FOSTER: First-order Dataset Distillation for Text-based Sequential Recommendation

Hongzhi Yin; Hung Vinh Tran; Julien Monteil; Junliang Yu; Tong Chen; Xinyi Gao

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A first-order method distills text-based sequential recommendation datasets to as few as 20 synthetic sequences while matching full-dataset performance.

2026-06-28 21:21 UTC pith:EZOWUUJ5

load-bearing objection FOSTER gives three concrete engineering fixes for dataset distillation in LM-based sequential recs, but the abstract leaves the first-order approximation's reliability untested. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2605.30772 v1 pith:EZOWUUJ5 submitted 2026-05-29 cs.IR

FOSTER: First-order Dataset Distillation for Text-based Sequential Recommendation

Hung Vinh Tran , Tong Chen , Xinyi Gao , Junliang Yu , Julien Monteil , Hongzhi Yin This is my paper

classification cs.IR

keywords dataset distillationsequential recommendationtext-based recommendationfirst-order optimizationsynthetic sequencesco-occurrence regularizationrecommender systems

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The pith

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The paper introduces FOSTER to address the high training cost of text-based sequential recommenders that use language model encodings for item contexts. It replaces expensive bi-level optimization with three components: stochastic item subset sampling to avoid full-corpus embeddings, first-order optimization using trajectory-anchored parameter resets, and explicit regularization to encourage co-occurrence of similar items. This produces compact synthetic interaction sequences that train models nearly as effectively as the original large dataset. A sympathetic reader would care because it makes distillation feasible in a domain where discrete item pools and embedding costs previously blocked it. Experiments across three benchmarks show consistent gains over prior distillation and coreset methods.

Core claim

FOSTER enables effective dataset distillation for text-based sequential recommendation by using stochastic item subset sampling, first-order optimization with trajectory-anchored parameter reset, and co-occurrence regularization, so that a synthetic set of 20 sequences can approximate the performance obtained from training on the full dataset.

What carries the argument

First-order optimization with trajectory-anchored parameter reset, supported by stochastic item subset sampling and explicit co-occurrence regularization in the synthetic sequences.

Load-bearing premise

The three components together avoid introducing systematic bias or quality loss in the distilled sequences relative to what bi-level optimization would produce.

What would settle it

Direct comparison of model accuracy when training on FOSTER's 20-sequence output versus the output of a feasible bi-level distillation run on the same benchmark data.

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If this is right

Models trained on the distilled set reach accuracy close to those trained on the full original dataset.
Training cost drops because full-corpus embedding extraction and bi-level gradients are no longer required at each step.
The approach outperforms both existing dataset distillation techniques and coreset selection baselines on the tested benchmarks.
The method works with language-model item encodings and large discrete item vocabularies without requiring full recomputation each iteration.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

Production recommender systems could adopt much smaller synthetic training sets to lower compute and storage needs.
The same first-order tricks might transfer to distillation tasks in other sequential modeling domains with discrete tokens.
Further tests on datasets larger than the three benchmarks would show whether the approximation holds at scale.
Privacy benefits could arise if only the small synthetic sequences need to be retained instead of raw user histories.

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Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit.

Desk Editor's Note

FOSTER gives three concrete engineering fixes for dataset distillation in LM-based sequential recs, but the abstract leaves the first-order approximation's reliability untested.

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The paper's core move is adapting dataset distillation to text-based sequential recommendation by replacing bi-level optimization with three pieces: stochastic item subset sampling to skip full LM embedding passes, a first-order trajectory reset to avoid inner-loop gradients, and explicit co-occurrence regularization on the synthetic sequences. These target real bottlenecks—discrete item pools and expensive language model encodings—so the work is aimed squarely at making distillation practical in this setting.

What stands out is the specificity of the adaptations. Stochastic sampling and the reset heuristic are direct responses to the non-differentiable and high-cost parts of the problem, and the regularizer tries to preserve semantic structure that standard distillation might lose. If the experiments hold, this could let people train on 20 synthetic sequences instead of full datasets.

The soft spot is exactly where the stress-test note points: the first-order reset replaces proper gradient flow through the recommendation model with a replay heuristic. In non-convex landscapes with high-dimensional LM embeddings and discrete sampling, that shortcut can easily under- or over-weight rare co-occurrences. The abstract claims consistent outperformance over baselines and near full-data performance, but without ablations, error bars, or verification that the three components actually compensate for the missing bi-level signal, the central claim stays unverified. The circularity burden is zero and the method is new, yet the evidence gap is large.

This is for researchers working on efficient training of text-aware recommenders who already know the standard distillation literature. A reader who needs a drop-in method for production systems would get value only if the full experiments are clean and reproducible. It deserves a serious referee because the problem is practically relevant and the proposed fixes are specific enough to evaluate, even if heavy revision on the empirical side is likely.

Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The paper proposes FOSTER, a first-order dataset distillation approach for text-based sequential recommendation. It introduces three components—stochastic item subset sampling to avoid full-corpus embedding extraction, first-order optimization via trajectory-anchored parameter reset to bypass bi-level gradients, and explicit co-occurrence regularization—to distill large interaction datasets into small synthetic sequence sets (as few as 20), claiming these consistently outperform existing distillation and coreset baselines while approximating full-dataset performance on three benchmarks.

Significance. If the empirical results hold, the work would offer a practical route to reduce training costs for language-model-based sequential recommenders, where bi-level optimization is prohibitive due to discrete items and high-dimensional embeddings. The explicit handling of co-occurrence and subset sampling directly targets domain-specific challenges in text-encoded recommendation data.

major comments (2)

[Method (description of first-order optimization and trajectory-anchored reset)] The central claim that the three components together match or exceed bi-level distillation quality rests on the first-order optimization with trajectory-anchored parameter reset. This replaces the inner-loop gradient through the recommendation model with a reset-and-replay heuristic, implicitly assuming short trajectory segments suffice to capture optimization-path effects on the distilled data. In the non-convex loss landscapes of LM item embeddings with discrete sampling, this assumption risks systematic bias for rare co-occurrences, and the manuscript provides no gradient approximation bounds or diagnostic experiments to substantiate it.
[Experiments (main results and component analysis)] The performance claims on the three benchmarks (approximating full-dataset results with 20 synthetic sequences) are load-bearing on the joint effectiveness of stochastic subset sampling, the reset heuristic, and co-occurrence regularization. Without reported ablations that isolate each component's contribution or comparisons against a bi-level baseline adapted to the text setting, it is unclear whether the first-order shortcut preserves utility or merely appears competitive due to the specific regularization.

minor comments (1)

The abstract and method overview would benefit from a concise statement of the recommendation model architecture and loss used in the distillation loop, to clarify how the discrete item sampling interacts with the LM embeddings.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive feedback and the recommendation for major revision. We address each major comment point by point below, indicating where revisions will be made.

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Referee: [Method (description of first-order optimization and trajectory-anchored reset)] The central claim that the three components together match or exceed bi-level distillation quality rests on the first-order optimization with trajectory-anchored parameter reset. This replaces the inner-loop gradient through the recommendation model with a reset-and-replay heuristic, implicitly assuming short trajectory segments suffice to capture optimization-path effects on the distilled data. In the non-convex loss landscapes of LM item embeddings with discrete sampling, this assumption risks systematic bias for rare co-occurrences, and the manuscript provides no gradient approximation bounds or diagnostic experiments to substantiate it.

Authors: We appreciate the referee's point on the approximation quality. The trajectory-anchored reset is designed to replay short optimization segments from an anchored model state, avoiding full bi-level gradients while capturing path-dependent effects relevant to recommendation training. Our results on three benchmarks show the distilled sequences achieve near full-dataset performance, indicating practical effectiveness. We acknowledge that formal gradient approximation bounds are difficult to derive in this non-convex discrete setting and are beyond the current scope. In the revision we will add diagnostic experiments, including parameter divergence tracking and performance analysis on rare co-occurrence subsets, to further substantiate the heuristic. revision: yes
Referee: [Experiments (main results and component analysis)] The performance claims on the three benchmarks (approximating full-dataset results with 20 synthetic sequences) are load-bearing on the joint effectiveness of stochastic subset sampling, the reset heuristic, and co-occurrence regularization. Without reported ablations that isolate each component's contribution or comparisons against a bi-level baseline adapted to the text setting, it is unclear whether the first-order shortcut preserves utility or merely appears competitive due to the specific regularization.

Authors: We agree that stronger isolation of components would clarify contributions. While the manuscript already reports overall results and comparisons to distillation/coreset baselines, we will expand the experiments with additional ablations that systematically disable or vary each of the three components individually. A direct bi-level baseline is not feasible: the prohibitive cost of full-corpus embedding extraction and second-order gradients through the language model is exactly the challenge our first-order method targets. The close match to full-dataset performance suggests the first-order approach contributes utility beyond regularization alone. revision: partial

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No circularity: method proposal with independent experimental validation

full rationale

The paper introduces FOSTER as a practical first-order approximation to bi-level dataset distillation, using three explicitly engineered components (stochastic subset sampling, trajectory-anchored reset, and co-occurrence regularization) whose effectiveness is demonstrated via direct comparison against baselines on three benchmarks. No equations appear in the abstract or description that equate a claimed prediction to a fitted parameter by construction, nor does any load-bearing premise rest on self-citation of an unverified uniqueness result. The derivation chain consists of algorithmic design choices whose utility is externally falsifiable through the reported performance metrics rather than being tautological with the inputs.

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Text-based sequential recommender systems, while greatly improving recommendation accuracy by incorporating item contexts, are undeniably more expensive to train. By condensing a large dataset into a compact set of synthetic samples for model training, dataset distillation offers a promising solution. However, its adoption in text-based sequential recommendation is non-trivial given the large pool of discrete items. This challenge is further compounded by language model-based item encoding, which makes bi-level optimization commonly used in dataset distillation prohibitively expensive. To this end, we propose First-order dataset distillation for Text-based Sequential Recommendation (FOSTER), which facilitates effectiveness and efficiency via three novel components: (1) stochastic item subset sampling that replaces costly full-corpus embedding extraction at each distillation step; (2) first-order optimization with trajectory-anchored parameter reset to avoid expensive bi-level gradient computation; and (3) regularization that explicitly promotes co-occurrence between semantically similar items in the synthetic sequences. Extensive experiments on three benchmarks show that FOSTER consistently outperforms existing dataset distillation and coreset selection baselines, approximating full-dataset performance using as few as 20 synthetic interaction sequences.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.30772 by Hongzhi Yin, Hung Vinh Tran, Julien Monteil, Junliang Yu, Tong Chen, Xinyi Gao.

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Effect of periodic reset on bilevel distillation. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_2.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Ablation study on the Foods and Games datasets. “w/o Reset” removes the parameter reset step; “w/o Pretrain” employs random initialization resets instead of pre-trained trajectory; “Ours” is the full method. bone. The model is optimized using AdamW (Loshchilov and Hutter, 2019) with a learning rate of 2e-4. For synthetic and coreset datasets, a weight decay of 1e-4 is applied. The synthetic sequences are … view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Hyperparameter sensitive analysis on Foods [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_4.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 5.** Figure 5: Model performance under varying numbers of distilled sequences µ on Games and Yelp datasets. N = 256 N = 512 N = 1024 Foods Games 0 2 4 ·10−2 Recall@10 Foods Games 0 1 2 3 ·10−2 NDCG@10 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_5.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 6.** Figure 6: The effect of number of item sampled per step [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_6.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 7.** Figure 7: Item popularity distributions of the three train [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_7.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 8.** Figure 8: Games dataset visualization 14 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_8.png] view at source ↗

**Figure 9.** Figure 9: Foods dataset visualization 15 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_9.png] view at source ↗

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