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Multivariate majorization of continuous statistical experiments

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Inequalities on multivariate Renyi relative entropies characterize majorization of continuous statistical experiments.

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The paper derives sufficient and almost necessary conditions for large-sample and catalytic majorization between finite statistical experiments whose sample spaces are standard Borel spaces. It does so by defining multivariate generalizations of the bivariate Renyi relative entropies and proving that inequalities among these quantities decide the majorization relations. The argument relies on real-algebraic techniques rather than large-deviation methods and also shows that every general multivariate divergence arises as a barycentre of the Renyi family. These same quantities characterize the optimal conversion rate from one experiment to another. A reader would care because the result supplies explicit, checkable criteria for when one experiment can be converted into another at scale or with catalysis, extending the reach of majorization theory from discrete to continuous settings.

Core claim

We derive sufficient and almost necessary conditions for large sample and catalytic majorization between finite statistical experiments over standard Borel sample spaces. We derive multivariate generalizations of the bivariate Renyi relative entropies and show that inequalities involving these multivariate Renyi divergences characterize large-sample and catalytic majorization of finite statistical experiments. As our methods are real-algebraic in nature, this work demonstrates that large deviation techniques are not the only option available to derive conditions for large sample majorization even in the case of more general sample spaces of the experiments. We also show that all general mult

What carries the argument

Multivariate Renyi relative entropies, whose inequalities serve as the characterizing criterion for large-sample and catalytic majorization.

If this is right

  • Large-sample majorization holds precisely when the appropriate inequalities on the multivariate Renyi divergences are satisfied.
  • Catalytic majorization is likewise decided by the same family of inequalities.
  • Every multivariate extensive and monotone map arises as a barycentre of the Renyi divergences.
  • The optimal conversion rate between two experiments is given by the Renyi quantities.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The algebraic route may permit explicit majorization checks for Gaussian or other parametric families without discretizing the sample space first.
  • The barycentre representation could be used to construct new families of divergences tailored to particular conversion problems.
  • If the extension holds, the same Renyi inequalities might decide majorization questions in continuous-time stochastic processes or in quantum statistical experiments.

Load-bearing premise

The real-algebraic methods developed for the discrete and bivariate cases extend without additional topological or measure-theoretic obstructions to the continuous multivariate setting on standard Borel spaces.

What would settle it

A concrete pair of finite statistical experiments on standard Borel spaces for which the multivariate Renyi inequalities hold but large-sample majorization fails (or the converse) would falsify the claimed characterization.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.31296 by Erkka Haapasalo.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: The multivariate divergences of Definition 9 together with the derivations ∆pkq γ of (16) depicted in the case d “ 3. The figure is contained in the affine plane of R 3 of those points whose coordinates sum up to 1. The temperate divergences are associated with the areas A` and A´ and are depicted in green. Note that, e.g., in the lower-left part of A´, we have α1 ą 1 and α2, α3 ď 0. The red arcs represent… view at source ↗
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We derive sufficient and almost necessary conditions for large sample and catalytic majorization between finite statistical experiments over standard Borel sample spaces. This work generalizes previous results, on one hand, in the bivariate case and, on the other hand, in the multivariate discrete (or, rather, finite) case, i.e., matrix majorization. We derive multivariate generalizations of the bivariate Renyi relative entropies and show that inequalities involving these multivariate Renyi divergences characterize large-sample and catalytic majorization of finite statistical experiments. As our methods are real-algebraic in nature, this work demonstrates that large deviation techniques are not the only option available to derive conditions for large sample majorization even in the case of more general sample spaces of the experiments. We also show that all general multivariate divergences, i.e., multivariate extensive and monotone maps of finite statistical experiments, can be expressed through barycentres over the set of multivariate Renyi divergences. We also show that we may characterize the optimal conversion rate of a statistical experiment into another using the multivariate Renyi divergences.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper derives sufficient and almost necessary conditions for large-sample and catalytic majorization of finite statistical experiments over standard Borel sample spaces. It introduces multivariate generalizations of the bivariate Rényi relative entropies and shows that inequalities involving these divergences characterize the majorization relations. The methods are real-algebraic; the work also establishes representation results expressing general multivariate extensive and monotone maps via barycentres over the Rényi divergences and characterizes optimal conversion rates between experiments.

Significance. If the derivations hold, the results would be significant for providing an algebraic (rather than large-deviation) route to majorization characterizations in the continuous multivariate setting, extending both the bivariate and the finite discrete cases while remaining parameter-free in the stated sense.

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  1. [Abstract (methods paragraph)] Abstract (methods paragraph): the claim that real-algebraic constructions carry over verbatim to equivalence classes of probability kernels on standard Borel spaces lacks an explicit argument that the relevant barycentre and extensive-map operations remain measurable with respect to the sigma-algebra generated by the experiments; without this, the well-definedness of the multivariate Rényi divergences and the survival of the “almost necessary” direction are not verified.

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We thank the referee for their detailed reading and for identifying a point requiring clarification in our presentation. We address the major comment below and will revise the manuscript accordingly.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract (methods paragraph)] Abstract (methods paragraph): the claim that real-algebraic constructions carry over verbatim to equivalence classes of probability kernels on standard Borel spaces lacks an explicit argument that the relevant barycentre and extensive-map operations remain measurable with respect to the sigma-algebra generated by the experiments; without this, the well-definedness of the multivariate Rényi divergences and the survival of the “almost necessary” direction are not verified.

    Authors: We acknowledge that the manuscript does not supply an explicit verification that the barycentre and extensive-map operations remain measurable when passing to equivalence classes of probability kernels on standard Borel spaces. Although the real-algebraic framework is formulated in a manner intended to be independent of the underlying measure space (via equivalence classes), the referee is correct that a dedicated argument is needed to confirm measurability with respect to the sigma-algebra generated by the experiments. In the revised version we will insert a short appendix (or subsection) that supplies this argument, relying on standard measurability results for kernels and barycentres on Polish spaces. This addition will also confirm that the “almost necessary” direction survives in the continuous setting. The algebraic core of the results is unaffected. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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Minor self-citation to bivariate/discrete priors; central real-algebraic derivation remains independent.

full rationale

The paper presents real-algebraic derivations of multivariate Renyi divergences that characterize large-sample and catalytic majorization on standard Borel spaces, generalizing prior bivariate and discrete results. No step reduces a claimed prediction or characterization to a quantity defined by the same data or by construction; the extension is framed as a direct algebraic carry-over without fitted parameters or self-referential definitions. Self-citations to earlier cases exist but are not load-bearing for the new continuous multivariate claims, which retain independent algebraic content.

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Abstract-only review; no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities are stated. The central claims rest on the existence of multivariate Renyi divergences and on the applicability of real-algebraic techniques to Borel spaces, but these are not itemized as new postulates.

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