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A faint Type IIb supernova came from a compact, binary-stripped helium star with almost no leftover hydrogen and only weak nickel mixing.

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arxiv 2607.10671 v1 pith:TK4URXAT submitted 2026-07-12 astro-ph.SR astro-ph.HE

SN 2025aico: Early observations of a faint Type IIb supernova with a low-mass envelope

J.-W. Zhao , A. Pastorello , B. Kumar , Y.-Z. Cai , A. Dutta , D. K. Sahu , A. Reguitti , R. S. Teja
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H. Das T. J. Moriya N. Pyykkinen K. Valeckas G. Valerin X.-Z. Zou C. Ashall S. Bijavara Seshashayana G.-W. Du G. C. Anupama A. L. Bouquin S. Campana K. Chatterjee X.-L. Chen X.-L. Du N. Elias-Rosa Y. Fang M. Fraser W. Hoogendam E. Hsiao E. Kankare E. P. Lagioia W.-Y. Li X.-K. Liu P. Lundqvist K. Matilainen J. Martikainen K. Medler N. Morrell Y. Pan C. Pfeffer G. Rameshan T. M. Reynolds M. D. Stritzinger V. Vuolteenaho Z.-Y. Wang H.-F. Xiao J.-H. Zhang X.-W. Liu Y.-P. Yang
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keywords Type IIb supernovastripped-envelope supernovashock-cooling emissionnickel mixingbinary progenitorhelium starlight-curve modelling
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The paper reports early multi-band light curves and spectra of SN 2025aico, a nearby faint Type IIb supernova, and uses them to measure the explosion and the star that exploded. A hybrid light-curve model that adds a brief shock-cooling phase to radioactive diffusion, together with colour, velocity and spectral comparisons, yields a low nickel mass, moderate ejecta mass, and a thin residual hydrogen envelope of only about 0.01 solar masses around a compact helium core. Colour and helium-line behaviour both point to weak-to-moderate mixing of radioactive nickel into the outer ejecta. The numbers match a moderate-mass helium star that was stripped by a close binary companion rather than by a strong wind. The result adds a well-observed example of how little hydrogen can remain on a stripped-envelope progenitor and how that residual envelope shapes the early light curve and spectrum.

Core claim

SN 2025aico is a faint Type IIb supernova whose early light curve and spectra are produced by a compact helium-star progenitor that retained only a minimal hydrogen envelope (roughly 0.01 solar masses, radius 6–10 solar radii) and exploded with low nickel mass and only weak-to-moderate nickel mixing, implying origin in a close binary system via Case B mass transfer.

What carries the argument

A hybrid bolometric light-curve model that simultaneously fits early shock-cooling emission (Piro and Sapir–Waxman formalisms) and the later radioactively powered diffusion-plus-recombination component (Arnett–Fu), with photospheric velocity fixed from Fe II λ5169 and nickel mixing constrained by colour and line evolution.

Load-bearing premise

The optical opacity is fixed at the single value typical of helium-rich ejecta; changing that one number moves the derived ejecta mass by almost a factor of two and therefore changes the inferred pre-supernova mass that underpins the binary-stripping claim.

What would settle it

A higher-cadence early multi-band campaign that independently measures both the blackbody temperature and luminosity during the first few days, or a late-time nebular spectrum that yields an independent nickel mass and hydrogen abundance, would confirm or rule out the derived envelope mass, radius and mixing level.

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If this is right

  • SN 2025aico joins the growing class of compact Type IIb events whose residual hydrogen is only a few hundredths of a solar mass, tightening the continuum between Type IIb and Type Ib progenitors.
  • Weak nickel mixing is required for the brief shock-cooling peak to remain visible; early colour and helium-line evolution therefore become practical diagnostics of mixing depth in stripped-envelope supernovae.
  • The low host metallicity favours binary stripping over wind stripping for stars of this mass, supporting short-period Case B channels for compact helium-star progenitors.
  • Recombination of helium contributes measurably to the rapid post-peak decline, so light-curve models of Type IIb events must include a recombination term to recover accurate nickel and ejecta masses.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • If other faint, short-shock-cooling Type IIb events share the same low envelope mass and weak mixing, the compact-binary channel may dominate the low-luminosity end of the Type IIb population.
  • The same early-colour and helium-line diagnostics used here could be applied systematically to the next generation of multi-band surveys to map the distribution of nickel mixing across the stripped-envelope sequence.
  • An independent nebular-phase abundance analysis would break the remaining opacity degeneracy and test whether the pre-supernova mass really lies below the single-star wind-stripping threshold.

Editorial analysis

A structured set of objections, weighed in public.

Desk editor's note, referee report, simulated authors' rebuttal, and a circularity audit.

Referee Report

2 major / 6 minor

Summary. The manuscript presents early multi-band optical/UV photometry and a dense low-resolution spectroscopic sequence of the Type IIb SN 2025aico spanning ~70 days from explosion. Explosion epoch, rise times, and a pseudo-bolometric light curve are derived; a hybrid model combining shock-cooling (Piro 2015; Sapir & Waxman 2017) with radioactively powered diffusion plus recombination (Arnett & Fu 1989) yields M_Ni = 0.033^{+0.006}_{-0.004} M_⊙, M_ej = 2.79^{+0.21}_{-0.18} M_⊙, and a compact residual H-rich envelope (M_env ≈ 0.01–0.02 M_⊙, R_env ≈ 6–10 R_⊙). Orthogonal diagnostics (U-shaped early colour evolution, non-monotonic Fe II velocity and T_BB, temporary disappearance of He I P-Cygni absorption) indicate weak-to-moderate 56Ni mixing. The authors conclude that the progenitor was a moderate-mass stripped He star in a compact binary system.

Significance. If the derived parameters hold, SN 2025aico supplies a well-observed faint compact Type IIb with an unusually low residual hydrogen envelope, tightening empirical constraints on binary mass-transfer pathways that produce cIIb events and on the role of 56Ni mixing in early SE-SN evolution. Strengths include consistent results from two independent shock-cooling formalisms, a tail-luminosity cross-check on M_Ni, multi-diagnostic mixing constraints, SYNAPPS line identification, and host-metallicity estimates supporting the binary channel. The data set is of high quality and the modelling is transparent.

major comments (2)
  1. Sect. 3.4 and Table B.3: the radioactively powered fit adopts a fixed optical opacity κ_opt = 0.07 cm² g⁻¹ (typical for He-rich ejecta). The authors correctly note that varying this single choice moves M_ej from ~1.5 to ~2.8 M_⊙. Because the upper limit M_preSN ≲ 4.5 M_⊙ is the load-bearing argument used to prefer binary stripping over single-star winds (Sect. 5.4), the manuscript should explicitly propagate the opacity range into M_preSN and re-evaluate the comparison with the Yoon et al. (2017) LMC-metallicity models at both ends of that range.
  2. Sect. 2: the distance D_L = 21.5 Mpc is adopted from the Tully–Fisher relation without a reported uncertainty, and systematic errors are neglected. L_opt and therefore M_Ni scale directly with D_L². A quantitative statement of how a plausible distance uncertainty (or a factor-of-two shift) would affect the derived M_Ni and the comparison sample is needed to confirm that the low-luminosity and low-M_Ni conclusions remain robust.
minor comments (6)
  1. Abstract vs. Sect. 3.4 / Conclusions: the abstract quotes M_env ≈ 0.01 M_⊙ while the P15/SW17 fits give 0.017–0.018 M_⊙ and the conclusions state ≈ 0.02 M_⊙. Harmonise the quoted envelope mass.
  2. Sect. 3.1 and Fig. 2: early optical coverage is sparse; the first bolometric point is scaled from the L-band using a Swift-derived temperature. A brief note on the systematic uncertainty introduced by this scaling would help the reader.
  3. Fig. 3 and Sect. 3.2: the Moriya et al. (2020) mixing models assume M_Ni = 0.05 M_⊙, higher than the value derived for SN 2025aico. The late-time colour discrepancy is attributed to this difference, but a short quantitative remark on how the lower M_Ni affects the model comparison would strengthen the mixing argument.
  4. Sect. 4.3 / Fig. 8: the high-velocity Hα component and the temporary absence of He I absorption are well described, yet the possible contribution of Si II blending is mentioned only briefly. A one-sentence clarification of why the HV-H interpretation is preferred would remove residual ambiguity.
  5. Throughout: minor English polishing (e.g., “the fitting yields”, “we note that as the mixing becomes stronger”) and consistent use of “r_M-band” versus “rM-band” would improve readability.
  6. Table B.1: phases are given relative to r_M maximum; adding a column relative to the adopted explosion epoch would facilitate comparison with the light-curve models.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: parameters are obtained by sequential fitting of external physical models (Arnett & Fu 1989, Piro 2015, Sapir & Waxman 2017, Moriya et al. 2020) to independent multi-band photometry and spectroscopy.

full rationale

The derivation chain is standard observational astrophysics. Explosion epoch is the midpoint of last non-detection and first detection. Bolometric light-curve parameters (M_Ni, M_ej, A_γ, T_rec) are obtained by nested sampling of the Arnett & Fu (1989) hybrid diffusion+recombination model for t ≳ 5 d, with a Gaussian prior on v_ej taken from the independent Fe II λ5169 absorption measurement near peak; optical opacity is fixed at the conventional He-rich value κ_opt = 0.07 cm² g⁻¹ (authors explicitly note the resulting M_ej range 1.5–2.8 M_⊙). Early multi-band data are then fit with the external shock-cooling formulae of Piro (2015) and Sapir & Waxman (2017), using the previous M_ej posterior only as a Gaussian prior. ⁵⁶Ni-mixing conclusions rest on three orthogonal, model-independent diagnostics (U-shaped early colour curve, non-monotonic Fe II velocity and T_BB, temporary disappearance of He I P-Cygni absorption) compared against published Moriya et al. (2020) grids. Progenitor orbital-period bounds come from direct spectral comparison to published Dessart et al. (2024) and Yoon et al. (2017) grids. No quantity is defined in terms of itself, no fitted parameter is re-labelled a prediction, and self-citations (e.g. Zhao et al. 2026) are used only for comparison objects, not as load-bearing uniqueness theorems. The fixed-opacity systematic is a modelling uncertainty, not circularity.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

6 free parameters · 6 axioms · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on standard radiative-transfer and light-curve models taken from the literature, a handful of fixed microphysical parameters (opacity, recombination temperature range), an adopted distance without reported error, and the usual assumption that host extinction is negligible. No new physical entities are postulated; free parameters are the usual explosion and envelope quantities fitted to the data.

free parameters (6)
  • M_Ni = 0.033 +0.006/-0.004 M_sun
    Nickel mass fitted to the radioactively powered portion of the bolometric light curve and cross-checked on the tail.
  • M_ej = 2.79 +0.21/-0.18 M_sun
    Ejecta mass fitted jointly with velocity prior; strongly degenerate with the fixed opacity.
  • M_env = ≈0.017–0.018 M_sun
    Envelope mass from multi-band shock-cooling fits (Piro and Sapir–Waxman).
  • R_env = 6–10 R_sun
    Envelope radius from the same shock-cooling fits.
  • A_γ (γ-ray leakage timescale) = ≈4000 day²
    Characteristic leakage parameter fitted to the post-peak decline.
  • T_rec (recombination temperature) = 11.1 +0.8/-0.7 kK
    Fitted recombination temperature in the hybrid Arnett–Fu model.
axioms (6)
  • domain assumption Optical opacity of He-rich ejecta is κ_opt = 0.07 cm² g⁻¹
    Fixed in Sect. 3.4; authors note that changing it moves M_ej by a factor of ~2.
  • domain assumption Host-galaxy extinction is zero (E(B–V)_Host = 0)
    Justified by non-detection of Na I D; adopted throughout the analysis (Sect. 2).
  • domain assumption Distance D_L = 21.5 Mpc from Tully–Fisher relation with no uncertainty
    Adopted in Sect. 2; systematic error neglected, affecting all luminosities and masses.
  • domain assumption Hybrid light-curve model of Arnett & Fu (1989) plus Piro (2015) / Sapir & Waxman (2017) shock-cooling correctly describes the early and peak emission
    Core modelling framework of Sect. 3.4; recombination term is required to fit the rapid post-peak decline.
  • domain assumption 56Ni-mixing grids of Moriya et al. (2020) and spectral models of Dessart et al. (2024) / Yoon et al. (2017) are applicable to this event
    Used for colour, velocity and progenitor-period comparisons (Sects. 3.2, 4.3, 5.4).
  • ad hoc to paper Initial core radius R_0 = 10^11 cm and thermal energy E_th = 10^50 erg can be fixed without affecting the fit
    Stated in Sect. 3.4 to ensure numerical convergence; authors claim results are insensitive.

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We aimed to investigate the physical properties and the underlying explosion mechanisms of the Type IIb SN 2025aico. Through a comprehensive analysis of early-phase optical light curves and spectroscopic data, we aim to constrain the fundamental explosion parameters and evaluate the physical state of the event. We present early multi-band optical imaging and low-resolution optical spectroscopic follow-up observations of the Type IIb SN 2025aico, spanning approximately 70 days from the explosion. We constrain the properties of SN 2025aico by utilizing a hybrid model that combines shock-cooling emission and radioactively powered diffusion, as well as by analyzing the spectroscopic evolution. We use various approaches to constrain the 56Ni mixing from early data, and also compared our spectra with models to constrain the properties of the progenitor. The explosion epoch of SN 2025aico is estimated to be MJD 61032.69, while the rise time in the r_M-band is 22.30 +/- 0.70 days. The peak pseudo-bolometric luminosity in the optical bands is L_opt = (4.07 +/- 0.10) x 10^41 erg/s. The fitting yields a moderate to relatively low 56Ni mass of M_Ni = 0.033 +0.006/-0.004 M_sun and an ejecta mass of M_ej = 2.79 +0.21/-0.18 M_sun. The photospheric velocity near the bolometric peak, measured from the Fe II lambda 5169 line, is 6450 +180/-160 km/s. The derived envelope properties suggest a compact He-star progenitor possessing an H-rich envelope of M_env approx. 0.01 M_sun and a radius of R_env approx. 6-10 R_sun. The derived physical properties of SN 2025aico indicate an origin from a moderate-mass, stripped He-star in a compact binary system, characterized by a minimal residual hydrogen envelope. The explosion itself demonstrates weak to moderate 56Ni mixing throughout the ejecta.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2607.10671 by A. Dutta, A. L. Bouquin, A. Pastorello, A. Reguitti, B. Kumar, C. Ashall, C. Pfeffer, D. K. Sahu, E. Hsiao, E. Kankare, E. P. Lagioia, G. C. Anupama, G. Rameshan, G. Valerin, G.-W. Du, H. Das, H.-F. Xiao, J.-H. Zhang, J. Martikainen, J.-W. Zhao, K. Chatterjee, K. Matilainen, K. Medler, K. Valeckas, M. D. Stritzinger, M. Fraser, N. Elias-Rosa, N. Morrell, N. Pyykkinen, P. Lundqvist, R. S. Teja, S. Bijavara Seshashayana, S. Campana, T. J. Moriya, T. M. Reynolds, V. Vuolteenaho, W. Hoogendam, W.-Y. Li, X.-K. Liu, X.-L. Chen, X.-L. Du, X.-W. Liu, X.-Z. Zou, Y. Fang, Y. Pan, Y.-P. Yang, Y.-Z. Cai, Z.-Y. Wang.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: An rM band optical image of SN 2025aico, the potential host dwarf galaxy LEDA 35384, along with IC 700, obtained by the Multi￾channel Photometric Survey Telescope (Mephisto; Yuan et al. 2020). The red cross at the centre marks the position of the SN, and the blue circles indicate the stars for future blind-offset acquisition. The light green square marked the possible host galaxy in the plot. The position … view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Multi-band UV and optical apparent light curve of SN 2025aico. The dashed verti￾cal line refers to the time of the rM-band max￾imum luminosity. The vertical red lines at the top mark the epochs of the spectra. Upper lim￾its are plotted with empty symbols with arrows. The light curves for different filters are shifted and marked with different colours. The early NUV and UV data obtained from Swift/UVOT are … view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Colour evolution of SN 2025aico compared with models with different degrees of 56Ni mixing (labelled with different colours). The gray region marks the shock-cooling phase of SN 2025aico. 20 10 0 10 20 30 40 50 Phases from r/rM-band maximum [days] 40.5 41.0 41.5 42.0 42.5 43.0 lo g10(L B ol / erg s 1 ) SN 1993J SN 2008ax SN 2011ei SN 2011fu SN 2011hs SN 2022ngb SN 2024aecx SN 2025aico [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:fig… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Pseudo-bolometric light curve of SN 2025aico compared with those of other SNe IIb. All light curves are corrected for reddening. Phases are relative to either the r-band or the rM-band maximum. for SE SNe (Clocchiatti & Wheeler 1997; Chatzopoulos et al. 2012). Taking this leakage into account, the total luminosity can be written as L = Lrd × (1 − e −τγ ) + 4πr 2 recQρ(rrec, t) drrec dt . (1) Here, τγ is th… view at source ↗
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: The spectral sequence of SN 2025aico. Prominent spectral lines are marked with coloured dashed lines at each rest wavelength. The marked phases are calculated from the rM-band maximum. The telluric lines are indicated with encircled plus symbols. Data from different telescopes are presented with different colours. Some spectra with low S/N were smoothed with a Savitzky-Golay filter, and the original spectr… view at source ↗
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: synapps models compared with SN 2025aico spectra. The mod￾els are over-plotted with red lines. The green region marks the narrow Hα emission line from the host galaxy, which is the only one marked narrow emission line from the host. Phases are calculated from the rM￾band maximum. out the subsequent evolution, which is consistent with typical SNe IIb (e.g., see the velocities evolution in Medler et al. 2022… view at source ↗
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: Comparisons between spectra of SN 2025aico with those of other SNe IIb/Ib obtained at similar phases. Prominent spectral features are marked with dashed lines having different colours. Phases are cal￾culated from the explosion epoch. During the pre-peak rising phase (−14.9 ≲ t ≲ 0 days), when the contribution from shock-cooling is weak and the light curve is dominated by the radioactive heating, we note th… view at source ↗
Figure 10
Figure 10. Figure 10: Comparisons of the envelope properties of SN 2025aico with other SNe IIb, overplotted with models of Ouchi & Maeda (2017). Dif￾ferent events were plotted in different colours. The same events with different models were plotted with the same colours and different mark￾ers. limit of 2.5 × 10−3 cts s−1 . Assuming a power law spectrum with a photon index of Γ = 2 and the Galactic column density of 1.3× 1020 c… view at source ↗
Figure 11
Figure 11. Figure 11: Evolution of He i λ5876 and He i λ7065 lines. The zero velocity (coincident with the rest wavelength of the transition) is marked with dashed lines. The phases from the rM-band maximum are reported on the right side of each panel, close to the corresponding spectra. The weak mixing scenario can explain at the same time the absence of the He i P Cygni absorption and the peculiar emission profile following … view at source ↗
Figure 12
Figure 12. Figure 12: Comparisons of peak spectra of SN 2025aico with synthetic spectra models from Dessart et al. (2024) with different orbital period. Different models are overplotted with different colors, as shown in the legend. The epoch is calculated from the explosion epoch. riod would be consistent with approximately 600 days. However, we noticed that the residual H-rich envelope in the log2p80 model is much more massi… view at source ↗

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