An Improved Adaptive PID Optimizer with Enhanced Convergence and Stability for Deep Learning
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The pith
Integrating non-increasing effective learning rates and gradient-difference modulation into AdaPID fixes convergence and stability problems inherited from Adam.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
By grafting the non-increasing effective learning rate schedule originally proposed in AMSGrad together with the gradient-difference modulation factor originally proposed in DiffGrad onto the Adaptive PID (AdaPID) framework, the new IAdaPID-ADG optimizer simultaneously resolves the convergence and stability limitations that AdaPID inherits from Adam. On MNIST, CIFAR-10, IARC and AnnoCerv the combined optimizer produces lower final loss and higher accuracy than Adam, AMSGrad, DiffGrad, AdaPID and other baselines, while the ablation study isolates the contribution of each grafted component.
What carries the argument
The IAdaPID-ADG optimizer formed by grafting a non-increasing effective learning rate and a gradient-difference modulation factor onto the Adaptive PID controller.
If this is right
- Training runs reach lower loss values because the effective learning rate never increases after a gradient step.
- Gradient updates become smoother because the modulation factor damps changes when successive gradients differ sharply.
- The same two grafts can be applied to other PID-based or adaptive controllers without changing their core equations.
- Ablation results indicate that removing either graft measurably degrades final accuracy on the tested image datasets.
- Real-world datasets such as IARC and AnnoCerv exhibit the same ranking of optimizers as the benchmark sets.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The same grafting strategy could be tested on recurrent or transformer architectures where long-term gradient stability is even more critical.
- If the modulation factor can be made adaptive to batch size or network depth, the need for per-dataset hyper-parameter search might decrease further.
- Theoretical convergence proofs for the combined update rule would strengthen the empirical results and guide further extensions.
- The approach suggests that other control-theoretic ideas beyond PID could be combined with adaptive-rate mechanisms in a similar modular fashion.
Load-bearing premise
That grafting these two specific mechanisms onto AdaPID will correct both convergence and stability shortcomings without creating new instabilities or requiring per-dataset retuning of the added components.
What would settle it
A direct head-to-head training run on CIFAR-10 or a comparable dataset in which IAdaPID-ADG reaches higher final loss or exhibits larger oscillations than plain AdaPID or AMSGrad would falsify the central performance claim.
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Optimization is essential in deep learning. The foundational method upon which most optimizers are built is momentum-based stochastic gradient descent. However, it suffers from two key drawbacks. First, it has noisy and varying gradients, and second, it has an overshoot phenomenon. To address noisy gradients, Adam was proposed, which remains the most widely used adaptive optimizer. To address the overshoot phenomenon, a control-theory-based PID optimizer was proposed. To tackle both the limitations within a single framework, several variants of Adaptive PID (AdaPID) have recently been proposed. Although AdaPID performs well, it still inherits two critical drawbacks from Adam, namely convergence and stability issues. In this work, we address both these limitations. To fix the convergence issue, we uniquely integrate the idea of using a non-increasing effective learning rate into AdaPID (originally proposed in AMSGrad, an extension of Adam). To fix the stability issue, we innovatively integrate a gradient difference based modulation factor into AdaPID (originally proposed in DiffGrad, another extension of Adam). Combining both these ideas in AdaPID, results in our novel IAdaPID-ADG optimizer. We evaluate our proposed optimizer on multiple datasets, including benchmark datasets (MNIST and CIFAR10) and real-world datasets (IARC and AnnoCerv). The IAdaPID-ADG substantially outperforms all competing optimizers. Additionally, we perform an ablation study on the MNIST dataset to demonstrate the contribution of each added component.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes IAdaPID-ADG, which augments the Adaptive PID (AdaPID) optimizer by integrating a non-increasing effective learning rate (drawn from AMSGrad) to address convergence issues and a gradient-difference-based modulation factor (drawn from DiffGrad) to address stability issues. The authors evaluate the resulting optimizer on MNIST, CIFAR10, IARC, and AnnoCerv, claiming substantial outperformance over competing methods, and include an ablation study on MNIST to show the contribution of each added component.
Significance. If the empirical gains prove robust under proper controls and statistical validation, the work offers a practical extension of control-theoretic optimization ideas by grafting two established mechanisms onto AdaPID. This could be useful for practitioners facing convergence and stability problems in Adam-style adaptive methods, though the significance hinges on whether the combination generalizes without dataset-specific retuning or new instabilities.
major comments (2)
- Abstract and Experiments section: The ablation study demonstrating the individual contributions of the non-increasing effective learning rate and the gradient-difference modulation factor is reported only on MNIST. No equivalent breakdown, sensitivity analysis, or component-wise results are described for CIFAR10, IARC, or AnnoCerv. This leaves open whether the two mechanisms interact with the existing PID terms in ways that require per-dataset retuning or degrade performance on the other tasks, which directly bears on the central claim of consistent substantial outperformance across all evaluated datasets.
- Experiments section: The manuscript asserts outperformance but supplies no tables with numerical results, error bars, standard deviations, or statistical significance tests for the comparisons against baselines. Without these details it is impossible to determine whether the reported gains are statistically reliable or sensitive to hyper-parameter choices and baseline implementations.
minor comments (1)
- The abstract and introduction could more explicitly distinguish the proposed IAdaPID-ADG from the prior AdaPID variants mentioned, including precise citations and a clearer statement of what is novel versus what is directly inherited.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their valuable comments and recommendation for major revision. Below we provide point-by-point responses to the major comments and describe the revisions we intend to make.
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Referee: Abstract and Experiments section: The ablation study demonstrating the individual contributions of the non-increasing effective learning rate and the gradient-difference modulation factor is reported only on MNIST. No equivalent breakdown, sensitivity analysis, or component-wise results are described for CIFAR10, IARC, or AnnoCerv. This leaves open whether the two mechanisms interact with the existing PID terms in ways that require per-dataset retuning or degrade performance on the other tasks, which directly bears on the central claim of consistent substantial outperformance across all evaluated datasets.
Authors: We thank the referee for highlighting this limitation. We performed the ablation study on MNIST because it is computationally lightweight and serves as a standard benchmark for isolating the effects of each component. The results on the other datasets (CIFAR10, IARC, AnnoCerv) show that IAdaPID-ADG achieves substantial outperformance, which suggests the mechanisms generalize without obvious negative interactions. Nevertheless, to provide a more complete picture, we will extend the ablation study to include CIFAR10 in the revised manuscript. revision: yes
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Referee: Experiments section: The manuscript asserts outperformance but supplies no tables with numerical results, error bars, standard deviations, or statistical significance tests for the comparisons against baselines. Without these details it is impossible to determine whether the reported gains are statistically reliable or sensitive to hyper-parameter choices and baseline implementations.
Authors: We acknowledge the lack of detailed numerical tables and statistical analysis in the current version. The comparisons are shown via plots in the experiments section. To improve clarity and allow assessment of statistical reliability, we will add tables with mean performance metrics and standard deviations from repeated experiments, along with appropriate statistical tests, in the revised manuscript. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: empirical grafting of prior mechanisms with external validation
full rationale
The paper constructs IAdaPID-ADG by explicitly combining the non-increasing effective learning rate from AMSGrad and the gradient-difference modulation from DiffGrad into the existing AdaPID framework. These steps are presented as integrations of independently published ideas rather than derivations that reduce to the paper's own fitted values or self-citations. Performance claims rest on direct empirical comparisons across MNIST, CIFAR10, IARC, and AnnoCerv, plus an ablation on MNIST, with no equations shown to be equivalent to inputs by construction. The derivation chain is therefore self-contained and externally falsifiable.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
free parameters (2)
- non-increasing effective learning rate schedule
- gradient-difference modulation factor
axioms (2)
- domain assumption AdaPID still suffers from the convergence and stability problems of Adam
- ad hoc to paper Adding the two mechanisms will jointly resolve both problems
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