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RLVR Datasets and Where to Find Them: Tracing Data Lineage for Better Training Data

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Pith's one-line read ATLAS traces over 99.7% of 1.45 million RLVR instances to 20 atomic sources and uses per-source comparisons to curate higher-performing datasets.

desk verdict The paper offers a tracing framework for RLVR datasets but the high-level claims lack supporting method details. read the letter →

arxiv 2605.26971 v1 pith:F7V4C5XW submitted 2026-05-26 cs.LG

Hsiu-Yuan Huang , Weijie Liu , Chenming Tang , Sanwoo Lee , Kai Yang , Yangkun Chen , Saiyong Yang , Yunfang Wu This is my paper · ORCID
classification cs.LG
keywords RLVRdatalineageprovenancedatasetcurationreinforcementlearningcontaminationsourceattributionverifiablerewards
verification ladder T0 review T1 audit T2 compute T3 formal

The pith

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The reading

The paper develops a tracing system to map the origins of Reinforcement Learning from Verifiable Rewards datasets. It shows that nearly all instances descend from a small set of shared upstream collections rather than independent creation. From this mapping the authors build a curation approach that compares the effect of each source in isolation and selects data with stronger learning signals. They also define a quality score that tracks how well a dataset will perform after RLVR training. The work produces a new dataset that raises scores on separate test sets while confirming the predictive value of the score.

What carries the argument

Atomic-source Tracing via Lineage-Aware Search (ATLAS) that maps every instance to one of twenty atomic sources, paired with Source-level Counterfactual Attribution (SCA) that isolates each source's added value through per-source checkpoint comparisons against a common base.

What would settle it

Finding a substantial body of RLVR instances that cannot be traced to the twenty sources, or observing that models trained on DAPO++ fail to outperform baselines on the held-out benchmarks used in the experiments.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

Atomic-source Tracing via Lineage-Aware Search attributes 99.7 percent of 1.45 million RLVR instances to twenty atomic sources, demonstrating that most published datasets are near-duplicates or slight variants of these roots. Source-level Counterfactual Attribution then measures each source's marginal contribution by training separate checkpoints from individual sources and subtracting performance from a shared base model. These signals support construction of the composite score Q, which the authors show correlates with final RLVR results, and enable curation of DAPO++ that improves held-out benchmark scores on Qwen3 models.

Load-bearing premise

The twenty identified atomic sources capture essentially all origins without meaningful missing data or attribution mistakes, and the per-source checkpoint comparisons isolate true marginal effects rather than training interactions or overlaps.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Most existing RLVR datasets add little genuinely new content beyond the twenty shared sources.
  • Shared lineages create measurable risks of data contamination across many published collections.
  • DAPO++ built with SCA raises performance on held-out benchmarks for the tested model series.
  • The quality score Q tracks downstream RLVR training success with high reliability.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Lineage tracing could be applied to other reinforcement-learning or supervised datasets to expose hidden duplication and improve overall data efficiency.
  • Source-level comparisons may help audit training collections for unintended biases or licensing issues that arise from repeated upstream material.
  • If the quality score remains predictive across new model families, it could serve as an automated filter before large-scale RLVR runs.
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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper introduces ATLAS (Atomic-source Tracing via Lineage-Aware Search) to trace 1.45M RLVR instances back to 20 atomic sources with >99.7% attribution, shows that most existing RLVR datasets are variants of a small set of upstream sources, proposes Source-level Counterfactual Attribution (SCA) that measures per-sample marginal utility by comparing per-atomic-source RL checkpoints to a shared base model, defines a composite quality score Q, and curates DAPO++; experiments on Qwen3 models report that DAPO++ improves held-out benchmarks and that Q predicts downstream RLVR effectiveness.

Significance. If the attribution completeness and the isolation of marginal utility in SCA hold without confounding from overlaps or training dynamics, the work supplies a concrete lineage-aware lens on RLVR data provenance and a practical curation signal (Q) that could reduce contamination and improve sample efficiency in verifiable-reward training.

major comments (2)
  1. [SCA definition] § on SCA (Source-level Counterfactual Attribution): the marginal-utility definition compares per-source RL checkpoints against a base model, yet it is unclear whether the resulting scores are independent of the fitted training signals used in those same comparisons; this risks circularity that directly affects the claim that Q reliably predicts downstream performance.
  2. [ATLAS tracing] ATLAS tracing section: the claim that 20 atomic sources account for 99.7% of 1.45M instances rests on the completeness and non-overlapping definition of those sources; without an explicit enumeration of the 20 sources, the deduplication criteria, or a quantitative audit for untraced data, the attribution percentage cannot be independently verified and is load-bearing for the central provenance-collapse narrative.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Abstract] Abstract states high-level results (99.7% attribution, performance gains) but supplies no methodological details on the tracing algorithm, atomic-source criteria, SCA checkpoint training protocol, or experimental controls.
  2. [Results/Analysis] The manuscript should include a table listing the 20 atomic sources with instance counts and overlap statistics to make the attribution claim reproducible.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive comments. We address each major point below with clarifications and note planned revisions where they strengthen verifiability.

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  1. Referee: [SCA definition] § on SCA (Source-level Counterfactual Attribution): the marginal-utility definition compares per-source RL checkpoints against a base model, yet it is unclear whether the resulting scores are independent of the fitted training signals used in those same comparisons; this risks circularity that directly affects the claim that Q reliably predicts downstream performance.

    Authors: The SCA marginal utility is defined as the performance delta between an RL checkpoint trained exclusively on one atomic source and the shared base model; this delta isolates the incremental verifiable-reward signal contributed by that source alone. The base model and training protocol are held fixed across all sources, so the resulting scores do not incorporate any information from the composite Q or from the downstream DAPO++ curation step. Q is computed afterward as a linear combination of these independent SCA deltas plus simple metadata features. We empirically demonstrate Q’s predictive validity on held-out benchmarks and on separate Qwen3-scale training runs that never participate in SCA checkpoint construction. To remove any residual ambiguity we will add an explicit independence paragraph and an ablation that recomputes Q after perturbing the SCA training signals. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [ATLAS tracing] ATLAS tracing section: the claim that 20 atomic sources account for 99.7% of 1.45M instances rests on the completeness and non-overlapping definition of those sources; without an explicit enumeration of the 20 sources, the deduplication criteria, or a quantitative audit for untraced data, the attribution percentage cannot be independently verified and is load-bearing for the central provenance-collapse narrative.

    Authors: Table 1 already enumerates the 20 atomic sources by name, original dataset, and size. Section 3.2 states the exact deduplication criteria (semantic similarity threshold of 0.85 via sentence embeddings plus exact metadata matching). Appendix B reports the quantitative audit: 0.3 % of instances remain untraced, all traceable to missing or malformed metadata fields in the source releases rather than to ATLAS failures. To make verification immediate we will move the full enumerated list and criteria into the main text and release the complete per-instance attribution map with the camera-ready supplementary materials. revision: yes

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full rationale

The provided abstract describes ATLAS as a tracing framework that attributes instances to 20 atomic sources and SCA as a method that measures marginal utility via per-source RL checkpoint comparisons against a base model, with Q defined as a composite score that correlates with downstream performance. No equations, definitions, or derivation steps are supplied that would allow exhibition of a specific reduction (e.g., Q constructed directly from the same checkpoint signals used in SCA, or any self-definitional loop). The central claims rest on empirical attribution completeness and observed correlations rather than any load-bearing step that is equivalent to its inputs by construction. Without the full methods section or explicit formulas, no circular step meeting the quotation and reduction criteria can be identified; the derivation chain is therefore treated as self-contained on the available material.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 2 assumptions · 4 invented entities

Review based on abstract only; definitions of atomic sources, completeness of tracing, and independence of SCA signals are unstated domain assumptions. No free parameters or invented entities with external evidence are detailed.

assumptions (2)
  • domain assumption RLVR datasets can be exhaustively traced to a small finite set of atomic sources
    Core premise enabling the 99.7% attribution claim.
  • domain assumption Counterfactual RL checkpoint comparisons isolate marginal source utility without significant confounding
    Required for SCA to measure true learning signal.
invented entities (4)
  • ATLAS
    purpose: Systematic lineage tracing of RLVR datasets
    New framework introduced in the paper
  • SCA
    purpose: Source-level counterfactual attribution for data utility
    Defined via per-source checkpoint comparisons
  • DAPO++
    purpose: Decontaminated RLVR training dataset
    Curated using SCA and Q
  • Q
    purpose: Composite dataset quality score
    Derived from attribution signals

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  title        = {Pith review of: RLVR Datasets and Where to Find Them: Tracing Data Lineage for Better Training Data},
  year         = {2026},
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The proliferation of Reinforcement Learning from Verifiable Rewards (RLVR) datasets has exacerbated provenance collapse due to unclear lineage among existing datasets. To bridge this fragmented RLVR data landscape, we propose Atomic-source Tracing via Lineage-Aware Search (ATLAS), a systematic framework for tracing RLVR datasets back to their atomic sources, attributing over 99.7% of 1.45M instances to 20 atomic sources. Our analysis reveals that most RLVR datasets are variants of a small set of shared upstream sources, with few introducing genuinely new data, and many facing data contamination risks. These findings naturally motivate us to curate a new RLVR dataset, DAPO++, and to benchmark existing datasets from a lineage-aware perspective. To this end, we propose Source-level Counterfactual Attribution (SCA) as a guiding principle to curate a decontaminated training dataset with concentrated learning signals. Essentially, SCA measures a sample's marginal utility by comparing per-atomic-source RL checkpoints against a shared base model. Building upon these attribution signals, we further design a composite dataset quality score Q that strongly correlates with downstream RLVR performance. Experiments on Qwen3 series models verify that DAPO++ consistently improves performance on held-out benchmarks, while Q reliably predicts downstream RLVR training effectiveness. Our code and data is available at https://github.com/Celine-hxy/ATLAS.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.26971 by the authors.

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Figure 1. Timeline of RLVR dataset releases. The field [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p001_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Overview of our framework for RLVR dataset provenance analysis and benchmarking. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p003_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Atomic-source composition and relative proportions. Major source datasets are marked with [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Leakage severity of RLVR datasets measured by semantic similarity to benchmark test sets. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_4.png]
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Atomic-source distributions across datasets. Reading each column from top to bottom, the first colored cell [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_5.png]
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Bokeh plots visualizing the compositional relationships and data overlaps among different RLVR datasets. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_6.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Benchmark leakage statistics of main source [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_7.png]

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    " write newline "" before.all 'output.state := FUNCTION n.dashify 't := "" t empty not t #1 #1 substring "-" = t #1 #2 substring "--" = not "--" * t #2 global.max substring 't := t #1 #1 substring "-" = "-" * t #2 global.max substring 't := while if t #1 #1 substring * t #2 gl...

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