In Situ Measurements of the Reflectances of the LSSTCam Optics and Assessing the Impact of Optical Ghosts
Pith reviewed 2026-07-01 03:01 UTC · model grok-4.3
The pith
Ray tracing simulations find optical ghosts impact 0.57% of the LSSTCam focal plane on average.
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
Using optical ray tracing simulations tuned to LSST Commissioning observations, the authors quantify the impact of optical ghosts on the LSSTCam focal plane and find that approximately 0.57% of the focal plane is impacted when averaged across all bands. In addition, they use data from the Collimated Beam Projector to measure the reflectances of various optical elements, generally confirming estimates of ~2% from the systems engineering throughput predictions.
What carries the argument
The ray tracing simulations tuned to LSST Commissioning observations, used to model the locations and impacts of optical ghosts caused by reflections between optical surfaces.
If this is right
- Low-surface-brightness science with LSST will require accounting for ghost contamination over about 0.57% of the focal plane area on average.
- The confirmed reflectance values of ~2% provide a validated input for future modeling of the optical system.
- Ghost patterns identified in the simulations can be used to develop mitigation strategies in data processing.
- These results set a quantitative baseline for the contribution of ghosts to data quality in the LSST survey.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- Data processing pipelines could incorporate masks based on the simulated ghost locations to reduce contamination.
- Similar in-situ reflectance measurements and simulations could be applied to other wide-field survey instruments to assess ghost impacts.
- Variations in ghost impact with different filter bands or observing conditions could be explored in follow-up work.
Load-bearing premise
The ray tracing simulations are accurately tuned to match LSST Commissioning observations and the Collimated Beam Projector measurements represent the in-situ reflectances of the full optical system.
What would settle it
A comparison between the simulated ghost-affected regions and actual observed artifacts in LSST images that shows the affected area percentage differing significantly from 0.57%.
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read the original abstract
Optical ghosts are image artifacts caused by successive reflections of light between optical surfaces such as lenses, filters, and detectors. These artifacts are unavoidable due to the nonzero reflectances of optical elements and are a major source of contamination for low-surface-brightness science. We use optical ray tracing simulations tuned to observations from LSST Commissioning to quantify the impact of optical ghosts on the LSST data. In particular, we find that ~0.57% of the LSSTCam focal plane is impacted by optical ghosts when averaged across all bands. We also use data from the Collimated Beam Projector to measure the reflectances of various optical elements, generally confirming estimates of ~2% from the systems engineering throughput predictions.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper reports in-situ reflectance measurements of LSSTCam optics using the Collimated Beam Projector, generally confirming the ~2% values from systems engineering throughput predictions. It additionally employs optical ray-tracing simulations tuned to LSST Commissioning observations to quantify optical ghost impact, finding that ~0.57% of the focal plane is affected when averaged across all bands.
Significance. If the central result holds, the work supplies a directly measured anchor for ghost contamination levels relevant to low-surface-brightness science with LSST. The Collimated Beam Projector measurements constitute an independent, in-situ check on the optical model and are a clear strength of the manuscript.
major comments (2)
- [Simulation and tuning description] The ray-tracing simulations are stated to be tuned to LSST Commissioning observations, yet no quantitative tuning diagnostics (residual maps, χ² values, goodness-of-fit metrics, or parameter covariance) or propagation of tuning-parameter uncertainties into the final 0.57% ghost fraction are described. This is load-bearing for the headline claim.
- [Reflectance measurement and model anchoring] The Collimated Beam Projector reflectance measurements (~2%) are used to anchor the model, but the manuscript does not demonstrate that these lab values, obtained under specific illumination conditions, reproduce the observed in-situ ghost patterns across the full range of field angles and wavelengths present in the commissioning data.
minor comments (1)
- [Abstract] The abstract states the 0.57% figure without accompanying error bars, sample sizes, or exclusion criteria; these should be supplied for a complete summary.
Simulated Author's Rebuttal
We thank the referee for the thoughtful review and for highlighting areas where additional detail would strengthen the manuscript. We address each major comment below and will incorporate the suggested improvements in the revised version.
read point-by-point responses
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Referee: [Simulation and tuning description] The ray-tracing simulations are stated to be tuned to LSST Commissioning observations, yet no quantitative tuning diagnostics (residual maps, χ² values, goodness-of-fit metrics, or parameter covariance) or propagation of tuning-parameter uncertainties into the final 0.57% ghost fraction are described. This is load-bearing for the headline claim.
Authors: We agree that quantitative diagnostics for the tuning process are important to support the headline result. The revised manuscript will include residual maps, χ² values, and other goodness-of-fit metrics from the tuning to commissioning data, along with a discussion of how uncertainties in the tuning parameters propagate into the reported 0.57% ghost fraction. revision: yes
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Referee: [Reflectance measurement and model anchoring] The Collimated Beam Projector reflectance measurements (~2%) are used to anchor the model, but the manuscript does not demonstrate that these lab values, obtained under specific illumination conditions, reproduce the observed in-situ ghost patterns across the full range of field angles and wavelengths present in the commissioning data.
Authors: The Collimated Beam Projector measurements provide independent in-situ confirmation of the ~2% reflectance values. While these anchor the optical model used in the simulations, we acknowledge that an explicit demonstration of consistency with observed ghost patterns would be valuable. The revised manuscript will add direct comparisons between the model predictions (using the measured reflectances) and the ghost features seen in the commissioning data across the relevant range of field angles and wavelengths. revision: yes
Circularity Check
No significant circularity; ghost fraction derived from independent measurements and simulations
full rationale
The paper derives the ~0.57% focal-plane ghost impact from ray-tracing simulations tuned to LSST Commissioning observations and reflectance values measured directly with the Collimated Beam Projector. No equations, self-citations, or fitted-parameter renamings are shown that reduce the reported percentage to its inputs by construction. The Collimated Beam Projector data and commissioning observations function as external inputs rather than tautological outputs, satisfying the criteria for a self-contained result against external benchmarks.
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