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arxiv: 2606.24633 · v1 · pith:5MWKWIUXnew · submitted 2026-06-23 · 💻 cs.RO

Beyond Monotonic Progress: Retry-Supervised Value Learning for Robot Imitation

Xinyao Qin , Junjie Lu , Kaixin Wang , Chuheng Zhang , Sinjae Kang , Kimin Lee , Min Xu , Bin Liang
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keywords imitation learningvalue function learningretry supervisionrobot manipulationimperfect demonstrationsbehavior cloningpreference learningmistake detection
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Retry events in demonstrations supply sparse supervision for value functions that detect local mistakes and improve imitation from imperfect robot data.

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The paper sets out to show that retry events mark local degradation and recovery in mixed-quality demonstrations, supplying a signal that lets value functions learn pairwise preferences around those points instead of assuming steady monotonic progress. If this holds, the resulting values can reweight demonstration chunks during behavior cloning so that harmful errors lose influence while useful corrections remain, making imitation learning more robust when only realistic, error-containing data is available. This matters for robot manipulation because perfect demonstrations are expensive to collect and existing progress-based methods miss fine-grained execution quality. Experiments on real-robot tasks indicate that the learned values are more detailed than baseline ones and yield better downstream imitation performance.

Core claim

ReTVL learns mistake-sensitive value functions by combining global progress calibration with local pairwise preference learning induced by sparsely annotated retry keypoints, then applies the values to reweight demonstration chunks for behavior cloning so that execution errors are down-weighted while corrective behaviors are preserved.

What carries the argument

Retry-supervised value learning that uses retry keypoints to induce local pairwise preferences for modeling degradation-and-recovery structure around mistakes.

If this is right

  • Value estimates become more fine-grained than those produced by monotonic progress baselines.
  • Imitation learning from imperfect demonstrations improves on real-robot manipulation tasks.
  • Harmful execution errors receive reduced weight while useful corrective segments are retained during behavior cloning.
  • The approach operates directly on mixed-quality demonstration data without requiring additional dense rewards or perfect trajectories.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same retry-signal idea could be tested in other sequential domains where correction events occur naturally, such as language-model fine-tuning from human edits.
  • It offers a route to extract preference pairs from existing demonstration logs without new human annotation.
  • The framework might combine with online data collection to continually refine values from observed retries during deployment.

Load-bearing premise

Retry events in the demonstrations reliably mark unbiased local degradation-and-recovery points that can serve as supervision without task-specific bias or annotation artifacts.

What would settle it

A controlled comparison on the same real-robot manipulation tasks in which behavior cloning reweighted by ReTVL values shows no improvement or worse performance than reweighting by progress-based value estimates.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2606.24633 by Bin Liang, Chuheng Zhang, Junjie Lu, Jun Yang, Kaixin Wang, Kimin Lee, Li Zhao, Min Xu, Sinjae Kang, Xinyao Qin.

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Figure 1. Figure 1: ReTVL turns retry events into pairwise value supervision. Progress-based value models may overlook subtle execution errors and assign overly smooth increasing values. ReTVL uses retry keypoints to learn local value drops before correction and rebounds after recovery, enabling better identification of harmful and corrective trajectory segments. supervisory signals for value learning. Specifically, the tempo… view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: ReTVL learns retry-sensitive value estimates from sparse retry annotations. The model takes an observation history and language instruction as input, and predicts a scalar value through a VLM backbone and discrete value head. Training combines absolute progress calibration with retry-induced preference supervision, where values drop near retry states and rebound after recovery. ri,j marks the start of the … view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Visualization of value evaluation. We show value predictions on three other tasks beyond stack blocks. ReTVL captures local value drops around retry keypoints and rebounds after correction more clearly than progress-based baselines. Task Standard BC RECAP -BC ReTVL -BC Pick up Spoon 60 65 85 Stack Blocks 45 80 95 Fold Towel 50 65 80 Open Drawer 10 40 60 Average 41 63 80 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p… view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Average training weight assigned to an￾notated bad-action chunks in recovery trajectories. Lower is better. and distinguish successful executions from failures. The main advantage of ReTVL lies in local retry￾centered metrics. It achieves consistent improvements across all four local metrics, indicating that it more reliably captures retry-related local value changes. The improvement is especially large on… view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Real-world manipulation tasks used for policy evaluation. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_5.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Representative value-curve visualizations for ablation variants on held-out trajectories. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_6.png] view at source ↗
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Human demonstrations for robot imitation learning often contain mistakes and corrective behaviors, such as imprecise grasps, object misalignment, unstable contact, and repeated attempts. While these segments are commonly treated as noisy or suboptimal data, they provide valuable evidence about when execution deviates from a desirable path and how task feasibility can be restored. However, existing reward and value models often rely on monotonic progress assumptions, which capture coarse task advancement but may overlook local execution errors and corrective behaviors in imperfect demonstrations. In this work, we propose ReTVL (ReTry-Supervised Value Learning), a framework for learning mistake-sensitive value functions from mixed-quality robot demonstrations by leveraging retry events as sparse supervision. ReTVL captures the local degradation-and-recovery structure around mistakes by combining global progress calibration with local pairwise preference learning induced by sparsely annotated retry keypoints. The learned value model is then used to reweight demonstration chunks for downstream behavior cloning, reducing the influence of harmful execution errors while preserving useful corrective behaviors. Experiments on real-robot manipulation tasks show that ReTVL produces more fine-grained value estimates than progress-based baselines and improves imitation learning from imperfect demonstrations.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper proposes ReTVL (ReTry-Supervised Value Learning), a framework that learns mistake-sensitive value functions from mixed-quality robot demonstrations by treating sparsely annotated retry events as markers of local degradation-and-recovery. It combines global progress calibration with local pairwise preference learning from these keypoints, then reweights demonstration chunks using the learned value model for downstream behavior cloning. The central claim is that this produces more fine-grained value estimates than monotonic progress baselines and improves imitation learning performance on real-robot manipulation tasks with imperfect demonstrations.

Significance. If the central construction holds without bias, the work offers a practical advance in imitation learning by extracting supervisory signal from corrective behaviors that are typically discarded as noise. It directly targets a common real-world data issue (mistakes and recoveries) without requiring dense rewards or perfect demonstrations, and the reweighting step for behavior cloning is a clear downstream application. The approach is grounded in observable retry events rather than invented dense labels.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract and method section] The assumption that retry keypoints provide unbiased sparse supervision for pairwise preferences is load-bearing for both the fine-grained value claim and the reweighting benefit. The manuscript provides no annotation protocol, inter-annotator reliability metrics, or controls demonstrating that retry locations are independent of task geometry, object properties, or demonstrator idiosyncrasies (Abstract; method description). If retry events correlate with these factors, the learned value function may rediscover task-specific heuristics rather than general mistake sensitivity.
  2. [Abstract and experiments section] The abstract asserts that experiments show ReTVL produces more fine-grained value estimates and improves imitation learning, yet supplies no quantitative results, baseline comparisons, error bars, or statistical tests. This prevents assessment of whether the data support the central claims about value granularity and downstream BC improvement (Abstract; experiments section).

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 1 unresolved

We thank the referee for the constructive feedback. We address each major comment below and indicate planned revisions.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract and method section] The assumption that retry keypoints provide unbiased sparse supervision for pairwise preferences is load-bearing for both the fine-grained value claim and the reweighting benefit. The manuscript provides no annotation protocol, inter-annotator reliability metrics, or controls demonstrating that retry locations are independent of task geometry, object properties, or demonstrator idiosyncrasies (Abstract; method description). If retry events correlate with these factors, the learned value function may rediscover task-specific heuristics rather than general mistake sensitivity.

    Authors: We agree that an explicit annotation protocol would improve clarity. Retry events are identified directly from trajectory data as repeated attempts following observable failures (e.g., grasp slips or misalignments), which are task-agnostic markers of local degradation. The local pairwise preference learning is restricted to short windows around these keypoints to focus on recovery dynamics rather than global task structure. We will add a dedicated subsection describing the annotation procedure and acknowledge the absence of inter-annotator metrics and explicit independence controls as a limitation. New experiments to demonstrate full independence are outside the scope of the current study. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Abstract and experiments section] The abstract asserts that experiments show ReTVL produces more fine-grained value estimates and improves imitation learning, yet supplies no quantitative results, baseline comparisons, error bars, or statistical tests. This prevents assessment of whether the data support the central claims about value granularity and downstream BC improvement (Abstract; experiments section).

    Authors: The experiments section reports baseline comparisons on real-robot tasks and states that ReTVL yields finer value estimates and better BC performance. However, we acknowledge that the abstract contains no numerical values and that error bars plus statistical tests are not presented. We will revise the abstract to include key quantitative metrics and augment the experiments section with error bars and significance tests. revision: yes

standing simulated objections not resolved
  • Providing inter-annotator reliability metrics or new controls proving retry locations are independent of task geometry, object properties, and demonstrator idiosyncrasies, as these were not collected in the original study.

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The provided abstract and description contain no equations, fitting procedures, or derivation steps that reduce any prediction or result to its own inputs by construction. No self-citations, ansatzes, or uniqueness claims are referenced. The method is described at a high level using retry events for supervision, but without visible load-bearing reductions or self-referential definitions, the central claims remain independent of the inputs in the given text. This is the expected outcome for papers without explicit mathematical derivations shown.

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