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Polarization degree shows no correlation with gamma-ray flux in blazars, suggesting multiple emission mechanisms.

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load-bearing objection Reports 39 new rotations and no per-source PD-gamma correlation but dataset merging lacks documented calibration checks. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2606.17156 v1 pith:HMS2BK2S submitted 2026-06-15 astro-ph.HE

Optical polarization variability and its relation to gamma-ray activity in blazars

Styliana Grigoriou , Anastasia Glykopoulou , Ioannis Liodakis This is my paper
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keywords blazarsoptical polarizationgamma-ray variabilitypolarization angle rotationsjet emission mechanismsmultiwavelength light curves
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The paper merges public optical polarization data from three separate monitoring programs with gamma-ray observations to build densely sampled light curves for 15 blazars. It finds no statistical link between polarization degree and gamma-ray flux, either inside individual sources or across different source groupings. The authors interpret this absence of correlation as evidence that more than one physical process contributes to the emission. The work also records 64 polarization angle rotations across 12 sources and shows that the sample-wide trend of lower polarization during rotations does not hold for every individual object.

Core claim

The polarization degree does not correlate with the gamma-ray flux for individual sources nor different subsamples of blazars, potentially indicating multiple emission mechanisms. In the combined dataset 64 rotations are identified in 12 sources, with 39 being new. The sample as a whole shows lower polarization degrees during rotations, yet the distributions for rotation and non-rotation intervals are statistically indistinguishable in some individual sources.

What carries the argument

The merged multi-program optical polarization and gamma-ray light curves, searched for flux-polarization correlations and polarization angle rotations.

Load-bearing premise

The observations drawn from three distinct monitoring programs can be treated as a single homogeneous dataset without unaccounted calibration offsets or sampling biases.

What would settle it

A statistically significant correlation between polarization degree and gamma-ray flux appearing in a new, uniformly calibrated sample of blazars would contradict the reported absence of correlation.

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If this is right

  • Multiple emission mechanisms are required to explain the lack of correlation between optical polarization and gamma-ray activity.
  • Polarization angle rotations occur frequently but do not always produce the same change in polarization degree across sources.
  • Gamma-ray flares can occur without corresponding changes in the optical polarization properties tracked here.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Coordinated radio or X-ray monitoring during gamma-ray flares could reveal which wavelength band better traces the rotating polarization component.
  • Higher-cadence polarization measurements might uncover short-lived correlations that current sampling misses.
  • Source-by-source differences in rotation behavior suggest that jet geometry or magnetic-field structure varies enough to require case-by-case modeling.

Editorial analysis

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Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript combines publicly available optical polarization observations from three blazar monitoring programs to produce light curves for 15 sources. It reports no correlation between polarization degree and gamma-ray flux for individual sources or subsamples, identifies 64 polarization angle rotations (39 newly reported), confirms lower polarization degrees during rotations in the combined sample, but finds that rotation and non-rotation polarization degree distributions are statistically indistinguishable in some individual sources, and interprets the results as evidence for multiple emission mechanisms.

Significance. If the merged dataset is statistically homogeneous, the null-correlation result supplies direct observational support for the hypothesis that optical polarization and gamma-ray emission can arise from distinct processes, with implications for jet particle acceleration models. The expanded rotation catalog is a concrete addition to the observational record.

major comments (2)
  1. [Data assembly / methods section] The central claim of no PD–gamma-ray flux correlation (abstract and results section) rests on the assumption that data from the three monitoring programs form a homogeneous sample. The text states only that the observations were “combined” and does not report quantitative cross-calibration tests (e.g., overlap-source offset measurements) or Monte-Carlo assessments of how inter-program sampling differences affect the reported correlation coefficients and rotation identifications.
  2. [Results on correlations] The statistical procedures used to establish the absence of correlation for individual sources and subsamples (including error treatment and any multiple-testing corrections) are not described in sufficient detail to evaluate robustness against possible calibration offsets or cadence biases.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Rotation identification subsection] Clarify the exact criteria and time-scale thresholds used to identify polarization angle rotations, and state whether any of the 39 new rotations rely on the merged dataset.
  2. [Abstract and §2] The abstract claims “densely sampled” light curves; the main text should quantify the typical sampling interval and any systematic gaps introduced by program combination.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

We thank the referee for their constructive comments on our manuscript. We address the two major comments point by point below.

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  1. Referee: [Data assembly / methods section] The central claim of no PD–gamma-ray flux correlation (abstract and results section) rests on the assumption that data from the three monitoring programs form a homogeneous sample. The text states only that the observations were “combined” and does not report quantitative cross-calibration tests (e.g., overlap-source offset measurements) or Monte-Carlo assessments of how inter-program sampling differences affect the reported correlation coefficients and rotation identifications.

    Authors: We agree that the submitted manuscript does not provide quantitative cross-calibration or Monte Carlo tests for inter-program effects. All three programs use comparable instrumentation and reduction methods, and the lack of correlation is seen even within single-program subsets, but this does not substitute for explicit tests. We will revise the methods section to include overlap comparisons (where sources were observed by more than one program) and Monte Carlo simulations assessing sampling and potential offset effects on the reported correlations and rotation counts. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Results on correlations] The statistical procedures used to establish the absence of correlation for individual sources and subsamples (including error treatment and any multiple-testing corrections) are not described in sufficient detail to evaluate robustness against possible calibration offsets or cadence biases.

    Authors: The correlation analysis employed Spearman rank tests with uncertainties propagated via bootstrap resampling of the measurement errors; no multiple-testing correction was applied because tests were performed per source. We acknowledge that these steps are described too briefly. In revision we will expand the relevant paragraph to specify the exact test, error treatment, and rationale for the absence of multiple-testing adjustments, allowing direct assessment of robustness to the biases noted by the referee. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: purely observational analysis of public data

full rationale

The paper conducts statistical correlation tests and rotation identification on merged public polarization and gamma-ray monitoring datasets for 15 blazars. No equations, model derivations, parameter fits, or predictions are present that reduce to quantities defined by the authors' own inputs or self-citations. The central claim (absence of PD–gamma-ray flux correlation) follows directly from standard statistical measures applied to external observations; the data-combination step is an assumption about homogeneity but does not constitute a self-definitional or fitted-input reduction. Prior-work citations for trends are confirmatory and non-load-bearing for the new null-result findings.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

No free parameters, invented entities, or non-standard axioms are introduced; the work rests on standard assumptions of blazar jet physics and the reliability of public archival data.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Publicly released polarization and gamma-ray measurements from the cited monitoring programs are accurate and can be directly combined without major systematic offsets.
    Invoked when merging the three datasets to produce the light curves and perform the correlation and rotation analyses.

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Optical polarization can be an important probe of particle acceleration and high-energy emission processes in relativistic jets from supermassive black holes. We combined publicly available observations from three past blazar monitoring programs to produce densely sampled light curves for 15 blazars in order to explore the relation of gamma-ray activity to the polarization variability as well as discover new rotations of the polarization angle. We find that the polarization degree does not correlate with the gamma-ray flux for individual sources nor different subsamples of blazars, potentially indicating multiple emission mechanisms. In the combined dataset, we identified a total of 64 rotations in 12 sources, 39 of which are newly identified rotations. We confirm the trend found in previous works for the whole sample: lower polarization degrees during periods of polarization angle rotations. However, looking at the individual sources, we identified cases where the rotation and non-rotation polarization degree distributions are indistinguishable, providing further evidence for the multiple emission mechanism hypothesis.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.17156 by Anastasia Glykopoulou, Ioannis Liodakis, Styliana Grigoriou.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Optical polarization degree (top) and angle (bottom) light curve for PKS 1510-089. The polarization angle has been corrected for the 180◦ ambiguity. 3-day-binned light curves in the 0.1–100 GeV range with a test statistic threshold of four and the spectral index as a free param￾eter. To identify periods of significant variability in the γ-ray and polarization degree light curves, we used Bayesian blocks (B… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Normalized γ-ray flux versus normalized polarization degree for BLLs. The colors denote the active and quiescent polarization states defined as above and below the median polarization degree. The Spear￾man results support neither a correlation nor an anticorrelation for the quiescent, active, or combined datasets. any offset from intrinsically more polarized or more γ-ray-bright sources. Examples of the po… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Optical polarization angle rotation of about 154 degrees in CTA 102. The red line shows the identified rotation. The legend lists the p￾values for the t-test and binomial tests [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_3.png] view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Distribution of amplitudes (top) and duration (bottom) for the rotations in our sample. uncorrelated across all activity states. However, we caution the reader that the low number of sources in the different subclasses prevents us from drawing strong conclusions. 3.2. Polarization angle variability Using the polarization angle light curves and the methodology outlined in Glykopoulou et al. (2026), we ident… view at source ↗

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