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Tropical Circuits with Scalar Multiplication Gates
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Pith's one-line read Scalar multiplications do not shrink tropical circuits for perfect matchings or directed spanning trees; monotone maxout nets stay exponential.
desk verdict Solid exponential lower bounds for tropical circuits with positive scalars, plus the first clean mnnc-vs-nnc separation for natural polytopes. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
A polytopal Decomposition Lemma: any small scalar tropical circuit writes the target polytope as the convex hull of a few Minkowski sums A_i + B_i in which each A_i is simple under a carefully chosen measure; for the two polytopes those simple sums contain only an exponentially small fraction of the vertices.
What would settle it
Exhibit a scalar tropical circuit of size 2^{o(n)} for either the Birkhoff or the directed spanning-tree support function, or prove that no such circuit exists by showing a matching exponential lower bound that accounts for fractional vertices under the same measures.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
Even after positive scalar multiplications are allowed, every scalar tropical circuit for the support functions of the Birkhoff polytope and of the directed spanning-tree polytope requires 2^Ω(n) plus gates. Consequently the monotone neural-network complexities of both polytopes are exponential, while the unrestricted neural-network complexity of the directed spanning-tree polytope is only O(n^{3}).
Load-bearing premise
The chosen measures still force every Minkowski sum that can appear in a small circuit to contain only an exponentially small fraction of the target vertices, even after fractional points are created by scalar multiplications.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces scalar tropical circuits (STCs): tropical (max,+) circuits augmented by positive scalar multiplications. It proves that any STC computing the support function of the Birkhoff polytope P_PERM (or of the directed spanning-tree polytope P_DST) requires 2^Ω(n) plus gates (Theorems 1.1–1.2). The proofs rest on a polytopal Decomposition Lemma (Lemma 3.5) that writes the target polytope as a convex hull of a small number of Minkowski sums of “simple” polytopes with respect to carefully chosen measures μ_M and μ_A, followed by structural lemmas showing that any vertex-realizing rectangle with intermediate measure contains only an exponentially small fraction of the 0-1 vertices. As corollaries one obtains exponential lower bounds on the monotone neural-network complexity mnnc of both polytopes, while nnc(P_DST) remains O(n^{3}) via tropicalization of a known subtraction-free circuit, yielding the first exponential separation between monotone/input-convex maxout networks and unrestricted ones.
Significance. The work cleanly isolates the power of positive scalar multiplications inside tropical circuits and shows that they do not help for two classical combinatorial polytopes that already possess polynomial extension complexity. The resulting exponential gap between mnnc and nnc for directed spanning trees is the first of its kind and directly answers an open question about the cost of enforced convexity constraints in neural-network models. The Decomposition Lemma and the measure-based counting arguments are reusable tools that strengthen the classical tropical-circuit lower-bound technique of Jerrum–Snir and Jukna. The manuscript is self-contained, the proofs are complete, and the constants in the exponents are explicitly compared with the classical bounds.
minor comments (5)
- Page 7 (Outlook): the comparison of the new constants (c≈0.918 for P_PERM, 9/7 for P_DST) with the classical ones of Jerrum–Snir is useful; a short remark whether the same measures can recover the classical constants under the additional restriction to integral vertices would be welcome.
- Lemma 3.5: the inductive construction of Φ_{-v} (deletion of scalar gates with no input, contraction of unary max gates) is correct but a bit terse; a one-sentence reminder that the monomial coefficient vectors of the surviving traces are unchanged would help the reader.
- Figure 5: the greyed-out gates and the dashed arc that appears after contraction are helpful; labelling the new input gate x_{d+1} more prominently would make the figure self-explanatory.
- Proposition 4.5 / 5.5: the O(n 2^n) upper bounds are classical; citing the precise dynamic-programming recurrences already given by Jerrum–Snir (or Jukna) would avoid the impression that they are new.
- Throughout: the notation size+(Φ) is introduced early and used consistently; a single sentence in the preliminaries reminding the reader that scalar gates are never counted would eliminate any residual ambiguity.
Circularity Check
No circularity: lower bounds follow from an independent polytopal decomposition lemma plus combinatorial counting on rectangles of the target 0-1 polytopes.
full rationale
The derivation chain is self-contained combinatorial circuit complexity. The Decomposition Lemma (Lemma 3.5) is proved by induction on circuit size using only the axioms of a measure (subadditivity under Minkowski sum and convex hull, invariance under dilation). The concrete measures μ_M and μ_A are defined directly from node supports of vertices and are verified to be measures (Propositions 4.3, 5.3). The subsequent rectangle lemmas (4.1–4.4, 5.1–5.4) establish structural constraints (constant node weights a*, bipartition of support, arc-set size bound) that hold for any vertex-realizing rectangle inside P_PERM or P_DST, including those with fractional vertices produced by scalar multiplications; the counting arguments then force exponentially many summands. These steps do not define the target size in terms of itself, do not fit parameters to data, and do not import uniqueness or an ansatz from overlapping-author citations. Prior self-citations ([HL24], [HS25], etc.) supply only background definitions (nnc/mnnc) or the known polynomial upper bound for nnc(P_DST) via tropicalization of an external (+,×,/)-circuit; they are not load-bearing for the exponential lower bounds. The paper therefore contains no circular reduction.
Assumptions & free parameters
assumptions (3)
- standard math Support functions of polytopes are closed under max, Minkowski sum and positive dilation, and every positively homogeneous convex CPWL function arises this way (standard duality).
- standard math The Birkhoff polytope and directed spanning-tree polytope admit the classical half-space descriptions with degree and subtour-elimination inequalities.
- domain assumption A bias-free monotone rank-k maxout network of size s can be simulated by an STC of size O(ks^{2} + ksd).
invented entities (2)
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Scalar tropical circuit (STC)
independent evidence
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Measures μ_M and μ_A
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Pith. "Pith review of Tropical Circuits with Scalar Multiplication Gates." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/QNTQRM7A
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abstract
We study tropical circuits with scalar multiplication gates, that is, algebraic circuits whose gates implement $\max$, $+$, or multiplication with a positive constant. For such circuits, we prove exponential size lower bounds for computing maximum weight directed spanning trees and maximum weight bipartite perfect matchings. As a corollary, we obtain an exponential size separation between monotone and non-monotone maxout neural networks, which generalize the popularly used ReLU neural networks. One conclusion from this is that neural network models with enforced convexity constraints, such as input-convex neural networks (ICNNs), sometimes need to be exponentially larger than their unrestricted counterparts in order to express the same functions.
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