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SN 2022xus shows properties of both Type IIP and IIL supernovae, making it a transitional event between the two subclasses.

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load-bearing objection A well-observed, transitional IIP/IIL candidate whose photometry holds up, but the key Hα a/e ratio it leans on is never actually reported — the spectroscopic half of the argument needs work. the 2 major comments →

arxiv 2607.25323 v1 pith:VITN4VHV submitted 2026-07-28 astro-ph.HE

SN 2022xus: bridging the gap between Type IIP and IIL supernovae

Monalisa Dubey , Kuntal Misra , Naveen Dukiya , Kumar Pranshu , Raya Dastidar , K. Azalee Bostroem , Yize Dong , Joseph R. Farah
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Estefania Padilla Gonzalez Emily Hoang D. Andrew Howell Curtis McCully Megan Newsome Craig Pellegrino Aravind Pazhayath Ravi Nicolas Meza Retamal Ajay Kumar Singh Giacomo Terreran Stefano Valenti
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keywords SN 2022xusType II supernovaType IIPType IILH-alpha absorption-to-emission ratioplateau decline rateprogenitor massCSM interaction
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This paper analyzes the optical photometry and spectroscopy of SN 2022xus, a Type II supernova caught about a day after explosion. It shows that the supernova's light curve has a plateau lasting about 95 days but declining at a rate of 1.23 mag per 100 days, steeper than typical Type IIP supernovae and closer to Type IIL. Its early spectra show weak circumstellar interaction, and a small H-alpha absorption-to-emission ratio suggests a relatively thin hydrogen envelope. The authors conclude that SN 2022xus cannot be cleanly classified as either Type IIP or IIL and instead represents a transitional event, supporting the view that these two classes form a continuum rather than a strict dichotomy.

Core claim

SN 2022xus is a Type II supernova that exhibits a hybrid of photometric and spectroscopic characteristics of both Type IIP and Type IIL supernovae. It reaches a V-band peak of -16.32 mag at about 7 days, then shows a plateau lasting 94.80 ± 0.44 days with a decline rate of 1.23 ± 0.07 mag per 100 days. The early-time spectra display broad features and a 'ledge' signature consistent with weak CSM interaction, while the H-alpha absorption-to-emission (a/e) ratio is smaller than typical Type IIP events, implying a relatively low hydrogen envelope mass. Nebular spectroscopy and light-curve modelling converge on a progenitor mass of 12–15 M_sun. Because the steep plateau decline and low a/e ratio

What carries the argument

The central diagnostic is the H-alpha absorption-to-emission (a/e) ratio, used as a proxy for the hydrogen envelope mass at explosion, combined with the V-band plateau decline rate (S_V). The paper shows that SN 2022xus falls in the S_V–a/e plane between the two subclasses, and its early 'ledge' feature and broad lines indicate weak CSM interaction. These two observables together carry the argument that the photometric steep decline is physically connected to a thin hydrogen envelope rather than to an intrinsically brighter or more massive explosion.

Load-bearing premise

The paper assumes that the small H-alpha absorption-to-emission ratio directly measures a thin hydrogen envelope at explosion, but it never reports the measured a/e value or its uncertainty, and the same early-time spectral features could arise from line blending rather than a genuinely low hydrogen mass.

What would settle it

A high-resolution spectrum of SN 2022xus during the plateau phase that resolves the H-alpha absorption component would settle whether the low a/e ratio is intrinsic or an artifact of line blending; if the resolved absorption is comparable to normal Type IIP supernovae, the thin-envelope interpretation fails.

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If this is right

  • If the transition is real, the IIP/IIL classification becomes a continuous parameter (decline rate, a/e ratio) rather than a binary split, aligning with statistical studies that show no distinct progenitor populations.
  • The progenitor mass of 12–15 M_sun with a relatively thin hydrogen envelope suggests that mass loss, not just initial mass, plays a key role in shaping the observed subclass.
  • The weak CSM interaction inferred from early spectra implies that even a low-density confined CSM can produce spectral signatures mimicking higher-mass-loss environments, complicating interpretation of early-time features.
  • The plateau length and decline rate of SN 2022xus resemble those of known Type IIL objects such as SN 2013ej, reinforcing that historical IIL events may be drawn from the same underlying population as IIPs.
  • High-cadence early-time spectroscopy is crucial for capturing the signatures needed to place such transitional events, motivating more intensive follow-up of nearby Type II supernovae.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The interpretation of the a/e ratio as a direct tracer of hydrogen envelope mass is the load-bearing step; if line blending or asphericity produces the small ratio, SN 2022xus could be a normal IIP with an unusual line profile. A high-resolution spectrum of the plateau phase that resolves the H-alpha P-Cygni profile would discriminate between these possibilities.
  • A natural extension of the paper's conclusion is that large transient surveys should replace discrete IIP/IIL labels with continuous metrics such as decline rate and a/e, which would automatically reclassify many known events and sharpen tests of the continuum hypothesis.
  • The proposed mass range of 12–15 M_sun with a thin hydrogen envelope seems at odds with the standard expectation that thin envelopes arise from strong mass loss; reconcile this may require binary stripping, pulsationally enhanced winds, or a different mass-loss history, none of which the paper explicitly explores.
  • The weak but detectable CSM interaction in the first spectrum suggests that even a small amount of circumstellar material can leave an imprint; quantifying the mass-loss rate from these features could connect the early-time signature to the light-curve decline, providing a test of the envelope-mass interpretation.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper presents optical photometry and spectroscopy of the Type II supernova SN 2022xus from about 2 to 422 days after explosion. The authors measure a peak V-band magnitude of -16.32 mag, a plateau duration of 94.80 ± 0.44 d, a plateau decline rate of 1.23 ± 0.07 mag (100 d)^-1, and a 56Ni mass of ~0.015 M_sun. They interpret early-time broad features as weak CSM interaction, use nebular spectroscopy and light-curve modelling to infer a 12-15 M_sun progenitor, and compare the SN to literature samples of IIP and IIL supernovae. On the basis of the steep decline rate and a smaller H-alpha absorption-to-emission ratio than typical IIPs, they classify SN 2022xus as a transitional event between Type IIP and Type IIL, supporting a continuum between these classes.

Significance. If the transitional classification is robust, SN 2022xus provides a well-sampled, intermediate object that strengthens the existing statistical evidence that the IIP/IIL distinction is not a clean dichotomy. The paper's strengths include dense multi-band photometry, early and late spectroscopy, comparison to external model grids (Dessart et al., Jäger et al., REDBACK/STELLA), and explicit parameter tables. The dataset and modelling are a useful contribution to the ongoing discussion of SN II diversity, regardless of how the final classification is worded.

major comments (2)
  1. [§5, Fig. 13] The H-alpha absorption-to-emission ratio (a/e) is a central piece of spectroscopic evidence for a thin hydrogen envelope and the IIL-like side of the transitional claim, but no numerical value, uncertainty, or measurement epoch is reported in the text or tables. Only a single point appears in Fig. 13 (and again in Fig. 14). Please report a/e with its definition, epoch, and uncertainty, and compare it directly to the Gutiérrez et al. (2014) measurements. Without this, the claim that SN 2022xus has a 'comparatively thin hydrogen envelope' cannot be verified or reproduced by the reader.
  2. [§3.1, §3.2, §5] The interpretation of a small a/e as a low H-envelope mass assumes that the H-alpha profile is a clean photospheric P-Cygni line. The paper itself states that the early 'ledge' feature 'could be caused by the blending of several high-ionisation lines' (§3.1), and the SYNAPPS fit at 58.51 d overestimates the H-alpha absorption depth (§3.2). These statements raise the possibility that the observed a/e is suppressed by line blending, electron scattering, or CSM interaction rather than by a genuinely thin H envelope. Please address this degeneracy explicitly, e.g., by measuring a/e over several epochs, discussing the line-formation alternatives, or comparing with spectral models of varying H-envelope mass.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Abstract, §4.2] The word 'declination rate' appears where 'decline rate' is meant (Abstract and possibly elsewhere). Please correct.
  2. [Table 8] The first parameter row reads 'Mass [(M_ZAMS(M⊙)]'; this appears to have a formatting error in the LaTeX/bracket structure.
  3. [§5] The text says 'the early-plateau spectra reveal little to no H-alpha absorption component', but §3.2 states the P-Cygni profile of H-alpha is prominent from 26.58 d. Please specify the exact phase(s) used for the a/e measurement to avoid this inconsistency.
  4. [§1, Table 9, Figs. 3, 11, 13] SN 2013ej is cited in §1 as an example of a bridging/transitional object between IIP and IIL, but in the comparison sample it is used as an SNe IIL anchor. Since 2013ej itself is not a clean IIL, the classification labels in the comparison figures should be clarified or 2013ej should be treated separately.
  5. [§1] Some in-text citations mix SN names with author-year references, e.g., 'Hosseinzadeh et al. 2022a, 2023ixf' and 'Murai et al. 2024, 2021yja'. Please standardize the citation format.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity: the analysis compares observed quantities to external model grids and literature samples, and the classification is a posterior interpretation rather than an input to any fit.

full rationale

The paper's derivation chain is self-contained against external benchmarks and does not reduce any central claim to a fitted input or to a self-citation. The light-curve decline rate (S_V = 1.23 +/- 0.07 mag/100d, Section 4.2), plateau length (94.80 +/- 0.44 d), and H-alpha a/e placement (Section 5, Fig. 13) are measured quantities, not outputs of a model fitted using the classification conclusion. Progenitor mass estimates come from independent external model grids (Jerkstrand et al. 2014; Dessart et al. 2021; Moriya et al. 2023 via REDBACK), and the paper explicitly notes discrepancies between these estimates rather than forcing agreement. Self-citations (Dubey et al. 2026; Dastidar et al. 2025; Bostroem et al. 2019b; Pranshu et al. 2025; Valenti et al. 2016) support data-reduction details or auxiliary spectral interpretations and are not load-bearing for the IIP/IIL transitional claim. One robustness concern, noted in the reader's assessment but not circularity, is that the H-alpha a/e value underlying the thin-envelope inference is only shown graphically and never tabulated with uncertainties; if that measurement were affected by line blending or CSM interaction, the IIL-like spectroscopic pillar would weaken. This is a completeness/validation issue, not a case of the derivation relying on its own target.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

15 free parameters · 8 axioms · 0 invented entities

The analysis relies on standard SN modeling and on several domain assumptions: adopted distance/reddening, explosion epoch from midpoint, RSG progenitor grid (REDBACK/STELLA), fixed recombination temperature/opacity, interpretation of Hα a/e as an H-envelope tracer, and steady-wind CSM density with v_w=10 km/s. These are reasonable but are input assumptions rather than things the paper proves.

free parameters (15)
  • Explosion epoch t0 = MJD 59867.61 ± 0.97
    Midpoint estimate between last non-detection and discovery; anchors every phase and all fits.
  • Shock-cooling progenitor radius R = 1.60 (+0.30, -0.20) × 10^13 cm (~230 Rsun)
    Fit to early UBgVri light curve; used to support compact RSG.
  • Shock-cooling envelope mass M_env = +3/-2 Msun (prior 0-106)
    Fit parameter; poorly constrained.
  • Shock-cooling ejecta mass factor f_rho*M = 40 ± 30 Msun
    Fit parameter admitted to be degenerate/unconstrained.
  • Bolometric model ejecta mass M_ej = 13.07 (+0.02, -1.54) Msun
    Jäger et al. fit; progenitor M_ZAMS ~15 via +2 Msun core.
  • Bolometric model kinetic energy E_k = 3.32 (+0.01, -0.80) × 10^51 erg
    Disagrees with REDBACK E_SN=0.53.
  • Bolometric model thermal energy E_th = 0.84 (+0.15, -0.05) × 10^51 erg
    Fit parameter; total energy ~4×10^51 erg.
  • Bolometric model recombination temperature = 7000 K (fixed)
    Chosen constant; not fitted.
  • Bolometric model Thomson opacity = 0.3 g/cm^2 (fixed)
    Chosen constant; not fitted.
  • REDBACK M_ZAMS = 11.63 ± 0.57 Msun
    Surrogate model fit; slightly below 12-15 Msun range.
  • REDBACK 56Ni mass = 0.015 ± 0.004 Msun
    Surrogate fit; consistent with tail 0.015±0.002.
  • REDBACK mass-loss rate log10(Mdot) = -4.11 ± 0.17 Msun/yr
    Supports low-density CSM.
  • REDBACK CSM density profile slope beta = 3.39 ± 0.46
    Fit parameter.
  • REDBACK CSM radius R_CSM = 4.05 ± 1.03 × 10^14 cm
    Fit parameter; used to compute CSM density.
  • REDBACK explosion energy E_SN = 0.53 ± 0.01 × 10^51 erg
    Fit parameter; factor-8 discrepancy with semi-analytic.
axioms (8)
  • domain assumption Adopted distance D = 37.43 ± 2.63 Mpc from redshift using H0=73, Omega_m=0.27, Omega_Lambda=0.73.
    All absolute magnitudes and luminosities scale with D^2; the shock-cooling fit independently obtains 35.04 Mpc, so the distance has systematic uncertainty.
  • domain assumption Explosion epoch t0 = MJD 59867.61 ± 0.97 from midpoint between last non-detection and discovery.
    Used as the phase anchor in all fits; true explosion time could be earlier, affecting early-time fits and peak epoch.
  • domain assumption Galactic-only extinction E(B-V)=0.193 with no host extinction because NaID is not detected.
    If host extinction is nonzero, absolute magnitudes and colors shift; the shock-cooling fit returns E(B-V)=0.19±0.04, consistent, but not a measurement.
  • domain assumption Hα a/e ratio is a tracer of H envelope mass (Gutiérrez et al. 2014).
    The thin-H-envelope interpretation depends on this correlation; the paper does not report its own a/e measurement.
  • domain assumption REDBACK surrogate model grid (Moriya et al. 2023) based on RSG progenitors and STELLA accurately represents the parameter space.
    Inferred M_ZAMS, mass-loss rate, and E_SN come from this grid; fixed 56Ni mixing is acknowledged to bias plateau length/luminosity.
  • domain assumption CSM density computed via steady wind rho = Mdot/(4*pi*R_CSM^2*v_w) with v_w = 10 km/s.
    Wind velocity is assumed, not measured; density enters the comparison with flash-ionisation samples.
  • domain assumption Fixed recombination temperature 7000 K and Thomson opacity 0.3 g/cm^2 in semi-analytic bolometric model.
    These are chosen constants; different choices change the fitted ejecta mass and energy.
  • domain assumption Comparison sample classifications and parameters (t_PT, S_V, a/e) are homogeneous across the literature.
    The placement of SN 2022xus as transitional depends on where the comparison SNe fall in the same diagrams.

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We present optical photometric and spectroscopic observations of the Type~II supernova SN~2022xus. The SN reached its peak {\em V} band magnitude of $-16.32$ mag within $\sim$7 days of explosion, followed by a plateau phase lasting $\sim$94 days with a declination rate of $\sim$1.2 mag (100 day)$^{-1}$. Early time spectra exhibit broad features that could be caused by the blending of several high-ionisation lines, likely arising from a relatively weak interaction between the SN ejecta and the surrounding circumstellar medium (CSM). Compared to typical Type~IIP SNe, SN~2022xus exhibits a smaller H$\alpha$ absorption-to-emission ratio ($a/e$), indicating a relatively small hydrogen envelope mass at the time of explosion. From nebular-phase spectroscopy and bolometric light curve modelling, the progenitor mass is estimated to be in the range of 12 -- 15 M$_\odot$. The multi-band light curve modelling using \texttt{REDBACK} infers a similar progenitor mass, a low mass-loss rate, and a confined CSM. Although several photometric and spectroscopic characteristics place the SN within the Type~IIL population, it displays mixed properties of both Type~IIP and Type~IIL SNe and cannot be cleanly classified into either subclass. We therefore identify SN~2022xus as a transitional event between Type~IIP and Type~IIL SNe, providing further evidence for a continuum between these two classes.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2607.25323 by Ajay Kumar Singh, Aravind Pazhayath Ravi, Craig Pellegrino, Curtis McCully, D. Andrew Howell, Emily Hoang, Estefania Padilla Gonzalez, Giacomo Terreran, Joseph R. Farah, K. Azalee Bostroem, Kumar Pranshu, Kuntal Misra, Megan Newsome, Monalisa Dubey, Naveen Dukiya, Nicolas Meza Retamal, Raya Dastidar, Stefano Valenti, Yize Dong.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Left Panel: Colour composite image, created using SDSS g, r, and i filters, of SN 2022xus observed on UTC 2022-10-20.22. The SN is marked in red crosshairs, along with another SN 2018afb, previously discovered in the same host galaxy. The zoomed-in view of the SN is shown in the inset. Middle Panel: Reference image observed on UTC 2024-03-29.99. Right Panel: The host galaxy subtracted image of the SN marke… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Top Panel: The earliest (1.98 day) spectrum of SN 2022xus is presented and compared with SNe 2017eaw, 2021yja, and 2022acko as well as with the model spectra computed for models r1w1 and r1w1h (Dessart et al. 2017) at similar epoch. The broad H𝛼 profile is observed in both the observed and model spectra. An asymmetric ‘ledge-shape’ feature spanning 4500–4800 Å is also evident, as highlighted in the zoomed-… view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Left Panel: Spectroscopic evolution of SN 2022xus from 1.98 to 422.39 days since explosion. Host galaxy contamination is noticed in the 9.50 day spectrum. The model spectrum computed with SYNAPPS reproduced the 58.51 day spectrum shown in red. Right Panel: Comparison of the spectral feature of SN 2022xus with the comparison sample during the early-plateau (top), and nebular phase (bottom). The well-studied… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: The nebular phase (422.39 day) spectrum of SN 2022xus is shown along with the model spectra computed for 12 and 15 M⊙ (Jerkstrand et al. 2014) (top panel), and 10 best-fit model spectra (presented with different colours) from Dessart et al. (2021) (bottom panel). The intensity of [O i] 6300, 6364 Å doublet of the observed and model spectra is presented in the inset. 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 MZAMS (M ) 0.04 0.06… view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: The comparison between 𝑀𝑍 𝐴𝑀𝑆 and 𝑓[OI] is presented for a sample given by Das et al. (2026). SN 2022xus is represented with a star marker. The corresponding M𝑟, 𝑝𝑒𝑎𝑘 for each SNe represented by the colour bar [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p007_5.png] view at source ↗
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Optical light curves of SN 2022xus spanning from 2.76–177.51 days since explosion. The 100 best-fit models derived from the analytical modelling (Valenti et al. 2016) fitted to the V band light curve using MCMC, are shown in black. 0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 Days since explosion 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.5 2.0 (B V)0 SN 1990K SN 1999em SN 2009kr SN 2013by SN 2013ej SN 2017gmr SN 2021gmj SN 2021yja SN 2022acko SN 2022xu… view at source ↗
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: (𝐵 − 𝑉)0 colour evolution of the SN is compared with the com￾parison sample SNe. Grey points represent the additional sample SNe taken from de Jaeger et al. (2018). the previous method. The weighted average of these estimates yields a 56Ni mass of 0.013 ± 0.014 M⊙. Subsequently, the weighted aver￾age of the values obtained from the above two methods gives a 56Ni mass of 0.015 ± 0.002 M⊙, similar to SN 2021… view at source ↗
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: The bolometric light curve of SN 2022xus, along with the 50 best￾fit model light curves generated using semi-analytical modelling (Nagy et al. 2014; Jäger et al. 2020), is presented. Data up to 25 days after the explosion (gray shaded region) are not considered, as only the core part is assumed in the model and is accounted for in the modelling [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_9.png] view at source ↗
Figure 11
Figure 11. Figure 11: Top Panel:Correlation plot between 𝑆𝑉50 and 𝑀𝑉50, SN 2022xus presents with black square marker, whereas SNe IIP and IIL are shown in aster￾isk and triangle marker. An additional SNe II sample (shown in grey) is taken from Anderson et al. (2014). Bottom Panel: The position of SN 2022xus shown in 𝑆𝑉50–𝑡𝑃𝑇 plane. typically categorized as SN IIL (Faran et al. 2014), and here, the 𝑆𝑉 of SN 2022xus is 1.23±0.07… view at source ↗
Figure 12
Figure 12. Figure 12: The comparison among the photometric and CSM properties of SN 2022xus (marked with a red star). The additional sample is taken from Jacobson￾Galán et al. (2024b, 2025), where classes 1, 2, and 3 represent the SNe exhibit flash-ionisation features in decreasing order, along with the comparison SNe with very weak or almost no CSM interaction signature. and spectroscopic evolution of flash-ionisation feature… view at source ↗
Figure 13
Figure 13. Figure 13: The correlation between 𝑆𝑉 and H𝛼 𝑎/𝑒 ratio is shown. Circular markers denote the SNe from Gutiérrez et al. (2014), with magenta and green colour indicating 𝑆𝑉 values greater or less than 1. The SNe IIP and IIL of the comparison sample are plotted as asterisks and triangles, respectively, while SN 2022xus is represented by a black square. H𝛼 𝑎/𝑒 ratio and 𝑆𝑉 , indicating faster declining SNe tend to have … view at source ↗
Figure 14
Figure 14. Figure 14: Top Panel: The velocity evolution of SN 2022xus (black square) is plotted together with five SNe from the comparison sample, where SNe IIP and IIL are shown as circles and asterisks, respectively. The blue line shows the mean velocity from the extended sample of Gutiérrez et al. (2014), with its uncertainty shaded in gray. Bottom Panel: The location of SN 2022xus is displayed in the H𝛼 velocity–𝑎/𝑒 ratio … view at source ↗

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