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A Multimodal RGB and Events Dataset for Hand Detection in First-Person View

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Pith's one-line read A synthetic multimodal RGB and events dataset allows hand detection in first-person view with performance comparable to state-of-the-art methods.

desk verdict The paper ships a new synthetic RGB+event hand-detection dataset from Egohands via v2e, but the detection results have no numbers and rest entirely on unvalidated simulation. read the letter →

arxiv 2606.10790 v1 pith:CKRZTRYC submitted 2026-06-09 cs.CV

Bharghav Kota (1) , Yulia Sandamirskaya (1) ((1) Zurich University of Applied Sciences , Wädenswil , Switzerland) This is my paper
classification cs.CV
keywords handdetectionevent-basedvisionmultimodaldatasetfirst-personviewsyntheticdatagenerationegocentricobject
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The reading

The paper seeks to overcome the scarcity of training data for event-based cameras in hand detection by creating a synthetic dataset from an existing RGB egocentric hands collection. Using the v2e toolbox, it generates event streams under varied lighting and scale conditions, with ground truth labels derived from a fine-tuned YOLOv8 model on the original images and interpolated to the event data. This multimodal setup combining events and RGB frames is then tested with existing object detection algorithms, yielding results on par with current top performers. A reader would care because event cameras offer high speed and dynamic range advantages for robotic applications where conventional cameras suffer from motion blur, but lack of data has limited their use.

What carries the argument

The synthetic event-based hand dataset synthesized from the Egohands RGB dataset via the v2e toolbox, with ground truth from YOLOv8, used in a multi-modal RGB-event detection setup.

What would settle it

Train a hand detector on the synthetic dataset and test it on real event camera footage of hands in first-person view; significantly lower accuracy than on synthetic test data would indicate the synthetic data is not representative enough.

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Core claim

We propose a methodology to synthesize an exemplary event-based hand dataset from the Egohands RGB dataset using the v2e toolbox, varying parameters for different lighting conditions and scales. Ground truth detections are generated with a fine-tuned YOLOv8 model applied to RGB images and interpolated to events. Using this multi-modal dataset, we perform hand detection with existing algorithms in a multi-modal event and RGB camera setup and demonstrate performance comparable to the state-of-the-art.

Load-bearing premise

Event streams generated by the v2e toolbox from RGB images produce data sufficiently representative of real event cameras for training and evaluating hand detectors in first-person view.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Existing object detection algorithms can be applied to multimodal event and RGB data for hand detection.
  • Performance comparable to state-of-the-art is achievable with the synthetic dataset.
  • Variations in lighting and scale in the dataset allow evaluation under different conditions.
  • Ground truth can be reliably generated by applying RGB detectors and interpolating to events.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • This method could reduce the need for expensive real event camera data collection for similar tasks.
  • Robotic systems using first-person view might integrate such detectors for better performance in dynamic environments.
  • Further validation with actual event camera recordings would strengthen the approach.
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Referee Report

2 major / 1 minor

Summary. The manuscript proposes a methodology to synthesize a multimodal RGB-event dataset for first-person hand detection by converting the Egohands RGB dataset into event streams via the v2e toolbox (with parameters varied for lighting and scale), generating ground-truth boxes via fine-tuned YOLOv8 on RGB frames and interpolating them onto the event stream, then training and evaluating existing multi-modal object detectors on the resulting data while claiming performance comparable to the state-of-the-art.

Significance. If the synthetic events prove representative of real hardware, the dataset would address a documented scarcity of training data for event-based hand detection and could support improved multimodal algorithms for robotic systems under motion blur or low light. The work is purely empirical and supplies no machine-checked proofs or parameter-free derivations.

major comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the central empirical claim that multi-modal detection on the synthesized dataset achieves 'performance comparable to the state-of-the-art' is unsupported by any quantitative metrics, baselines, tables, or error analysis, rendering the headline result unevaluable.
  2. [Methodology] Dataset synthesis section (methodology): no quantitative comparison is reported between v2e-generated event statistics (event rate, polarity balance, noise, contrast threshold) and real DAVIS/Prophesee recordings of equivalent scenes; without this check the assumption that detectors exploit genuine event cues rather than simulation artifacts remains untested and is load-bearing for any transfer claim.
minor comments (1)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract, sentence 3: 'We can leverage the use of' is redundant; 'We leverage' would be clearer.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

2 responses · 0 unresolved

Thank you for the constructive feedback on our manuscript. We address each major comment point by point below, indicating where revisions will be made to strengthen the paper.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the central empirical claim that multi-modal detection on the synthesized dataset achieves 'performance comparable to the state-of-the-art' is unsupported by any quantitative metrics, baselines, tables, or error analysis, rendering the headline result unevaluable.

    Authors: We agree that the abstract would be strengthened by including explicit quantitative support for the performance claim. The full manuscript reports experimental results using multi-modal detectors on the synthesized dataset, with mAP values that align with those in prior state-of-the-art hand detection works. To make this claim immediately evaluable from the abstract, we will revise it to include key metrics (such as mAP) and direct references to the evaluation tables and sections. revision: yes

  2. Referee: [Methodology] Dataset synthesis section (methodology): no quantitative comparison is reported between v2e-generated event statistics (event rate, polarity balance, noise, contrast threshold) and real DAVIS/Prophesee recordings of equivalent scenes; without this check the assumption that detectors exploit genuine event cues rather than simulation artifacts remains untested and is load-bearing for any transfer claim.

    Authors: We acknowledge that a direct statistical comparison to real event hardware would provide additional validation. The Egohands source data is RGB-only, so paired real event recordings of the identical scenes are unavailable. The v2e simulator is established in the literature for generating realistic events from video, and our work varies its parameters to create multiple dataset versions. In the revised manuscript we will expand the methodology section with references to v2e validation studies, details on the chosen parameters, and an explicit discussion of this limitation of the synthetic approach. revision: partial

Circularity Check

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No circularity; purely empirical dataset construction with no derivations or self-referential predictions

full rationale

The paper constructs a synthetic event dataset from the existing Egohands RGB set via the external v2e toolbox, varies parameters for lighting/scale, generates GT boxes via fine-tuned YOLOv8 on RGB then interpolates to events, and reports detection performance on the resulting multimodal data. No equations, fitted parameters renamed as predictions, self-citations of uniqueness results, or ansatzes appear. The central claim (comparable-to-SOTA detection on the synthetic multimodal set) is an empirical measurement on held-out synthesized data, not a derivation that reduces to its own inputs by construction. This matches the default non-circular case for dataset papers.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 0 assumptions · 0 invented entities

This is an empirical dataset-synthesis paper; no mathematical derivations, fitted constants, or new physical postulates are introduced.

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Existing hand detection algorithms work on images and the detection rate is restricted by the frame rate of the camera. In hand detection applications for moving robotic systems, conventional cameras cause motion blur, especially in darker lighting conditions. We can leverage the use of event-based cameras which possess a high dynamic range, high temporal resolution, and low power consumption. Recent work has shown that using a stereo setup of an event-based and a frame-based camera improves detection accuracy and the bandwidth-latency tradeoff. The main bottleneck in using event-based cameras in object detection and recognition tasks is a relatively low amount of training data. In this work, we propose a methodology and an exemplary synthetic event-based hand dataset from an egocentric, first-person view perspective. The data is synthesized from the existing RGB Egohands dataset with the v2e toolbox. Parameters of the v2e toolbox are varied to provide versions of the dataset with different lighting conditions and scales. Ground truth detections are generated with a fine-tuned YOLOv8 model which is applied to the RGB images in the Egohands dataset and interpolated on the high-temporal resolution events. We use the multi-modal dataset to perform hand detection with existing object detection algorithms which use a multi-modal setup of event and RGB cameras and demonstrate performance comparable to the state-of-the-art.

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Figure 1. Accumulated event frame (event accumulation for [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. RGB frame from EgoHands B. Event Based Cameras The Dynamic Vision Camera (DVS) pixel operates through a circuit sensitive to change in illumination which is governed by bias currents that define both the detection threshold and analog bandwidth [2]. The incident light induces a logarithmic voltage Vp change at the photoreceptor which is then inverted and amplified. This voltage Vd is then compared with the on and of… view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Events overlayed with RGB Frame [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Faery render of Clean events as pixel-level Gaussian event threshold mismatch, intensity￾dependant noise, finite intensity dependent bandwidth, tem￾poral noise, and leak events [31]. As a result of simulating DVS non-idealities, v2e can better model pixels in bad light…
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Event rate - Clean modelling [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_6.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Event rate - Noisy modelling with 30, 10 and 8 videos respectively. We retain this split for all the dataset versions that are used to train the model. The weights obtained from different dataset versions are then used to run inference on a common test dataset and thes…
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Figure 8. Figure 8: IoU loss convergence plot while training [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_8.png]
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: validation mAP metric plot around 100k training steps, after which it begins to decline slightly. This suggests that the model starts to overfit beyond this point, as it continues to improve on the training data (as seen from the decreasing loss) but no longer generali…

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