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arxiv: 2605.22772 · v1 · pith:BKLK3OIInew · submitted 2026-05-21 · ⚛️ physics.optics · quant-ph

Magnon-mediated microwave to optical time dynamics

Rajkumar Jadhav , Xinglin Zeng , Cedric Traub , Fabian Engelhardt , Abdullah Alabbadi , Arghadeep Pal , Pascal Del'Haye , Silvia Viola Kusminskiy
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keywords optomagnonicsYIG microsphereBrillouin light scatteringmicrowave-optical transductionmagnon dynamicstemporal domainmagnon lifetime
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Microwave-driven magnons in a YIG microsphere produce retrievable square modulation directly in optical sidebands.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper shows that optomagnonic modulation can move the full temporal waveform of magnons from the microwave domain into the optical domain on the same timescale as the magnon decay itself. Inductive excitation creates square-modulated magnons whose signature is recovered in the optical sidebands through magnon-based Brillouin light scattering. A sympathetic reader would care because this gives direct, real-time access to magnon lifetime and dynamics rather than relying only on spectral measurements. The work therefore supplies a practical route to time-domain control in hybrid magnonic systems.

Core claim

We exploit the optomagnonic modulation in a YIG microsphere to demonstrate and study microwave to optical real-time dynamic transfer on a time scale comparable to the decay of magnons. We inductively excite magnons in the microwave domain and use magnon-based Brillouin light scattering to transduce the signature of excited magnonic waveforms to the optical domain. The square type modulation of the magnons is retrieved in the corresponding optical sidebands.

What carries the argument

Magnon-based Brillouin light scattering inside an inductively driven YIG microsphere, which converts the temporal envelope of the magnon waveform into optical sideband intensity.

If this is right

  • Real-time measurement of magnonic dynamics becomes possible in the optical domain.
  • Direct extraction of the magnonic mode lifetime is available from the optical signal decay.
  • The platform supports study of magnon interactions with superconducting qubits.
  • Magnon-based Brillouin memory devices can be explored using the preserved temporal information.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same optical readout could be used to monitor magnon coherence times under varying drive conditions.
  • Extension to pulsed operation would test whether the transduction remains linear at higher magnon amplitudes.
  • Integration with optical cavities might improve signal-to-noise and allow single-magnon sensitivity.

Load-bearing premise

Magnon-based Brillouin light scattering converts the full temporal waveform of the magnons into the optical domain without measurable distortion on the magnon lifetime timescale.

What would settle it

A side-by-side measurement in which the optical sideband power fails to reproduce the square edges or decay time of the microwave drive envelope would falsify the transduction claim.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.22772 by Abdullah Alabbadi, Arghadeep Pal, Birgit Stiller, Cedric Traub, Fabian Engelhardt, Pascal Del'Haye, Rajkumar Jadhav, Silvia Viola Kusminskiy, Xinglin Zeng.

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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3. Study of the dynamic interplay between microwave and optical responses of magnons for different pulse-widths. The [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Optomagnonic modulation techniques are an emerging platform for information transfer from the microwave to the optical domain. However, these techniques focus largely on the spectral domain of the transduced signal. Given the potential of the field to bridge the gap between microwave and optical signals, analyzing and studying the interactions real-time in temporal domain becomes equally essential. In this work, we exploit the optomagnonic modulation in a YIG microsphere to demonstrate and study microwave to optical real-time dynamic transfer on a time scale comparable to the decay of magnons. We inductively excite magnons in the microwave domain and use magnon-based Brillouin light scattering to transduce the signature of excited magnonic waveforms to the optical domain. The square type modulation of the magnons is retrieved in the corresponding optical sidebands. Our work enables real-time measurement of the magnonic dynamics and therefore direct access to lifetime measurements of the magnonic mode. Providing insight into the temporal dynamics of magnons, this work can open up new promising research directions such as in magnon coupled superconducting qubits or magnon-based Brillouin memory.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The manuscript claims to demonstrate real-time microwave-to-optical dynamic transfer via optomagnonic modulation in a YIG microsphere. Inductively excited magnons carrying square modulation are transduced through magnon-based Brillouin light scattering into optical sidebands, with the modulation signature retrieved on timescales comparable to the magnon decay time. This is presented as enabling direct lifetime measurements of the magnonic mode.

Significance. If the temporal fidelity of the transduction is rigorously validated, the work would contribute to the less-explored time-domain aspects of optomagnonics and could support applications in hybrid magnon-qubit systems or Brillouin memories. The experimental platform is accessible and builds on established YIG microsphere techniques.

major comments (2)
  1. [§4 (Results and Discussion)] §4 (Results and Discussion): The claim that the square modulation is retrieved without significant temporal distortion relies on visual comparison of waveforms, but no quantitative metrics (e.g., measured rise time, fidelity to input, or exponential decay fit to extract lifetime) are reported. This is load-bearing for the central assertion of real-time transfer on the magnon decay timescale.
  2. [§3 (Experimental Setup)] §3 (Experimental Setup): The optical detection chain (photodetector, amplifier, and oscilloscope) lacks specified bandwidth, response time, or any mention of deconvolution for the instrument response function. On the magnon decay timescale (typically ~1–10 µs in YIG), this omission prevents ruling out measurement-limited distortion in the retrieved sideband signal.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: The modulation frequency, amplitude, and duty cycle of the square wave are not stated, making it difficult to assess whether the demonstrated timescale is indeed comparable to the magnon lifetime.
  2. [Figures] Figure captions: Several figures showing time traces would benefit from explicit scale bars or annotations indicating the magnon decay time for direct visual comparison.

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We thank the referee for their constructive comments, which help clarify the presentation of our time-domain results. We respond to each major comment below and have prepared revisions to address the concerns.

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  1. Referee: [§4 (Results and Discussion)] The claim that the square modulation is retrieved without significant temporal distortion relies on visual comparison of waveforms, but no quantitative metrics (e.g., measured rise time, fidelity to input, or exponential decay fit to extract lifetime) are reported. This is load-bearing for the central assertion of real-time transfer on the magnon decay timescale.

    Authors: We agree that quantitative support strengthens the central claim. In the revised manuscript we will add explicit metrics: the 10–90% rise time of the retrieved optical waveform, a normalized cross-correlation fidelity between the input microwave square wave and the detected sideband signal, and a single-exponential fit to the falling edge that directly yields the magnon lifetime. These additions will be placed in §4 alongside the existing waveform traces. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [§3 (Experimental Setup)] The optical detection chain (photodetector, amplifier, and oscilloscope) lacks specified bandwidth, response time, or any mention of deconvolution for the instrument response function. On the magnon decay timescale (typically ~1–10 µs in YIG), this omission prevents ruling out measurement-limited distortion in the retrieved sideband signal.

    Authors: We will expand §3 to include the measured bandwidth and rise time of the photodetector, amplifier, and oscilloscope. Because the relevant magnon dynamics occur on microsecond scales, the detection chain bandwidth (several tens of MHz) is more than sufficient; we will add a short statement confirming that the instrument response function does not appreciably distort the observed waveforms and that deconvolution is unnecessary. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: experimental demonstration without derivation chain

full rationale

The manuscript reports an experimental demonstration of real-time microwave-to-optical transduction via magnon-mediated Brillouin scattering in a YIG microsphere. The central result is the observed retrieval of square-wave magnon modulation in the optical sidebands on the timescale of magnon decay. No first-principles derivation, fitted-parameter prediction, or uniqueness theorem is invoked; the claim rests on direct measurement of temporal waveforms. Because the work contains no load-bearing mathematical chain that reduces to its own inputs or self-citations, the result is independent of any circular construction.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The demonstration relies on standard physical mechanisms of magnon excitation and Brillouin scattering in YIG; no new free parameters, axioms beyond domain physics, or invented entities are introduced in the abstract.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Established physics of magnon dynamics and Brillouin light scattering in ferromagnetic microspheres
    The transduction mechanism and timescale comparison presuppose these standard results.

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