Radial Perturbations of Black Holes in DHOST Theories
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The pith
The radial perturbation equation for black holes with primary hair in DHOST theories reduces to a flat wave equation whose operator admits a positive self-adjoint extension, proving stability of the monopole mode.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
In the unitary gauge the equation of motion for the radial monopole perturbation takes the form of a flat radial wave equation. The radial differential operator that appears in this equation possesses a positive self-adjoint extension once appropriate boundary conditions are imposed at the horizon and at infinity. This property guarantees that the radial mode is stable. The same flat wave equation and the same self-adjoint extension apply to all solutions related by disformal transformations. For stealth black holes with constant kinetic term the radial degree of freedom is absent at linear order; when the kinetic term is non-constant a propagating radial mode exists and remains stable excep
What carries the argument
The unitary gauge, in which the scalar field is uniform on spatial slices, converts the radial perturbation equation into a flat wave equation whose operator admits a positive self-adjoint extension.
If this is right
- All black-hole solutions related by disformal transformations inherit the same flat-wave stability property.
- Stealth solutions with constant kinetic term have no linear radial propagating degree of freedom.
- Stealth solutions with non-constant kinetic term possess a stable radial mode except for isolated values of the coupling constants.
- The radial coordinate in the unitary gauge extends smoothly through the horizon into the black-hole interior.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The flat-wave description may simplify the analysis of quasinormal modes or late-time tails for these black holes.
- Because the coordinate remains regular inside the horizon, the same operator could be used to study the behavior of perturbations in the black-hole interior.
- The result suggests that disformal transformations preserve not only the background solutions but also the linear radial stability properties.
Load-bearing premise
The unitary gauge coordinate remains regular across the event horizon and permits a well-defined self-adjoint extension of the radial operator for the entire family of solutions connected by disformal transformations.
What would settle it
An explicit numerical or analytic solution of the radial perturbation equation that exhibits exponential growth for at least one regular black-hole background in the theory would falsify the stability claim.
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read the original abstract
We study radial perturbations of static black holes with primary hair in a subfamily of degenerate higher-order scalar-tensor (DHOST) theories. We recast the equation of motion for the monopole degree of freedom into a flat radial wave equation and show that the associated operator can be extended, through appropriate boundary conditions, to a positive self-adjoint operator which ensures the stability of the radial mode. Remarkably, the coordinate choice that leads to the flat wave equation corresponds to the unitary gauge, in which the scalar field is uniform. As a result, the radial coordinate extends beyond the event horizon, into the black hole interior, in contrast with the tortoise coordinate in General Relativity. The same wave equation with the same coordinate choice applies to all solutions that are connected by disformal transformations. We also examine stealth black hole solutions, with either a constant or non constant kinetic term. In the former case, we find, to linear order, the absence of a propagating degree of freedom. In the latter case, we identify a stable radial degree of freedom, except for special values of the theory coupling constants.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper studies radial perturbations of static black holes with primary hair in a subfamily of DHOST theories. It recasts the monopole EOM into a flat radial wave equation in the unitary gauge (scalar field uniform), claims the associated spatial operator extends to a positive self-adjoint operator via suitable boundary conditions (ensuring stability), notes that this radial coordinate extends past the horizon into the interior, and shows the same equation holds for all disformally related solutions. Stealth solutions are also analyzed: constant kinetic term yields no propagating DOF to linear order, while non-constant yields a stable radial mode except for special coupling values.
Significance. If the self-adjoint extension is rigorously positive, the result supplies a concrete stability criterion for black holes carrying primary hair in this DHOST subfamily and demonstrates invariance under disformal transformations. This is a useful technical step for viability assessments of higher-order scalar-tensor theories, particularly because the unitary-gauge coordinate choice permits a global radial domain.
major comments (2)
- [Section 3 (derivation of the wave equation and operator)] The central stability claim rests on extending the radial operator (obtained after recasting the monopole EOM) to a positive self-adjoint operator. The manuscript asserts this extension exists via appropriate boundary conditions but does not supply the explicit verification of the quadratic form positivity or the domain specification (e.g., behavior at the horizon and spatial infinity). This step is load-bearing and must be shown in detail.
- [Section 3 and Section 4 (unitary gauge and disformal invariance)] The unitary gauge is stated to remain regular across the event horizon and into the interior, allowing the flat wave equation to be defined globally. No explicit check is provided that the coordinate transformation and metric functions remain non-singular for the full family of solutions connected by disformal transformations; a coordinate singularity would invalidate the self-adjoint extension argument.
minor comments (2)
- [Section 3] Notation for the radial coordinate and the inner product used for the self-adjointness statement should be introduced once and used consistently; the transition from the original radial variable to the flat-wave coordinate is not always clearly labeled.
- [Abstract] The abstract and introduction use the phrase 'remarkably' for the unitary-gauge property; this is stylistic and can be removed without loss of content.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their thorough review and valuable feedback on our manuscript concerning radial perturbations of black holes in DHOST theories. We address each major comment in detail below and will revise the manuscript accordingly to strengthen the presentation.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Section 3] The central stability claim rests on extending the radial operator (obtained after recasting the monopole EOM) to a positive self-adjoint operator. The manuscript asserts this extension exists via appropriate boundary conditions but does not supply the explicit verification of the quadratic form positivity or the domain specification (e.g., behavior at the horizon and spatial infinity). This step is load-bearing and must be shown in detail.
Authors: We agree with the referee that a detailed verification is necessary for the load-bearing step of the stability argument. The manuscript currently states that the operator can be extended to a positive self-adjoint one via suitable boundary conditions but does not include the explicit computation. In the revised version, we will add a subsection or appendix providing the explicit form of the quadratic form associated with the radial operator, demonstrate its positivity, and specify the domain including the asymptotic behaviors at the horizon and spatial infinity. This will rigorously justify the self-adjoint extension. revision: yes
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Referee: [Section 3 and Section 4] The unitary gauge is stated to remain regular across the event horizon and into the interior, allowing the flat wave equation to be defined globally. No explicit check is provided that the coordinate transformation and metric functions remain non-singular for the full family of solutions connected by disformal transformations; a coordinate singularity would invalidate the self-adjoint extension argument.
Authors: We appreciate this observation regarding the regularity across the full family of disformally related solutions. The paper demonstrates the invariance of the wave equation under disformal transformations and notes the regularity in the unitary gauge for the base solutions. However, an explicit check for non-singularity in the transformed metrics was indeed omitted. We will include in the revision an explicit verification that the coordinate transformation remains regular and the metric functions non-singular for the disformally connected family, thereby confirming the global validity of the radial domain and the self-adjoint extension. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No circularity: derivation follows from DHOST EOM and standard operator theory
full rationale
The paper's central claim is obtained by starting from the equations of motion of the chosen DHOST subfamily, recasting the monopole perturbation equation into a flat radial wave equation in unitary gauge, and then applying the standard mathematical fact that a suitable spatial operator on an appropriate domain admits a positive self-adjoint extension. This chain is self-contained; the coordinate choice and positivity follow from the theory's structure and the definition of the inner product, without any parameter fitting, renaming of known results, or load-bearing self-citations that reduce the conclusion to prior unverified inputs. The abstract and described derivation exhibit no self-definitional or fitted-input reductions.
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