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On Greenberg's conjecture for rational elliptic curves at Eisenstein primes

Number Theory · Submitted 30 Sep 2026 · 33 references

Pith's verdict: The algebraic part looks like a genuine advance — case (ii) of Greenberg's conjecture at arbitrary odd ordinary Eisenstein primes — but the analytic half leans on an unpublished preprint [KY24] whose stated scope (anticyclotomic, semistable) doesn't obviously cover the cyclotomic good-ordinary branch it is asked to carry.

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CitationMulun Yin, Zichao Lin. "On Greenberg's conjecture for rational elliptic curves at Eisenstein primes." arXiv:2609.40282 (2026). https://pith.science/paper/TBRCAFS2
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For rational elliptic curves at odd good ordinary Eisenstein primes, the paper proves Greenberg's conjecture: an isogenous curve has vanishing algebraic Iwasawa μ-invariant, and via the Iwasawa Main Conjecture the analytic μ-invariant…

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This paper proves Greenberg's conjecture for rational elliptic curves $E/\mathbb{Q}$ at odd good ordinary Eisenstein primes: primes $p$ at which $E$ has ordinary reduction and admits a rational $p$-isogeny, equivalently where $E[p]$ is reducible as a $\mathrm{Gal}(\overline{\mathbb{Q}}/\mathbb{Q})$-module. The claim is that some curve $E'$ isogenous to $E$ over $\mathbb{Q}$ has vanishing algebraic Iwasawa $\mu$-invariant for its Selmer group over the cyclotomic $\mathbb{Z}_p$-extension, and, via the Iwasawa Main Conjecture at Eisenstein primes, vanishing analytic $\mu$-invariant for the Mazur–Swinnerton-Dyer $p$-adic $L$-function. The proof reduces the open Eisenstein case — where the unramified subcharacter is even, the ramified one odd, and the extension is non-split — to the vanishing of fine $\mu$-invariants over the $p$-division field $L=\mathbb{Q}(E[p])$, where classical Iwasawa theory applies. If the argument holds, it confirms a prediction of Greenberg from 1999 and the compatible analytic prediction of Stevens, and does so uniformly for all odd $p$ with arbitrary semisimplification of $E[p]$.

What carries the argument

Iwasawa $\mu$-invariants count the $p$-power divisibility of the characteristic power series of a finitely generated torsion module over the Iwasawa algebra $\Lambda=\mathbb{Z}_p[\![\,\Gamma\,]\!]$; for a Selmer group, $\mu=0$ means the $p$-primary Tate–Shafarevich groups stay bounded along the cyclotomic tower, i.e., $\#\Sha(E(\mathbb{Q}_n))[p]$ is bounded as $n\to\infty$. The load-bearing mechanism is a commutative diagram of global-to-local maps that tracks the ' $\mu=1$' part of $H^1(\mathbb{Q}_\Sigma/\mathbb{Q}_\infty,E[p])$ through restriction to $L=\mathbb{Q}(E[p])$, where $E[p]$ splits as $F(\varphi)\oplus F(\psi)$, and then through local evaluation at primes above $p$. Two finiteness results close the argument: $\ker(\mathrm{proj}_L\circ \mathrm{res}_{L/\mathbb{Q}})$ is finite because the non-splitness of the extension makes $F(\psi)$ fail to be $\mathrm{Gal}(L/\mathbb{Q})$-invariant, and $\ker(\mathrm{loc}_{L,F(\varphi)})$ is finite by the vanishing of the fine Selmer $\mu$ over $L$. The p-extension principle (Proposition 3.1.5), proved via Nakayama's lemma, is what transfers $\mu=0$ from the abelian field $\mathbb{Q}(\varphi,\psi)$ — where Ferrero–Washington applies — up to the p-extension $L$.

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Core claim

Let $E/\mathbb{Q}$ be an elliptic curve and $p$ an odd good ordinary Eisenstein prime, meaning $E[p]$ fits into a short exact sequence $0\to F(\varphi)\to E[p]\to F(\psi)\to 0$ of $\mathrm{Gal}(\overline{\mathbb{Q}}/\mathbb{Q})$-modules with $\varphi\psi=\omega$. Of the two unresolved Eisenstein cases, case (i) — one of $\varphi,\psi$ unramified and odd — was settled by Greenberg–Vatsal [GV00]; this paper settles case (ii), where $\varphi$ is unramified and even, $\psi$ ramified and odd, and the extension is non-split. Over the intermediate abelian field $\mathbb{Q}(\varphi,\psi)$ the classical, classical-fine, and fine-for-$E$ $\mu$-invariants all vanish by the Ferrero–Washington theorem, and a Nakayama-based p-extension principle (Proposition 3.1.5) lifts this vanishing up to $L=\mathbb{Q}(E[p])$, where $E[p]$ splits as $F(\varphi)\oplus F(\psi)$. With these vanishings in hand, the paper tracks where the ' $\mu=1$' part of the global-to-local image of $H^1(\mathbb{Q}_\Sigma/\mathbb{Q}_\infty,E[p])$ lands: the non-splitness of the extension makes $F(\psi)$ fail to be $\mathrm{Gal}(L/\mathbb{Q})$-invariant, so restriction kills the intersection with the ramified summand, and the fine-$\mu$ vanishing kills the obstruction locally, together forcing Greenberg's $\mu$ over $\mathbb{Q}$ to vanish. Composing with the Iwasawa Main Conjecture at Eisenstein primes ([GV00], [CGS25], [KY24]) yields the analytic vanishing (Theorem 3.3.1) and confirms Stevens's conjecture. Theorem B records the vanishing of classical, classical-fine, and fine-for-$E$ $\mu$-invariants over $\mathbb{Q}(E[p])$, and Theorem C extends the reduction principle to the residually irreducible case, where vanishing of the classical fine $\mu$ over $\mathbb{Q}(E[p])$ would force Greenberg's $\mu$ over $\mathbb{Q}$ to vanish.

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing step is the reduction chain in section 3.1.3: if the fine Selmer $\mu$-invariant over $L=\mathbb{Q}(E[p])$ vanishes, then Greenberg's $\mu$ over $\mathbb{Q}$ vanishes, which rests on the identification $\mathrm{Gal}(L_\infty/\mathbb{Q}_\infty)\cong\mathrm{Gal}(L/\mathbb{Q})$ (the claim that $L\cap\mathbb{Q}_\infty=\mathbb{Q}$, justified by a field degree comparison plus a contradiction argument) together with the Nakayama p-extension principle and the assertion that the ' $\mu=1$' part of $H^1(\mathbb{Q}_\Sigma/\mathbb{Q}_\infty,E[p])$ does not land entirely in the ramified summand $F(\psi)$; if any of these premises fails, the tracking mechanism collapses.

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  • At every odd good ordinary Eisenstein prime, some curve in the isogeny class has vanishing algebraic $\mu$-invariant (Theorem A), and — via the Iwasawa Main Conjecture ([GV00], [CGS25], [KY24]) — vanishing analytic $\mu$-invariant for the Mazur–Swinnerton-Dyer $p$-adic $L$-function (Theorem 3.3.1), confirming Stevens's conjecture.
  • Over the p-division field $L=\mathbb{Q}(E[p])$, the classical, classical-fine, and fine-for-$E$ $\mu$-invariants all vanish (Theorem B), so the classical Selmer structure over $L$ carries no $p$-divisibility at all.
  • In the multiplicative reduction case, the algebraic part of Greenberg's conjecture holds already; the analytic part follows once the Iwasawa Main Conjecture is extended to multiplicative primes, as the authors note.
  • Because algebraic and analytic $\mu$ agree at Eisenstein primes (Corollary 3.2.2), all isogeny-class behaviour of $\mu$ is captured by Schneider's formula: positivity arises only from ramified-odd submodules of $E[p^\infty]$, giving the bound $\mu_E\le n$ when $E[p^n]$ is reducible and $E[p^{n+1}]$ is irreducible.
  • Theorem C gives a general reduction in the residually irreducible case: Greenberg's $\mu$ over $\mathbb{Q}$ vanishes as soon as the classical fine $\mu$ over $\mathbb{Q}(E[p])$ vanishes, so the outstanding problem becomes a pure number-field statement.

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  • If the reduction stands, the Eisenstein case of Greenberg's conjecture is effectively reduced to a classical number-field finiteness statement (Ferrero–Washington over an abelian field plus a p-extension lift), which suggests that further work — e.g., explicit bounds on $\lambda$ or uniformity across isogeny classes — could proceed through classical Iwasawa theory rather than Selmer-group structur
  • The one place I would scrutinize is the degree-comparison argument for $L\cap\mathbb{Q}_\infty=\mathbb{Q}$ in Step I: in the generic case $\mathbb{Q}(E[p])\neq\mathbb{Q}(\varphi,\psi)$ it rests on a contradiction between abelian and non-abelian fields, and a hands-on computation of $[\mathbb{Q}(E[p])\cap\mathbb{Q}_\infty:\mathbb{Q}]$ on a concrete curve would settle it.
  • Theorem C effectively reframes the residually irreducible case as a conjecture about classical fine $\mu$-invariants over division fields — a statement about class groups and cyclotomic towers rather than Selmer groups — which might be easier to attack computationally.
  • The tracking diagram uses almost nothing specific to elliptic curves beyond the shape of $E[p]$, so the same mechanism should extend to higher-weight modular forms with reducible residual Galois representation, with the local splitting and fine-Selmer inputs as the main obstacles; the authors flag this as later work.
Original abstract

Let $E/\mathbb{Q}$ be an elliptic curve, and let $p$ be an odd prime of ordinary reduction for $E$, and assume that $E$ admits a rational $p$-isogeny. In this paper we prove Greenberg's conjecture on the vanishing of algebraic Iwasawa $\mu$-invariants of the Selmer groups attached to $E$ over the cyclotomic $\mathbb{Z}_p$-extension of the rational numbers. Via the Iwasawa Main Conjecture for elliptic curves at Eisenstein primes, we also confirm Stevens's conjecture on the behavior of analytic $\mu$-invariants.

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Let $E/\mathbb{Q}$ be an elliptic curve, and let $p$ be an odd prime of ordinary reduction for $E$, and assume that $E$ admits a rational $p$-isogeny. In this paper we prove Greenberg's conjecture on the vanishing of algebraic Iwasawa $\mu$-invariants of the Selmer groups attached to $E$ over the cyclotomic $\mathbb{Z}_p$-extension of the rational numbers. Via the Iwasawa Main Conjecture for elliptic curves at Eisenstein primes, we also confirm Stevens's conjecture on the behavior of analytic $\mu$-invariants.

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