Beyond the Final Actor: Modeling the Dual Roles of Creator and Editor for Fine-Grained LLM-Generated Text Detection

Danding Wang; Juan Cao; Qiang Sheng; Yang Li; Yehan Yang; Zhengjia Wang

arxiv: 2604.04932 · v3 · pith:H3L7DXCAnew · submitted 2026-04-06 · 💻 cs.CL

Beyond the Final Actor: Modeling the Dual Roles of Creator and Editor for Fine-Grained LLM-Generated Text Detection

Yang Li , Qiang Sheng , Zhengjia Wang , Yehan Yang , Danding Wang , Juan Cao This is my paper

Pith reviewed 2026-05-21 09:23 UTC · model grok-4.3

classification 💻 cs.CL

keywords LLM text detectionfine-grained classificationrhetorical structure theorycreator-editor rolesEDU featuresfour-class detectionsynthetic text regulation

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A detection method builds separate models of a text's original creator logic and later editor style to classify four types of human-LLM combinations.

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The paper introduces a four-class detection task that distinguishes pure human text, pure LLM text, LLM-polished human text, and human-edited LLM text, because these categories carry different regulatory consequences. It proposes RACE to capture the creator's logical foundation through a rhetorical structure theory graph and the editor's stylistic choices through elementary discourse unit features. Experiments demonstrate that this dual-role approach beats twelve existing detectors while keeping false alarms low. The work focuses on practical policy needs rather than binary labels alone.

Core claim

RACE models the distinct signatures of creator and editor by constructing an RST-based logic graph for the creator's foundation and extracting EDU-level features for the editor's style, which together enable accurate four-class classification of LLM-generated text with low false alarms.

What carries the argument

RACE (Rhetorical Analysis for Creator-Editor Modeling), which separates creator logic via RST graphs from editor style via EDU features to handle four-class detection.

Load-bearing premise

Distinct and consistent signatures of the creator's logical structure and the editor's stylistic edits can be reliably extracted via RST graphs and EDU-level features across varied texts and models.

What would settle it

A new test set containing texts from previously unseen LLMs and human editors where RACE loses its reported advantage over the twelve baselines or produces higher false alarms would falsify the central performance claim.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2604.04932 by Danding Wang, Juan Cao, Qiang Sheng, Yang Li, Yehan Yang, Zhengjia Wang.

**Figure 1.** Figure 1: Illustration of our research scope. (a) A Creator-Editor framework for categorizing different types of texts in fine-grained LLM-generated text detection. (b) Comparison of the existing settings and the complex 4-class setting that we focus on in this paper. While the surge of Large Language Models (LLMs) (OpenAI, 2025b, Yang et al., 2025a) has revolutionized content creation and inspired a diverse rang… view at source ↗

**Figure 2.** Figure 2: Distribution of RST relations. (a) Divergence of Creators: Human creators build deeper rhetorical hierarchies (e.g., Attribution, Background), whereas LLMs produce flatter structures relying on surface-level relations (e.g., Elaboration, Evaluation). (b) LLM-Polished: underlying human architecture persists. (c) Humanized: underlying LLM architecture persists. Rhetorical Structure Theory (RST) is a descr… view at source ↗

**Figure 3.** Figure 3: Overall architecture of RACE. Given a text piece, RACE (a) first captures both creator and editor traces through rhetorical structure construction and elementary discourse unit extraction. (b) These dual traces are then transformed into a logic-aware graph, where both linguistic expression and logical organization signals are encoded into node features via descendant span pooling and relation-aware project… view at source ↗

**Figure 4.** Figure 4: Analysis of detection performance of CoCo and our proposed RACE across varying text lengths. Impact of Text Length Variations. We investigate how input text length affects detection performance [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p010_4.png] view at source ↗

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The misuse of large language models (LLMs) requires precise detection of synthetic text. Existing works mainly follow binary or ternary classification settings, which can only distinguish pure human/LLM text or collaborative text at best. This remains insufficient for the nuanced regulation, as the LLM-polished human text and humanized LLM text often trigger different policy consequences. In this paper, we explore fine-grained LLM-generated text detection under a rigorous four-class setting. To handle such complexities, we propose RACE (Rhetorical Analysis for Creator-Editor Modeling), a fine-grained detection method that characterizes the distinct signatures of creator and editor. Specifically, RACE utilizes Rhetorical Structure Theory (RST) to construct a logic graph for the creator's foundation while extracting Elementary Discourse Unit (EDU)-level features for the editor's style. Experiments show that RACE outperforms 12 baselines in identifying fine-grained types with low false alarms, offering a policy-aligned solution for LLM regulation.

Editorial analysis

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The paper moves LLM text detection to a four-class setup with RST graphs for creator logic and EDU features for editor style, but the abstract gives no numbers or controls so the gains and role separation are hard to judge.

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The main things to know are that this work targets a policy gap by defining four classes—pure human, pure LLM, LLM-polished human, and humanized LLM—and tries to separate the creator's logical structure from the editor's stylistic changes using Rhetorical Structure Theory graphs plus Elementary Discourse Unit features. That framing is new relative to the binary and ternary detectors cited in the abstract, and applying established discourse tools to model the dual roles is a reasonable and direct way to tackle the problem. It does well at spelling out why those four types matter for regulation and moderation, where a simple AI flag is often too coarse. The modeling choice itself is grounded in prior RST and EDU literature rather than invented from scratch. The soft spots are more about execution than the idea. The abstract claims outperformance over 12 baselines with low false alarms, yet supplies no accuracy numbers, no dataset details, no statistical tests, and no ablation results. Without those, it is difficult to tell whether the reported edge comes from the creator-editor split or simply from richer features. The stress-test concern also looks plausible on the surface: RST is applied to the final text, so editor insertions, deletions, or relation changes can alter the graph and nuclearity, potentially confounding the creator signature instead of isolating it. If the full paper does not include targeted checks or controls for this mixing, the central decomposition may not hold as cleanly as intended. This paper is for researchers working on content moderation, education tools, or platform policy who need finer-grained detection than current binary systems provide. A reader already familiar with discourse parsing would pick up the modeling approach quickly and see its potential. It deserves a serious referee because the four-class goal addresses a real limitation in existing work and the method builds on solid prior concepts, even if the current evidence is thin. I would send it to review and ask specifically for full metrics, ablations, and direct analysis of whether the RST features remain stable under editing.

Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The manuscript introduces RACE (Rhetorical Analysis for Creator-Editor Modeling) for fine-grained four-class LLM-generated text detection. It models the creator's role via an RST-based logic graph capturing the foundational structure and the editor's role via EDU-level stylistic features. The central claim is that this dual-role decomposition allows distinguishing pure human text, pure LLM text, LLM-polished human text, and humanized LLM text, with experiments showing superiority over 12 baselines and low false positive rates.

Significance. Should the dual signatures prove separable and the empirical gains robust, this contributes a policy-aligned approach to LLM regulation by enabling finer distinctions than binary or ternary detectors. The application of established RST and EDU concepts to this new task is a strength, providing interpretable features rather than black-box classification. Credit is due for tackling the four-class setting which matches real-world collaborative scenarios.

major comments (2)

[§3.2] §3.2 (RST Graph Construction): The logic graph is constructed by applying RST parsing directly to the final text. Editor modifications can insert, delete, or re-link rhetorical relations (e.g., Evidence to Elaboration) and alter nuclearity at the EDU level. No controlled comparison of pre-edit vs. post-edit graphs or ablation isolating creator-only structure is provided, so the claimed separation of creator foundation from editor style remains unverified and load-bearing for the four-class claim.
[§4.3] §4.3 (Experimental Results): The reported outperformance over 12 baselines lacks per-class F1 scores, statistical significance tests, or ablation results removing either the RST graph or EDU features. Without these, it is unclear whether gains stem from the dual-role decomposition or simply from using a richer combined feature set.

minor comments (2)

[Abstract] Abstract: 'Low false alarms' is stated without numerical values or the precise metric (e.g., false positive rate at fixed recall).
[Figure 2] Figure 2: The EDU feature extraction diagram would benefit from explicit arrows showing how editor-style features are aggregated separately from the RST graph nodes.

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We thank the referee for the thoughtful and constructive comments on our manuscript introducing RACE for four-class fine-grained LLM-generated text detection. We address each major comment point by point below, providing clarifications and committing to revisions that strengthen the empirical support for our dual-role modeling approach.

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Referee: [§3.2] §3.2 (RST Graph Construction): The logic graph is constructed by applying RST parsing directly to the final text. Editor modifications can insert, delete, or re-link rhetorical relations (e.g., Evidence to Elaboration) and alter nuclearity at the EDU level. No controlled comparison of pre-edit vs. post-edit graphs or ablation isolating creator-only structure is provided, so the claimed separation of creator foundation from editor style remains unverified and load-bearing for the four-class claim.

Authors: We appreciate the referee's emphasis on rigorously verifying the separation between creator and editor signatures. While RST parsing is indeed applied to the final text, our design rationale is that core rhetorical relations and nuclearity at the document level predominantly encode the creator's logical foundation, whereas editor interventions manifest more prominently in local EDU-level stylistic variations. To directly address the concern, we will add a controlled comparison in the revised manuscript: for the LLM-polished human and humanized LLM classes, we will compute and report differences in RST graphs between pre-edit (original) and post-edit versions, quantifying changes in relations and nuclearity. We will also include an ablation using only the RST graph features to isolate the creator component's contribution to four-class performance. revision: yes
Referee: [§4.3] §4.3 (Experimental Results): The reported outperformance over 12 baselines lacks per-class F1 scores, statistical significance tests, or ablation results removing either the RST graph or EDU features. Without these, it is unclear whether gains stem from the dual-role decomposition or simply from using a richer combined feature set.

Authors: We agree that these additional analyses are essential to substantiate the benefits of the dual-role decomposition. In the revised version, we will report per-class F1 scores for RACE and all 12 baselines. We will also add statistical significance testing (via paired t-tests across five random seeds) for the reported improvements. Furthermore, we will include ablation studies: (1) RACE without the RST graph (EDU features only), (2) RACE without EDU features (RST graph only), and (3) comparison against a simple concatenation baseline. These results will clarify that performance gains derive from modeling the distinct creator and editor roles rather than feature richness alone. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: established RST/EDU applied to new task without self-referential reduction

full rationale

The paper introduces RACE for four-class LLM text detection by applying Rhetorical Structure Theory to build logic graphs for the creator and EDU-level features for the editor. These are standard, externally defined frameworks from prior discourse analysis literature, not derived or fitted within the paper itself. No equations, parameters, or self-citations are shown to reduce the core method or claims back to the inputs by construction. Experiments compare against 12 external baselines, confirming the approach remains self-contained against independent benchmarks rather than tautological.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 2 axioms · 0 invented entities

The approach rests on standard discourse analysis tools applied to a new detection task; no new entities are postulated and no free parameters are described in the abstract.

axioms (2)

domain assumption Rhetorical Structure Theory can reliably represent the logical foundation of text created by a human or model.
Invoked when constructing the logic graph for the creator role.
domain assumption Elementary Discourse Unit level features capture editor-specific stylistic modifications.
Invoked when extracting features for the editor role.

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