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arxiv: 2605.14659 · v1 · pith:77KEEUB7new · submitted 2026-05-14 · 💻 cs.LG

Slower Generalization, Faster Memorization: A Sweet Spot in Algorithmic Learning

Shin So , Kyelim Lee , Albert No This is my paper

Pith reviewed 2026-06-30 21:23 UTC · model grok-4.3

classification 💻 cs.LG
keywords grokkinggeneralizationmemorizationdataset sizetransformersalgorithmic learningstructured outputNeedleman-Wunsch
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The pith

Small transformers reach high validation accuracy fastest at an intermediate dataset size, not the largest one.

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Critical-data-size accounts of grokking predict that once training data suffices to identify an underlying rule, additional data should accelerate validation convergence. This paper tests the prediction in a controlled structured-output task using small transformers on Needleman-Wunsch matrix generation. It finds that high validation exact-match accuracy arrives with the fewest gradient updates at an intermediate dataset size. Past this point generalization remains possible but requires more updates, while larger data can accelerate high training accuracy once partial validation competence emerges. A multiplication baseline lacks the same post-threshold slowdown for generalization.

Core claim

In Needleman-Wunsch matrix generation, small Transformers reach high validation exact-match accuracy fastest at an intermediate dataset size. Beyond this sweet spot, generalization stays achievable but demands more gradient updates. In the regime where partial validation competence first appears, larger datasets instead require fewer updates to reach high training accuracy. The same post-threshold slowdown for generalization does not occur on a multiplication baseline. These observations separate the critical data size for generalization onset from the dataset size that optimizes update-based convergence and show that learning the rule and completing exact fitting can diverge in structured-o

What carries the argument

The dataset-size sweet spot for update-efficient generalization in structured-output algorithmic tasks, where validation exact-match accuracy minimizes at intermediate rather than maximal data volume.

Load-bearing premise

The Needleman-Wunsch matrix generation task and chosen transformer scale form a representative controlled setting in which post-threshold effects from critical data size should hold without confounding factors.

What would settle it

Finding that validation exact-match accuracy in the Needleman-Wunsch task converges in progressively fewer updates as dataset size grows past the reported intermediate point would falsify the claimed sweet spot.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.14659 by Albert No, Kyelim Lee, Shin So.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: Dataset-size sweeps for multiplication and NW matrix generation. Each curve reports the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: NW multi-threshold sweeps across depths [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: Random-suffix probe. Each NW target is augmented with a four-bit random suffix. We [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Train–random gap diagnostic. Orange curves show NW validation accuracy [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Task-scope controls at τ = 0.98. NW, but not addition or multiplication, shows an interior validation optimum [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Seed variability for the L = 5 NW multi-threshold sweeps. Curves show the same depth sweep as [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_6.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Epoch-normalized convergence for the L = 5 NW depth sweep. The same threshold crossings are measured in epochs rather than optimizer updates. Epoch normalization emphasizes data exposure and recovers the more conventional view in which larger datasets require fewer passes over the data. This confirms that the sweet spot in the main text is specifically an update-based convergence phenomenon. D Robustness A… view at source ↗
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Seed variability for the L = 4 NW sweeps. Shaded regions denote one standard deviation across random seeds. Exact threshold-crossing times vary, but the intermediate-data regime again shows overlap between weak validation competence and faster training-threshold crossings. 100 300 1k 3k 10k 100 300 1k 3k 10k 30k Epochs Depth 3 Accuracy Threshold =0.1 =0.2 =0.3 =0.5 =0.9 =0.98 Val (IV) Train (IT) 100 300 1k… view at source ↗
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Epoch-normalized convergence for the L = 4 NW task. We report epochs to threshold for the same L = 4 configurations as [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_9.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 10. Figure 10: Full random-suffix component trajectories. Each NW target is augmented with a four-bit [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_10.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 11. Figure 11: Full dataset-size sweep for the train–random gap. For each [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_11.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Critical-data-size accounts of grokking suggest a natural post-threshold intuition: once training data is sufficient to identify the underlying rule, additional data should accelerate validation convergence. We show that this intuition can fail in a controlled structured-output task. In Needleman--Wunsch (NW) matrix generation, small Transformers reach high validation exact-match accuracy fastest at an intermediate dataset size, not at the largest one. Past this dataset-size sweet spot, generalization remains achievable but requires more gradient updates. Conversely, in the regime where partial validation competence first appears, larger datasets can require fewer updates to reach high training accuracy, suggesting that emerging rule structure can accelerate fitting beyond example-wise memorization. A multiplication baseline does not show the same post-threshold slowdown. These results separate the critical data size for the onset of generalization from the dataset size that optimizes update-based convergence, and identify structured-output tasks where learning the rule and completing exact-fitting can diverge.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper claims that in the Needleman-Wunsch matrix generation task, small Transformers achieve high validation exact-match accuracy with the fewest gradient updates at an intermediate dataset size rather than the largest one, contrary to post-threshold expectations from critical-data-size accounts of grokking. It further claims that larger datasets can accelerate training accuracy (memorization) once partial validation competence emerges, while a multiplication baseline does not exhibit the same post-threshold slowdown in generalization.

Significance. If the empirical observation holds under controlled conditions, the result would separate the critical data size required for the onset of generalization from the dataset size that minimizes the number of updates needed for convergence. This distinction could refine understanding of when rule structure accelerates fitting versus when additional data impedes update-efficient generalization in structured-output algorithmic tasks.

major comments (1)
  1. The provided abstract and reader's assessment indicate that experimental details (dataset size ranges, NW task generation procedure, Transformer hyperparameters, number of runs, and error bars) are not available for verification; without these, the robustness of the reported sweet spot cannot be assessed and the central empirical claim remains unverified.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their assessment and the opportunity to clarify the experimental details supporting our central claims. We address the major comment below.

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  1. Referee: The provided abstract and reader's assessment indicate that experimental details (dataset size ranges, NW task generation procedure, Transformer hyperparameters, number of runs, and error bars) are not available for verification; without these, the robustness of the reported sweet spot cannot be assessed and the central empirical claim remains unverified.

    Authors: The referee correctly notes that the abstract omits these specifics, which is standard for abstracts. The full manuscript contains a dedicated Experimental Setup section (Section 3) and Appendix that specify: dataset sizes spanning multiple orders of magnitude with the intermediate sweet spot identified; the NW matrix generation procedure via the standard dynamic-programming recurrence on random input sequences; the small Transformer architecture and training hyperparameters; the number of independent runs; and error bars on all reported curves. These elements are also referenced in the figure captions and results section. We believe this information suffices for verification and reproduction of the reported sweet spot and the contrast with the multiplication baseline. If any aspect remains unclear, we are happy to expand or clarify further in revision. revision: no

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity

full rationale

The paper is an empirical report on dataset-size effects in Transformer training for a structured-output task. The abstract describes observational results on validation accuracy convergence rates at different data scales, with no equations, derivations, fitted parameters presented as predictions, or self-citations invoked as load-bearing uniqueness theorems. No steps reduce by construction to inputs; the central claim is a direct experimental finding on a specific algorithmic task and baseline comparison, making the work self-contained against external benchmarks.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

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The work is an empirical investigation; no free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are described in the abstract.

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