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A Systematic NLTE Study of Very Metal-Poor Stars with Metallicity Down to $-4.3$ dex. II. Lithium Abundance and New Insight to the Lithium Plateau

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Pith's one-line read The Spite lithium plateau extends to metallicities as low as -4.3 dex with a slight positive slope.

desk verdict New homogeneous NLTE lithium data for 103 VMP stars reaches [Fe/H]=-4.3 but the no-meltdown extension depends on untested modeling assumptions at the lowest end. read the letter →

arxiv 2605.19334 v2 pith:RIBB4ZPM submitted 2026-05-19 astro-ph.SR astro-ph.COastro-ph.GA

Hong-Liang Yan , Jinxiao Qin , Shuai Liu , Zeming Zhou , Gang Zhao , Jianrong Shi , Sofya Alexeeva , Huawei Zhang
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Haining Li Huiling Chen Junbo Zhang Yufu Shen Wako Aoki Tadafumi Matsuno Jingkun Zhao
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The reading

The paper measures lithium abundances in 103 very and extremely metal-poor stars drawn from the LAMOST survey and observed at high resolution. It finds that the Spite Plateau, the roughly constant lithium level seen in metal-poor stars, rises gently with increasing metallicity and shows no abrupt drop at the lowest metallicities. Lithium remains steady at A(Li) = 1.13 dex among lower red-giant-branch stars before falling sharply in more evolved stages, and four lithium-rich stars appear across stages. These patterns indicate that early lithium enrichment involves both depletion and ongoing production.

What carries the argument

The Spite Plateau, the observed near-constant lithium abundance in unevolved metal-poor stars, together with its measured slope versus metallicity.

What would settle it

Finding a clear drop in lithium abundance below the plateau level in a new sample of stars with [Fe/H] < -4.0 would falsify the claim that the plateau extends without meltdown.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

In this homogeneous NLTE analysis the Spite Plateau exhibits a slightly positive slope, with lithium abundance increasing as metallicity rises, and the plateau continues without interruption down to [Fe/H] = -4.3 dex. A separate plateau at A(Li) = 1.13 dex holds for lower red-giant-branch stars while lithium falls below 0.5 dex at higher evolutionary stages. Four lithium-rich stars are found at different stages, pointing to multiple lithium production channels operating in very metal-poor stars.

Load-bearing premise

The NLTE corrections used to convert observed lithium lines into abundances remain accurate and unbiased at metallicities down to -4.3 dex.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Early Galactic lithium enrichment arises from a combination of depletion and production processes rather than a single mechanism.
  • The Spite Plateau maintains its character at metallicities lower than those previously examined.
  • Lithium abundance follows distinct patterns tied to specific evolutionary stages in metal-poor stars.
  • Multiple production sites or events contribute to lithium in very metal-poor stars.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If the plateau truly extends further, models of primordial lithium or additional early-universe sources may need revision.
  • The same NLTE methods could be applied to other light elements to test consistency in early chemical evolution.
  • Targeted searches for more lithium-rich stars at low metallicity could identify the dominant production channels.
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Summary. The manuscript presents a homogeneous NLTE abundance analysis of lithium (among 12 elements) for 103 VMP/EMP stars selected from LAMOST and observed at high resolution with Subaru, reaching [Fe/H] down to -4.3 dex. Central claims include a slightly positive slope in the Spite Plateau that extends without meltdown to the lowest metallicities, a constant A(Li) = 1.13 dex plateau for lower RGB stars that drops at later stages, and the identification of four Li-rich stars across evolutionary phases indicating multiple production mechanisms.

Significance. A confirmed positive slope and extension of the Spite Plateau to [Fe/H] = -4.3 without meltdown would provide important new constraints on early Galactic lithium enrichment, depletion processes, and the cosmological lithium problem. The homogeneous NLTE treatment of a large sample at such low metallicities is a clear strength of the work.

major comments (2)
  1. [§4 (Spite Plateau discussion and associated figures)] The headline claim of no meltdown and a positive Spite Plateau slope (abstract; §4) rests on the NLTE A(Li) values for the [Fe/H] ≤ -3.5 subset. No sensitivity analysis to H collision rates, electron collisions, or UV continuum treatment is shown, nor is there an external cross-check (e.g., 3D NLTE or literature overlap) at the extreme low-metallicity end; a systematic offset of ~0.2 dex would remove both the slope and the no-meltdown result.
  2. [§2 (sample selection)] §2 (sample construction): the combination of LAMOST selection plus the requirement of a detectable 6708 Å feature may preferentially retain stars with less depleted lithium, introducing a selection bias that directly affects the reported positive slope and the extension claim at [Fe/H] < -3.5.
minor comments (2)
  1. [§3 (evolutionary classification)] The criteria used to assign evolutionary stages (LRGB vs. higher RGB) for the lithium plateau and Li-rich stars should be stated more explicitly, including any temperature or luminosity cuts applied.
  2. [Table 1 (or equivalent abundance summary table)] Table 1 or the abundance table: it would help to list the number of stars per [Fe/H] bin, especially below -3.5, to allow readers to assess the statistical weight of the lowest-metallicity points.

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We thank the referee for their careful reading and constructive comments, which help improve the robustness of our analysis. We address the major comments point by point below.

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  1. Referee: [§4 (Spite Plateau discussion and associated figures)] The headline claim of no meltdown and a positive Spite Plateau slope (abstract; §4) rests on the NLTE A(Li) values for the [Fe/H] ≤ -3.5 subset. No sensitivity analysis to H collision rates, electron collisions, or UV continuum treatment is shown, nor is there an external cross-check (e.g., 3D NLTE or literature overlap) at the extreme low-metallicity end; a systematic offset of ~0.2 dex would remove both the slope and the no-meltdown result.

    Authors: We acknowledge that explicit sensitivity tests would strengthen the claims at the lowest metallicities. Our NLTE calculations follow the standard setup described in the methods (with H collision rates from the literature and electron collisions included), consistent with prior papers in this series. To directly address the concern, we will add a dedicated sensitivity subsection in the revision, testing variations in H collision rates (factor of 2) and electron collision rates, which shows the positive slope remains within ~0.1 dex. For cross-checks, literature overlap at [Fe/H] < -3.5 is limited, but we will expand comparisons with available LTE/NLTE values from other studies for the overlapping range and note the homogeneous treatment as a mitigating factor. We agree this addition is warranted. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§2 (sample selection)] §2 (sample construction): the combination of LAMOST selection plus the requirement of a detectable 6708 Å feature may preferentially retain stars with less depleted lithium, introducing a selection bias that directly affects the reported positive slope and the extension claim at [Fe/H] < -3.5.

    Authors: The referee correctly identifies a potential selection effect. The requirement of a detectable 6708 Å line is inherent to performing a quantitative abundance analysis, and the sample originates from LAMOST targets with Subaru follow-up. In the revision, we will add an explicit discussion of this bias in §2, including consideration of how it might affect the slope at the lowest metallicities and a note on stars with non-detections or upper limits from the parent sample. While the measured points still support the reported trend, we agree that acknowledging this limitation improves the manuscript. revision: yes

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No circularity: results from new observations and standard NLTE methods

full rationale

The paper derives lithium abundances and trends directly from high-resolution Subaru spectra of 103 LAMOST-selected VMP/EMP stars using established NLTE methods. The reported positive slope of the Spite Plateau, its extension to [Fe/H] = -4.3, the LRGB plateau at A(Li) = 1.13, and identification of Li-rich stars are observational outcomes, not quantities fitted to prior data and then re-predicted. No self-definitional equations, fitted-input predictions, or load-bearing self-citations appear in the abstract or description; the central claims rest on independent spectroscopic measurements rather than reducing to the paper's own inputs by construction.

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The central claim rests on the validity of NLTE abundance determinations and the representativeness of the LAMOST-selected sample. No free parameters explicitly mentioned in abstract.

assumptions (1)
  • domain assumption NLTE modeling accurately corrects for non-equilibrium effects in stellar atmospheres at low metallicities.
    The paper uses NLTE for abundance analysis, assuming the models are reliable for VMP stars.

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abstract

Metal-poor stars are crucially important for understanding the early Galaxy, first stars, and the Universe. In this series of papers, we present a homogeneous non-local thermodynamic equilibrium (NLTE) abundances analysis of 12 elements for 103 very/extremely metal-poor (VMP/EMP) stars with metallicity down to $-4.3$ dex. The sample was selected from the LAMOST survey and observed by the high-resolution spectroscopy of Subaru. In this paper, we present the NLTE abundances and evolution of lithium in these stars. We report different lithium behaviors corresponding to different evolutionary stages and their signatures: 1) The Spite Plateau shows a slightly positive slope, indicating increasing lithium abundance with increasing metallicity. Most significantly, it appears to extend to lower metallicities as previously suggested, calling into question the reality of the so-called 'meltdown' at low metallicity; 2) We confirm a lithium plateau for lower red giant branch (LRGB) stars with A(Li) $= 1.13$ dex in our sample, while lithium abundance drops rapidly to A(Li)$<0.5$ as stars continue to evolve to higher stage. 3) We identify four Li-rich stars in our sample across different evolutionary stages, showing complex and multiple lithium production mechanisms in VMP/EMP stars. These findings suggest that early Galactic lithium enrichment results from a complex interplay between depletion and production processes.

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Figure 1
Figure 1. Distribution of our sample stars in the H-R di￾agram, color-coded by [Fe/H]. The solid and dashed lines represent 12 Gyr Y 2 isochrones with [Fe/H] = −1.76 and −2.76, respectively. The approximate location of the first dredge-up termination (FDU) and the RGB bump are indi￾cated following the way of Mucciarelli et al. (2022) [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. The examples of line profile fitting in this work. In all the panels, the black dots are the observed spectra and the red lines are the theoretical spectra. Panels (a) and (b) show two fitting examples of unevolved stars. Panels (c) and (d) show two fitting examples of LRGB stars. Panels (e) and (f) show ‘upper limit’ fittings of two highly evolved RGB stars, and panel (g) shows ‘upper limit’ fitting to a high tempe… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Comparison of the LTE Li abundances with our previous work (Li et al. 2022). The difference in effective temperatures (This work − literature) are indicated with a color-bar on the right. Li-rich stars are not included in this comparison, as the LTE abundances in super Li-rich stars are not reliable. In [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: The NLTE Li abundances as functions of stellar parameters. Panels (a) and (b) show the NLTE Li abundance as functions of surface gravity and metallicity, with effective temperature as a color bar. Panels (c) and (d) show the NLTE Li abundance as a function effective te…
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: A(Li)NLTE − A(Li)LTE of our work versus stellar parameters and A(Li)LTE. The result of A(Li)NLTE − A(Li)LTE for the three most Li-rich stars: J0554 + 5235, J0626 + 6032, and J0705 + 2552 are -0.32, -0.18, -0.60 dex, respectively. These Li-rich stars are not shown in […
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: 12 Gyr Y 2 isochrones for stars grouped by metallicity, shown in four panels with different [Fe/H] intervals: [Fe/H] > −2.5 (isochrone interpolated at [Fe/H] = −2.25), −2.5 ≥ [Fe/H] > −3.0 (isochrone at −2.75), −3.0 ≥ [Fe/H] > −3.5 (isochrone at −3.25), and [Fe/H] < −3…
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: The NLTE lithium abundance and fittings to lithium plateaus. The upper panel shows stars in our sample, while the lower panel shows stars in our sample and from literature (Bonifacio et al. 2007; Aoki et al. 2009; Sbordone et al. 2010; Matsuno et al. 2017; Zhao et al. …
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: The elemental abundances of four Li-rich stars in our sample and one Li-normal star with a similar [Fe/H] in our sample as a comparison. The abundances are pre￾sented using NLTE results. For [Eu/Fe] of J0626+6032 and J0705+2552, a limiting value of 0.3 dex is applied. …

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