The Baumslag-Gersten group and a problem of Olshanskii
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The pith
The representation of the Baumslag-Gersten one-relator group by germs of continuous functions is not faithful.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
We prove that a certain representation of the Baumslag-Gersten one-relator group BG(1,2) by germs of continuous functions is not faithful. This gives a negative answer to a problem of A. Yu. Olshanskii from 2010 (Problem 17.99 in the Kourovka Notebook).
What carries the argument
The representation of BG(1,2) by germs of continuous functions, shown to have a non-trivial kernel so that distinct elements map to the same germ.
If this is right
- The map from BG(1,2) to germs of continuous functions is not injective.
- Olshanskii's Problem 17.99 has a negative answer.
- This representation cannot distinguish all elements of the group.
- Attempts to embed or faithfully represent BG(1,2) via this construction are ruled out.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Alternative representations of BG(1,2) might still be faithful and merit separate checks.
- The obstruction found here could be tested on other one-relator groups with similar presentations.
- The result limits one avenue for studying the group's properties through local function germs.
Load-bearing premise
That the representation under study is precisely the one referenced in Olshanskii's Problem 17.99.
What would settle it
Exhibit a concrete non-identity element of BG(1,2) whose image under the representation is the identity germ.
read the original abstract
We prove that a certain representation of the Baumslag-Gersten one-relator group $\mathrm{BG}(1,2)$ by germs of continuous functions is not faithful. This gives a negative answer to a problem of A. Yu. Olshanskii from 2010 (Problem 17.99 in the Kourovka Notebook).
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper claims to prove that a specific representation of the Baumslag-Gersten one-relator group BG(1,2) by germs of continuous functions is not faithful. This is presented as a negative solution to Olshanskii's Problem 17.99 in the Kourovka Notebook.
Significance. A verified negative answer to this specific open problem would be of interest in geometric group theory, as it concerns faithfulness of representations for a well-studied one-relator group with unusual properties. However, the manuscript supplies no derivations, lemmas, or verification steps, so significance cannot be assessed beyond the bare claim.
major comments (1)
- The manuscript consists solely of the abstract claim that a proof exists; no section, equation, or argument is supplied to establish non-faithfulness of the germ representation. This renders the central claim unverifiable from the text provided.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for their review. The major comment correctly identifies that the submitted text contains only the claim without supporting arguments or derivations.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: The manuscript consists solely of the abstract claim that a proof exists; no section, equation, or argument is supplied to establish non-faithfulness of the germ representation. This renders the central claim unverifiable from the text provided.
Authors: The referee is correct. The version under review supplies no proof, lemmas, or verification steps for the non-faithfulness claim. We will prepare a revised manuscript that includes the full argument establishing that the germ representation of BG(1,2) is not faithful. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity
full rationale
The paper establishes a negative result: a specific representation of BG(1,2) by germs of continuous functions is not faithful, directly negating an external open problem posed by Olshanskii. The abstract and available context contain no equations, fitted parameters, self-definitional reductions, or load-bearing self-citations that reduce the central claim to its own inputs by construction. The derivation is presented as a direct proof against an independent benchmark and is self-contained.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (1)
- standard math Standard axioms and definitions of group theory and germs of continuous functions
Reference graph
Works this paper leans on
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[Bau69] Gilbert Baumslag,A non-cyclic one-relator group all of whose finite quotients are cyclic, J. Austral. Math. Soc.10(1969), 497–498. [MK10] V. D. Mazurov and E. I. Khukhro (eds.),Unsolved problems in group theory: The Kourovka Notebook, 17th ed., Sobolev Institute of Mathematics, Novosibirsk,
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The Baumslag-Gersten group and a problem of Olshanskii
2020Mathematics Subject Classification.20F05 (primary); 20F38 (secondary). Key words and phrases.Baumslag–Gersten group; representation by functions. The author is supported by KIAS Individual Grant HP094701 at Korea Institute for Advanced Study, and by the Mid-Career Researcher Program (RS-2023-00278510) through the National Research Foundation of Korea....
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