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arxiv: 2605.25451 · v2 · pith:LHRIBK5Znew · submitted 2026-05-25 · 💻 cs.LG

BigMac: Breaking the Pareto Frontier of Compute and Memory in Multimodal LLM Training

Zili Zhang , Chengxu Yang , Shenglong Zhang , Chenyu Wang , Yufan Zhang , Tuo Dai , Zhouyang Li , Yuhong Ge
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classification 💻 cs.LG
keywords multimodal LLM trainingactivation memorypipeline nestingcompute-memory trade-offencoder generatornested pipelinePareto frontier
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BigMac nests encoder and generator computations into the LLM pipeline to reduce their activation memory to O(1) while matching unlimited-memory compute efficiency.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper establishes that multimodal LLM training need not trade computational speed for memory usage. By nesting encoder and generator steps inside the existing LLM pipeline in a dependency-safe manner, the approach keeps memory for those components constant even as batch size grows. This structure preserves the full computational efficiency that would be possible with unlimited memory. Readers care because current systems force a choice between faster runs and higher memory costs, limiting how large or fast these models can be trained on available hardware.

Core claim

BigMac achieves simultaneous optimization of computation and memory in MLLM training by elegantly nesting the encoder and generator computation into the original LLM pipeline, forming a dependency-safe nested pipeline structure. With this design, BigMac reduces the activation memory complexity of the encoder and generator to O(1) while keeping the activation memory complexity of the LLM unchanged. At the same time, it achieves the same computational efficiency as the idealized setting with unlimited memory.

What carries the argument

The dependency-safe nested pipeline structure that integrates encoder and generator computations into the LLM pipeline.

If this is right

  • Achieves 1.08×-1.9× training speedup over baseline systems.
  • Maintains stable memory usage as batch size increases.
  • Enables simultaneous optimization of both computation and memory rather than trading one for the other.
  • Reduces activation memory complexity of encoder and generator components to constant while leaving LLM complexity unchanged.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The nesting idea may extend to other training pipelines that combine heterogeneous components such as vision encoders with language models.
  • Hardware clusters with strict per-device memory limits could support larger effective batches without additional model sharding.
  • Reduced per-component memory might lower the frequency of checkpointing or offloading operations in long training runs.

Load-bearing premise

The encoder and generator computations can be nested into the LLM pipeline in a dependency-safe manner without introducing correctness errors, extra synchronization overhead, or changes to the mathematical behavior of the training process.

What would settle it

Measuring whether the nested pipeline produces identical loss curves and final model accuracy to a non-nested baseline while also matching the wall-clock time of an idealized unlimited-memory run would directly test the claim.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.25451 by Chao Jin, Chengxu Yang, Chenyu Wang, Shenglong Zhang, Tuo Dai, Xin Jin, Yufan Zhang, Yuhong Ge, Yuliang Liu, Zhouyang Li, Zili Zhang.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: The architecture of multimodal LLMs. 1 INTRODUCTION Multimodal large language models (MLLMs) provide a unified framework for processing multi￾modal inputs and generating multimodal outputs, making them a powerful foundation for next￾generation AI systems. By combining the reasoning, instruction-following, and generative capa￾bilities of LLMs with modality-specific components, MLLMs enable more general and … view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Figure 2: The pipeline structure of compute-efficient MLLM training (pp size = 4, batch size = 64). [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: The pipeline structure of memory-efficient MLLM training (pp size = 4, batch size = 8). [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: The pipeline scheme of BIGMAC (pp size = 4, vpp size = 2, batch size = 64). has footprint Al . Compute-efficient systems decouple encoder and generator computation from the LLM pipeline, so the LLM only incurs the standard 1F1B fill/drain overhead, with bubble rate approximately (P − 1)/(M + P − 1), which becomes small when M ≫ P. However, this low bubble rate comes from extending activation lifetime: on t… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: BUILDSCHEDULE nests encoder/generator units into the LLM pipeline schedule. def encoder_forward(data_iter): input_ids, encoder_inputs = next(data_iter) encoder_feature = encoder(encoder_inputs) return input_ids, encoder_feature def llm_forward_step(llm_iter): input_ids, encoder_feature = next(llm_iter) embedding = embed_preprocess(input_ids, encoder_feature ) output = llm(embedding) return output def gener… view at source ↗
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: The pipeline scheme of BIGMAC with context parallel (LLM CP = 2, Encoder CP = 1). that forwards produced tensors to consumers. This preserves the pipeline compute order in [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_7.png] view at source ↗
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: A pipeline slice of BIGMAC with an encoder trained using FSDP. handoff follows the same pattern on the LLM output side: the last LLM stage scatters output activa￾tions to generator ranks, runs generator forward and backward for the unit, and gathers the resulting input gradients to trigger LLM backward. 3.3 BIGMAC COMPATIBILITY In this subsection, we discuss how BIGMAC integrates with common MLLM training … view at source ↗
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: Overall performance of BIGMAC under training MLLM-Understanding. 2 4 8 12 16 Batch Size per GPU 50 100 150 Iteration Time (s) 2 4 8 12 16 Batch Size per GPU 40 80 Peak Memory (GB) Megatron-DistTrain Optimus BigMac [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p008_9.png] view at source ↗
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: Overall performance of BIGMAC under training MLLM-Generation. FSDP’s sharded-memory benefit while removing the all-rank all-gather barrier that creates the pipeline bubbles. 4 EVALUATION 4.1 EXPERIMENTAL SETUP Testbed. We evaluate BIGMAC on a 16-server cluster with 128 NVIDIA Hopper GPUs. Each server contains eight GPUs, 160 Intel Xeon CPU cores, and 1.8 TB of host memory. Intra-server GPU communication u… view at source ↗
Figure 11
Figure 11. Figure 11: Case study of BIGMAC’s compatibility. 4.2 OVERALL PERFORMANCE MLLM-Understanding. We first evaluate BIGMAC on the MLLM-Understanding workload. Fig￾ure 9 reports iteration time and peak GPU memory usage under different per-GPU batch sizes. BIGMAC consistently achieves the lowest iteration time, improving over Optimus by 1.08×–1.1× and over Megatron-DistTrain by 1.6×–1.9×. Compared with Megatron-DistTrain, … view at source ↗
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: Optimus runs out of memory at all batch sizes since it needs to retain all LLM activations [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_10.png] view at source ↗
Figure 12
Figure 12. Figure 12: Production deployment metrics of BIGMAC. 4.4 PRODUCTION DEPLOYMENT BIGMAC has been deployed in production MLLM training for several months. We present a repre￾sentative deployment result from an internal 345B-parameter MLLM training run on 1,536 Hopper GPUs [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_12.png] view at source ↗
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Training multimodal large language models (MLLMs) is challenged by both model and data heterogeneity. Existing systems redesign the training pipeline to address these challenges, but remain bound by a Pareto frontier between compute and memory efficiency, improving one only at the expense of the other. We present BigMac, a new training pipeline for multimodal LLMs. The core idea of BigMac is to elegantly nest the encoder and generator computation into the original LLM pipeline, forming a dependency-safe nested pipeline structure. With this design, BigMac reduces the activation memory complexity of the encoder and generator to O(1) while keeping the activation memory complexity of the LLM unchanged. At the same time, it achieves the same computational efficiency as the idealized setting with unlimited memory. As a result, BigMac breaks the Pareto frontier between computational efficiency and memory usage, enabling simultaneous optimization of both computation and memory in MLLM training. We evaluate BigMac on multiple MLLMs and training workloads. Experimental results show that BigMac achieves a 1.08$\times$-1.9$\times$ training speedup over baseline systems while maintaining stable memory usage as batch size increases.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper introduces BigMac, a training pipeline for multimodal LLMs that nests encoder and generator computations into the LLM pipeline via a dependency-safe structure. It claims this reduces encoder/generator activation memory to O(1) while leaving LLM activation memory unchanged, achieves identical computational efficiency to an unlimited-memory ideal, breaks the compute-memory Pareto frontier, and delivers 1.08×–1.9× speedups with stable memory as batch size grows.

Significance. If the nesting mechanism delivers the stated O(1) memory bound and zero recomputation penalty while preserving exact training semantics, the result would be a meaningful systems advance for MLLM training, allowing larger batches or models without the usual trade-offs. The reported speedups on multiple workloads indicate practical impact if the controls and measurements are sound.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that nesting yields O(1) encoder/generator activation memory with unchanged LLM memory and identical total FLOPs to the unlimited-memory baseline is load-bearing, yet the abstract supplies neither a dependency graph, pseudocode, nor complexity derivation showing how self-attention token dependencies and cross-modal gradients are resolved without full buffering or recomputation.
  2. [Abstract] Abstract (experimental claims): the 1.08×–1.9× speedup and stable memory scaling are reported without naming the baseline systems, measurement methodology for activation memory, or controls for batch/sequence length, making it impossible to assess whether the Pareto-breaking result holds under standard evaluation.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive feedback. We address the two major comments on the abstract below. Both points identify legitimate opportunities to improve clarity, and we will revise the abstract accordingly in the next version.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the central claim that nesting yields O(1) encoder/generator activation memory with unchanged LLM memory and identical total FLOPs to the unlimited-memory baseline is load-bearing, yet the abstract supplies neither a dependency graph, pseudocode, nor complexity derivation showing how self-attention token dependencies and cross-modal gradients are resolved without full buffering or recomputation.

    Authors: We agree the abstract is too concise to include these supporting elements. The full manuscript contains the dependency graph (Figure 2), pseudocode (Algorithm 1), and the O(1) complexity derivation with explicit handling of self-attention and cross-modal gradients (Section 3.2 and Theorem 1). We will revise the abstract to add one sentence summarizing the dependency-safe nesting mechanism. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract (experimental claims): the 1.08×–1.9× speedup and stable memory scaling are reported without naming the baseline systems, measurement methodology for activation memory, or controls for batch/sequence length, making it impossible to assess whether the Pareto-breaking result holds under standard evaluation.

    Authors: The abstract summarizes results; full details appear in Section 5 (baselines: standard sequential pipeline and Megatron-style sharding; activation memory measured via PyTorch memory profiler; controls: batch sizes 1–32, sequence lengths 512–2048, fixed hardware). We will revise the abstract to name the primary baselines and note the evaluation controls. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: system-design claim independent of inputs

full rationale

The paper advances a concrete pipeline architecture (nesting encoder/generator into LLM stages) whose claimed O(1) activation memory for encoder/generator, unchanged LLM memory, and baseline-equivalent FLOPs are direct consequences of the described dependency-safe nesting. No equations, fitted parameters, or self-citations are invoked to derive these properties; the abstract and provided text contain no self-definitional reductions, ansatzes smuggled via citation, or renamings of prior results. The central assertion is an engineering assertion about a new execution schedule, not a mathematical derivation that collapses to its own inputs. This matches the default expectation for non-circular systems papers.

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