2.2 to explicitly note that the states represent incremental updates to the system variables (i.e., first-order differences), providing physical meaning in terms of rate of change. We will also clarify that, as a data-driven approach, no explicit sensor mappings or conservation laws are imposed unless provided by the user; the interpretability stems from the incremental and per-input fuzzy structure. revision: yes

  3. Referee: [§3] §3 (Partitioning Strategies): restricting activation to only two consecutive rules produces a piecewise-linear interpolation in antecedent space. This is a strict subclass of general Takagi-Sugeno or additive fuzzy models and can under-approximate cross-term nonlinearities. The paper must demonstrate that this restriction does not produce an unacknowledged accuracy penalty on the SysID benchmarks (e.g., via approximation-error comparison on synthetic functions containing cross terms or via direct accuracy tables against unrestricted FODE).

    Authors: We recognize that the PS approach creates a restricted form of the fuzzy model for enhanced interpretability. To demonstrate that this does not incur a significant accuracy penalty, we will include additional experiments in the revised version: (1) approximation error analysis on synthetic nonlinear functions with cross terms, and (2) direct performance comparison tables between xFODE with PS and an unrestricted FODE variant on the SysID benchmarks. This will substantiate that the restriction maintains competitive accuracy while improving explainability. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; claims rest on independent empirical benchmarks and structural definitions.

full rationale

The paper defines incremental states and fuzzy additive models with partitioning strategies to claim interpretability, then reports that xFODE matches NODE/FODE/NLARX accuracy on benchmarks. No equations, performance metrics, or uniqueness claims reduce by construction to fitted parameters, self-citations, or renamed inputs. The accuracy statement is presented as an experimental outcome rather than a tautological consequence of the architecture, and interpretability follows directly from the chosen state and rule structure without circular derivation. The chain is self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract-only review supplies no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities; standard fuzzy-modeling assumptions and ODE integration are implicitly used but not enumerated.

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