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The paper constructs a model of Martin's Axiom at ℵ1 plus the open coloring axiom OCA_T in which Baumgartner's Axiom fails, answering an open question in the negative.
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load-bearing objection Real result with a real gap: answers two open questions, but the base case needs an ℵ1-dense 2-entangled set under CH. the 1 major comments →
Open Colorings and Baumgartner's Axiom
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A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
Core claim
The paper proves the consistency of MA_ℵ1 + OCA_T together with the failure of Baumgartner's Axiom and of OCA_ARS. The witness is a nonstationarily 2-entangled sequence: an ℵ1-dense enumeration of distinct reals whose range has no injective, monotone, fixed-point-free partial map with a stationary domain. Any such sequence has a non-reversible range, which kills Baumgartner's Axiom, and a further argument shows it also defeats OCA_ARS. The technical heart is that these sequences survive the standard iteration for MA_ℵ1 + OCA_T: at each stage, a poset either preserves the sequence or is replaced by a poset that preserves the sequence and destroys the would-be destroyer's countable chain condi
What carries the argument
A nonstationarily 2-entangled sequence: an enumeration of distinct reals whose range is ℵ1-dense and such that every injective, monotone, fixed-point-free partial map on the range has nonstationary domain. Such a sequence's range is non-reversible, which is enough to refute Baumgartner's Axiom, and the sequence also refutes OCA_ARS. The proof's driving mechanism is a finite-support iteration: at countable-cofinality stages, a bookkeeping poset is either kept (if it preserves the sequence) or replaced by a poset that preserves the sequence and destroys the bookkeeping poset's countable chain condition; at uncountable-cofinality stages, clique-forcing for open graphs is refined so that the seq
Load-bearing premise
The construction needs a starting 2-entangled set of reals whose range is ℵ1-dense, but the proof only cites the continuum hypothesis for the existence of a 2-entangled set, without showing that it can be chosen to satisfy the density condition.
What would settle it
Prove or disprove: under CH there exists an ℵ1-dense 2-entangled set of reals. If the answer is no, then Definition 3's density requirement has no starting object and the iteration in Theorem 5 cannot get started; if the answer is yes, the missing density argument is the first step to supply.
If this is right
- Baumgartner's Axiom is not provable from MA_ℵ1 + OCA_T; the two axioms can hold while two ℵ1-dense sets of reals are not isomorphic.
- OCA_ARS is not a consequence of MA_ℵ1 + OCA_T, so the two open coloring principles remain independent even under Martin's Axiom.
- There is a model of MA_ℵ1 containing an ℵ1-dense set of reals that is neither increasing nor reversible, so the 'reversible or increasing' dichotomy fails.
- The obstruction to Baumgartner's Axiom in this model is not an increasing set—since OCA_T rules those out—but a non-reversible dense set.
Where Pith is reading between the lines
- The nonstationarily 2-entangled template may extend: other axioms forced alongside MA_ℵ1 could be combined with preserved 'almost-bad' objects by replacing any spoiling poset with a spoiler-destroying poset.
- A natural next question is whether the same iteration can preserve a family of nonstationarily entangled sequences, yielding many non-isomorphic ℵ1-dense order types under OCA_T rather than just one witness.
- The distinction between 'increasing' and 'reversible' for dense sets is sharpened: OCA_T forbids the former but leaves the latter possible, suggesting a broader taxonomy of rigidity properties that can coexist with OCA_T.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper introduces a new combinatorial object, a nonstationarily 2-entangled sequence, whose range is an ℵ1-dense non-reversible set of reals. It proves, via a finite-support iteration with an Abraham–Shelah style explicit-contradiction mechanism, that it is consistent that MA_ℵ1 + OCA_T holds while Baumgartner's Axiom and OCA_ARS both fail. This yields Theorem 1 and Corollary 2, answering questions of Farah and of Marun, Shelah, and Switzer.
Significance. If the construction is completed, the paper settles two open questions and provides a useful new tool: a preservation-friendly strengthening of 2-entanglement that is compatible with OCA_T. The main technical work—Propositions 6 and 7 and the iteration argument in Theorem 5—is substantial and largely coherent, with the preservation argument organized into claims. The paper is clearly written and makes good use of earlier work by Todorcevic, Veličković, and Abraham–Shelah. The central missing point, however, is a load-bearing existence fact for the starting object; until that is supplied, the result is conditional.
major comments (1)
- [§3, Definition 3 and proof of Theorem 5 (last paragraph)] The iteration requires a starting sequence satisfying Definition 3, in particular the range must be ℵ1-dense. The proof of Theorem 5 says only 'we let ⃗E be any enumeration of some 2-entangled set—recall that the existence of an entangled set follows from CH', and the note before Proposition 6 asserts that any enumeration of a 2-entangled set is nonstationarily 2-entangled. But §2.3 defines 2-entangled without any density condition, so a CH-produced 2-entangled set need not be ℵ1-dense. For instance, adding a countable set with no largest element below a 2-entangled set preserves 2-entanglement while destroying ℵ1-density. Thus the preservation arguments in Propositions 6 and 7 have no guaranteed ground object. This is likely fixable by explicitly constructing an ℵ1-dense 2-entangled set under CH or by otherwise proving the required starting object exists, but the paper as written does n
minor comments (4)
- [§2.2 and Lemma 4] The implication OCA_ARS ⇒ σ-monotone is used in Lemma 4. It is elementary, but the paper cites only an unpublished Todorcevic result for a related equivalence. A short proof or more precise citation for the implication itself would be helpful.
- [Proof of Theorem 5] Propositions 6 and 7 are stated under CH, but the proof of Theorem 5 does not explicitly justify that CH holds at every intermediate stage of the iteration. This is standard, since all iterands are ccc and of size at most ℵ1 under CH, but a one-sentence comment would improve readability.
- [Definition 3] The phrase 'without fixed points' is used essentially in Proposition 7 and Claim 7.1 but is not explicitly defined for partial monotone maps. Please define it.
- [§3, Proposition 6] The proof that H(Y,G) is ccc is delegated to 'minor modifications' of Todorcevic's classical argument. Since this is a central step, a more detailed citation or a sketch of the modification would be appropriate for a journal submission.
Circularity Check
No circular derivation: preservation argument reduces to Definition 3 and standard external forcing theorems; the Theorem 5 starting-object gap is an incompleteness, not a circularity.
full rationale
No circular step is load-bearing. Definition 3 introduces a genuinely new notion (nonstationarily 2-entangled sequences), and Lemma 4 derives the failures of BA and OCA_ARS directly from that definition, not from the notion being defined in terms of the conclusion. Propositions 6 and 7 are proved from the definition via standard elementary-submodel, ccc, and open-graph arguments; their external inputs are standard facts about OCA_ARS and the known OCA_T forcing from [20, 22, 24]. The author's own [7] appears only in a survey sentence about recent literature and is not used in the proof. The flagged issue in Theorem 5 is a correctness gap rather than circularity: the proof says 'we let ⃗E be any enumeration of some 2-entangled set—recall that the existence of an entangled set follows from CH', and the note before Proposition 6 says 'any enumeration of a 2-entangled set of reals is nonstationarily 2-entangled'; but Definition 3 also requires ran(⃗E) to be ℵ1-dense, while the cited 2-entangled sets from Section 2.3 are only uncountable. As written, the existence of a suitable starting object is not certified by the cited CH construction. This is an omitted or under-supplied bridge in the proof, not a reduction of the theorem to its own input; a strengthened CH construction producing an ℵ1-dense 2-entangled set would repair it without changing the derivation's structure.
Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger
axioms (5)
- domain assumption Con(ZF), equivalently there is a model of ZFC; the theorem is a relative consistency result.
- domain assumption The ground model satisfies V=L.
- domain assumption Under CH there exists an ℵ1-dense 2-entangled set of reals.
- domain assumption OCA_ARS implies that every injective f:A→R with |A|=ℵ1 is σ-monotone.
- standard math Todorcevic's classical argument shows H(Y,G) is ccc for the Y constructed in Proposition 6.
invented entities (1)
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Nonstationarily 2-entangled sequence
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read the original abstract
We construct a model of $\mathsf{MA_{\aleph_1}}+\mathsf{OCA}_T$ where Baumgartner's Axiom fails, settling a question of Farah. Moreover, in the same model there is an $\aleph_1$-dense set of reals which is neither reversible nor increasing, answering a question of Marun, Shelah, and Switzer.
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