arxiv: 2604.26342 · v1 · submitted 2026-04-29 · 💻 cs.CV

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Which Face and Whose Identity? Solving the Dual Challenge of Deepfake Proactive Forensics in Multi-Face Scenarios

Lei Zhang , Zhiqing Guo , Dan Ma , Gaobo Yang

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keywords deepfake localizationproactive forensicsmulti-face imageswatermark embeddingidentity tracingencoder-decoder networkregional supervision lossface forgery detection

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The pith

A watermarking framework locates tampered faces and traces their original identities in multi-person images.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper tackles deepfake detection in realistic group photos and meetings where multiple faces appear together. Existing proactive methods assume isolated single faces and require heavy offline steps, leaving multi-face cases vulnerable. The proposed Deep Attributable Watermarking Framework embeds identity information during processing with a multi-face encoder-decoder and applies a selective loss that directs attention only to altered regions. This combination answers both which face was changed and whose identity was copied. If it works, proactive watermarking becomes practical for everyday multi-person scenes instead of remaining limited to controlled single-face tests.

Core claim

The Deep Attributable Watermarking Framework adopts a multi-face encoder-decoder architecture for parallel watermark embedding and cross-face processing. A selective regional supervision loss guides the decoder to concentrate exclusively on facial regions altered by deepfakes. Together with the embedded identity payloads, the system delivers simultaneous localization of forged areas and tracing of source identities, fulfilling the dual goal of identifying both the affected face and its original owner in complex multi-person images.

What carries the argument

The selective regional supervision loss that steers the decoder to process only the tampered facial regions amid multiple faces and background.

If this is right

The architecture removes the need for separate offline preprocessing steps before watermark embedding.
Parallel processing across faces in one image becomes feasible without sequential handling.
Both spatial localization of forgeries and identity source tracing occur in a single forward pass.
Performance holds on challenging multi-face datasets that include group interactions and meetings.
The dual 'which face plus whose identity' output directly supports forensic reporting in complex scenes.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

The same selective-loss principle could be tested on video clips where faces move between frames.
Integration with camera pipelines might allow automatic protection of group photos at capture time.
Robustness checks under social-media compression and resizing would clarify real-world deployment limits.
Extending the identity payload to include additional attributes like age or expression could broaden forensic utility.

Load-bearing premise

The selective regional supervision loss can direct the decoder to tampered facial regions alone without distraction from other faces or background content.

What would settle it

A test set of multi-face images where the localization accuracy falls below single-face baselines when two faces share similar lighting or pose would show the selective loss fails to isolate targets reliably.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.26342 by Dan Ma, Gaobo Yang, Lei Zhang, Zhiqing Guo.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: Comparison of different deepfake countermeasures. Although existing proactive forensic methods have achieved view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Analysis of detected face resolutions. Left: His view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Overall architecture of DAWF. (a) Training phase: The MFEncoder combines a face detector and a steganography view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: Localization results and visual quality under var view at source ↗

**Figure 6.** Figure 6: Localization precision comparisons of our DAWF and other competitive methods on the WIDERFace. view at source ↗

**Figure 7.** Figure 7: Comparison of the detector’s BER under various view at source ↗

**Figure 8.** Figure 8: Localization precision comparisons of our DAWF view at source ↗

read the original abstract

Unlike single-face forgeries, deepfakes in complex multi-person interaction scenarios (such as group photos and multi-person meetings) more closely reflect real-world threats. Although existing proactive forensics solutions demonstrate good performance, they heavily rely on a "single-face" setting, making it difficult to effectively address the problems of deepfake localization and source tracing in complex multi-person environments. To address this challenge, we propose the Deep Attributable Watermarking Framework (DAWF). This framework adopts a novel multi-face encoder-decoder architecture that bypasses the cumbersome offline pre-processing steps of traditional forensics, facilitating efficient in-network parallel watermark embedding and cross-face collaborative processing. Crucially, we propose a selective regional supervision loss. This innovative mechanism guides the decoder to focus exclusively on the facial regions tampered with by deepfakes. Leveraging this mechanism alongside the embedded identity payloads, DAWF realizes the "which + who" goal, answering the dual questions of which facial region was forged and who was forged. Extensive experiments on challenging multi-face datasets show that DAWF achieves excellent deepfake localization and traceability in complex multi-person scenes.

Editorial analysis

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Desk Editor's Note private letter to a colleague

DAWF adds a multi-face encoder-decoder and selective loss to proactive watermarking, but the loss may still let gradients from clean faces leak into localization.

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The paper's main move is to take proactive deepfake watermarking out of the single-face setting and into group photos and meetings. It does this with a shared encoder-decoder that embeds identity payloads across multiple faces in one pass and a selective regional supervision loss that is supposed to make the decoder ignore everything except the tampered regions. That combination is new relative to the single-face baselines the abstract cites, and it directly targets the dual question of which face was changed and whose identity was used. The architecture avoids offline preprocessing, which is a practical plus for in-network use. The framing of the problem is clear and the motivation matches real deployment conditions. The soft spot is the selective loss itself. If it relies mainly on per-face masking without an extra term to block or orthogonalize gradients from untouched faces, the shared decoder weights can still be pulled by clean regions, which would weaken the localization claim. The abstract says the loss guides the decoder exclusively to tampered areas, but without the formulation or an ablation on cross-face interference, that exclusivity is not yet demonstrated. The reported experiments are described as extensive on multi-face datasets, yet no numbers, baselines, or failure cases appear in the summary, so the performance edge is hard to judge from what is shown. This work is aimed at forensics and media-security researchers who already know the single-face literature and want to see how the methods scale. It is coherent enough on its own terms to merit a serious referee, mainly to check the loss details and the quantitative results. I would send it out for review rather than desk reject.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript proposes the Deep Attributable Watermarking Framework (DAWF), a multi-face encoder-decoder architecture for proactive deepfake forensics. It enables parallel watermark embedding across faces and introduces a selective regional supervision loss to localize tampered regions while using embedded identity payloads for source tracing, addressing the dual 'which + who' challenge in multi-person images.

Significance. If the central claims hold, the work would fill a practical gap in deepfake forensics by moving beyond single-face assumptions to handle realistic multi-person scenarios such as group photos, with an in-network approach that avoids offline preprocessing. The combination of localization and traceability via watermarking represents a targeted advance over existing proactive methods.

major comments (2)

[§3 (method)] The selective regional supervision loss is presented as the key mechanism that 'guides the decoder to focus exclusively on the facial regions tampered with by deepfakes' (abstract and §3), yet no equation, masking formulation, gradient-blocking rule, or cross-face orthogonality term is supplied. Without these, it is impossible to verify that gradients from non-tampered faces do not leak into the shared decoder weights, directly undermining the 'exclusively' claim required for reliable 'which' localization.
[Experiments / Results] The abstract asserts 'excellent deepfake localization and traceability' on challenging multi-face datasets, but the manuscript supplies neither quantitative metrics, baseline comparisons, ablation studies on the supervision loss, nor error analysis of multi-face interference. These omissions make the empirical support for the dual-challenge solution impossible to evaluate.

minor comments (2)

[§3] Notation for the identity payload embedding and the multi-face encoder-decoder forward pass is introduced without a clear diagram or pseudocode, making the parallel processing claim difficult to follow.
[Introduction] The manuscript would benefit from an explicit statement of the threat model (e.g., whether the adversary knows the watermarking scheme) and how the framework remains robust under it.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive and detailed feedback on our manuscript. We address each major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to improve clarity and empirical support.

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Referee: [§3 (method)] The selective regional supervision loss is presented as the key mechanism that 'guides the decoder to focus exclusively on the facial regions tampered with by deepfakes' (abstract and §3), yet no equation, masking formulation, gradient-blocking rule, or cross-face orthogonality term is supplied. Without these, it is impossible to verify that gradients from non-tampered faces do not leak into the shared decoder weights, directly undermining the 'exclusively' claim required for reliable 'which' localization.

Authors: We acknowledge that the submitted manuscript does not provide the explicit mathematical formulation, masking details, gradient-blocking rules, or orthogonality terms for the selective regional supervision loss. This limits independent verification of the exclusivity claim. In the revision we will add the complete loss equation, the precise masking formulation used to isolate tampered facial regions, the gradient-blocking mechanism that prevents leakage from non-tampered faces into shared decoder weights, and any cross-face orthogonality term employed. revision: yes
Referee: [Experiments / Results] The abstract asserts 'excellent deepfake localization and traceability' on challenging multi-face datasets, but the manuscript supplies neither quantitative metrics, baseline comparisons, ablation studies on the supervision loss, nor error analysis of multi-face interference. These omissions make the empirical support for the dual-challenge solution impossible to evaluate.

Authors: The referee correctly notes that the current version lacks the required quantitative metrics, baseline comparisons, ablation studies, and multi-face error analysis. We will expand the experimental section to report concrete localization and traceability metrics, include relevant baseline comparisons, present ablation results isolating the selective regional supervision loss, and add an error analysis addressing potential interference across multiple faces. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity detected; new architecture and loss are externally validated

full rationale

The paper introduces DAWF as a novel multi-face encoder-decoder with a selective regional supervision loss to achieve 'which + who' forensics. No equations, derivations, or parameter fits are shown that reduce by construction to inputs, fitted subsets, or self-citations. The central claims rest on the proposed architecture and loss mechanism, justified by experiments on external multi-face datasets rather than internal redefinitions or load-bearing prior work by the authors. This is a standard engineering proposal with independent empirical support.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The central claim depends on the unverified effectiveness of the multi-face parallel processing and selective regional supervision loss; no free parameters, axioms, or external benchmarks are specified in the available text.

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Deep Attributable Watermarking Framework (DAWF) no independent evidence
purpose: Multi-face encoder-decoder for embedding identity payloads and localizing deepfakes
New system proposed to solve the dual challenge; no independent evidence provided beyond abstract claims.

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