REVIEW 4 major objections 6 minor 23 references
Are encoders able to learn landmarkers for warm-starting of Hyperparameter Optimization?
T0 review · 4 major / 6 minor · reviewed 2026-08-06 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read The paper asks whether neural encoders can learn tabular dataset representations that capture landmarker information and whether that helps warm-start Bayesian hyperparameter optimization (HPO).
desk verdict Useful but not conclusive: the paper's 'alignment doesn't transfer' claim needs an oracle warm-start baseline before it holds. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing mechanism is the Requirement formulated in the introduction: distances between representations of datasets should align with distances between the corresponding landmarkers, where a landmarker vector records the performances of a fixed portfolio of hyperparameter configurations on a dataset. The paper implements this requirement in two loss functions. The metric-learning loss (Eq. 1) minimizes the mean squared difference between the Euclidean distance $d(\varphi(X^{(i,1)}, y^{(i,1)}), \varphi(X^{(i,2)}, y^{(i,2)}))$ of two encoded datasets and the Euclidean distance $d(l^{(i,1)}, l^{(i,2)})$ of their landmarker vectors. The reconstruction loss (Eq. 2) minimizes the mean squared error between a predicted landmarker vector and the true one, using the predicted vector as the dataset representation. The evaluation metric (Eq. 3) measures the Spearman correlation between representation distances and landmarker distances, and it is this correlation that the paper uses to judge whether the Requirement is fulfilled.
What would settle it
Run the same warm-start protocol but replace encoder representations with the exact landmarker vectors in the nearest-neighbor search; if this oracle representation fails to improve over random portfolio selection at the end of optimization, the paper's claim that HPO is largely robust to warm-start selection is confirmed, while if it succeeds, the encoders' weak alignment is the bottleneck.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
On the paper's own terms, the central discovery is a negative result with a positive component: the proposed encoders can satisfy the proposed Requirement, that Euclidean distances between dataset representations align with Euclidean distances between landmarker vectors, but this alignment does not translate into significant gains in warm-starting Bayesian HPO. Training Dataset2Vec with a metric-learning loss raises the Spearman correlation between representation distances and landmarker distances from 0.037 to 0.332, and the reconstruction approach reaches 0.470 when distances are measured to predicted landmarkers. Yet in the warm-start evaluation, after the full Bayesian HPO run, even the true-landmarker selection method is not statistically distinguishable from no warm-start or random portfolio selection, and the encoder-based methods are statistically indistinguishable from other portfolio-based baselines. The paper thus establishes that the link between representation-to-landmarker distance alignment and downstream HPO performance is weak.
Load-bearing premise
The paper assumes that making dataset-representation distances match landmarker distances is enough signal to produce useful warm-start configurations for Bayesian HPO; if that assumption fails, the whole encoder-design strategy loses its justification.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Evaluating encoders by how well their distances correlate with landmarker distances can be misleading, because high correlation does not imply usefulness in warm-starting HPO.
- Encoder-based warm-starting can partially substitute true landmarkers in the initial phase of Bayesian HPO, as the proposed methods are statistically indistinguishable from the landmarker upper bound just after warm-start.
- After a full Bayesian HPO run, the choice of warm-start approach has no statistically significant effect, since even the true-landmarker method is indistinguishable from random portfolio selection.
- General-purpose representations like plain Dataset2Vec carry almost no landmarker information, with a correlation of 0.037, so task-specific training is needed if landmarker information is the goal.
Reading between the lines
- A natural extension the authors leave implicit is to test the distance-alignment requirement on other meta-tasks, such as model selection or dataset recommendation, where neighbor quality may matter more than in a 20-iteration Bayesian HPO run.
- The results suggest that portfolio construction itself, with 100 configurations chosen by tournament selection over clusters, may dominate warm-start quality; representation learning might show larger gains with a larger or more carefully stratified portfolio.
- One could design a stricter test of the Requirement by training the encoder to preserve only the ordering of landmarker distances to the target dataset, which is the information the nearest-neighbor warm-start step actually uses.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes two encoder-based methods for representing tabular datasets, specifically designed for warm-starting Bayesian hyperparameter optimization (HPO). The core idea is a "Requirement": distances between dataset representations should align with distances between landmarker vectors (performance vectors of a portfolio of configurations). The first method trains a Dataset2Vec-style encoder with a metric-learning loss (Eq. 1) that minimizes the MSE between representation distances and landmarker distances. The second method adds a reconstruction head that predicts the landmarker vector from the latent representation, using the predicted vector as the dataset representation (Eq. 2). The encoders are evaluated on a meta-dataset of ~700 OpenML binary classification tasks with xgboost, using (i) distance correlation (Eqs. 3–4, Table 1) and (ii) warm-start gains in Bayesian HPO measured by ADTM and CD plots (Figs. 3–4). The main findings are that the proposed encoders achieve higher correlation with landmarker distances than the Dataset2Vec baseline, but these representations do not yield statistically significant improvements over random or heuristic baselines after full HPO optimization; even the true-landmarker baseline is not statistically distinguishable from baselines after 20 iterations. The authors conclude that encoder alignment with landmarkers may not directly translate to HPO warm-starting gains.
Significance. If the results are taken at face value, the paper provides a valuable negative result for the meta-learning community: it demonstrates that optimizing a dataset-representation objective to match landmarker distances does not automatically improve downstream HPO warm-starting. This challenges the assumption that such distance alignment is a sufficient signal for transfer in Bayesian HPO. The paper also contributes two concrete encoder architectures and a reproducible evaluation pipeline, with code provided. The evaluation design is thoughtful in separating the alignment metric from the target meta-task. However, the central negative claim is currently confounded by the warm-start selection algorithm used for all methods, including the landmarker baseline, which prevents the paper from establishing that the representation objective itself is the limiting factor. If the oracle experiment recommended below confirms the results, the paper would be a solid, useful contribution.
major comments (4)
- [§4.4 and §4.5.3 (Landmarkers baseline and Warm-start results)] The landmarker baseline is described as an upper bound (§4.4, item 4), but it is implemented as a k-NN selector that retrieves the k=5 nearest datasets in landmarker space and proposes the best configuration from each. This is not an upper bound for warm-starting: Euclidean nearest neighbors in a 100-dimensional landmarker space need not be the datasets whose best configurations transfer to the target, and choosing one configuration per neighbor is a weak way to use even perfect landmarker information. Consequently, the observation in §4.5.3 and Figure 4b that the landmarker baseline is statistically indistinguishable from random after 20 HPO iterations may reflect the selection algorithm rather than the informative content of landmarkers or the proposed encoders. To support the abstract's claim that encoder alignment with landmarkers 'may not directly translate' to HPO gains, the authors should add an oracle baseline: for each target dataset, select the portfolio configuration that has the best true landmarker performance (or the best actual performance after evaluation) as the warm-start point. If that oracle also shows no significant gains after full optimization, then the negative conclusion would be sound. Until such an experiment is run, the central claim is not fully established.
- [§4.5.1 (Encoders training)] The numerical comparison for the landmark reconstructor is internally inconsistent: the text states 'landmarker reconstructor with reconstruction loss of 0.0307, which is lower than the initial value at the beginning of the training – 0.0256'. Since 0.0307 > 0.0256, the claim that the loss decreased is false under the stated numbers. Either the reported final loss should be lower than the initial loss (e.g., swapping the values or correcting the printed figures), or the sentence should be rewritten to say the final loss is higher, which would contradict the claim that the method learned. This is a load-bearing detail because it is part of the evidence that the reconstructor successfully minimized its objective. Please correct the numbers and the comparison.
- [Eq. (3) and Table 1] The distance-correlation metric defined in Eq. (3) measures exactly the alignment that the metric-learning encoder's loss (Eq. (1)) optimizes during training, namely the correspondence between Euclidean distances of representations and Euclidean distances of landmarkers. Therefore, the high correlation reported for the metric-based encoder (0.332) in Table 1 is, to a substantial degree, a check of whether the training objective generalizes to held-out dataset pairs, rather than an independent confirmation that the representation captures landmarker properties beyond the optimized objective. The paper should explicitly acknowledge this overlap and, ideally, add an evaluation that is not directly aligned with the training loss—for example, the correlation of the predicted landmarker distances (Eq. 4) for the metric method, or a downstream task that tests transfer of the representation without being part of the loss.
- [Table 1 and §4.3.1] Table 1 mixes two different correlation formulas without clear labeling: for Dataset2Vec basic and metric learning, it reports Eq. (3) (correlation between representation distances and landmarker distances), whereas for the reconstruction approach it reports Eq. (4) (correlation between distances from reconstructed landmarkers to true landmarkers and true landmarker distances). These metrics are not directly comparable, yet the table presents them side by side under a single 'Correlation' column. This makes the cross-method comparisons in the table misleading. The authors should either report a single common metric for all methods (e.g., Eq. (3) for all, or a separate table column for each metric) or clearly annotate which rows use which equation and avoid implicit comparisons across rows.
minor comments (6)
- [§4.2] The sentence 'The is performed in three steps' contains a typo; it should read 'This is performed in three steps' or 'The selection is performed in three steps'.
- [§4.5.3] The reference to 'In Figure 3a' and 'In Figure 3b' is ambiguous: the text says 'In Figure 3a, we present an ADTM plot... In Figure 3b, we extend that comparison showing scaled values...' but it is not clear which panel corresponds to which description. Also, the sentence 'the landmarker reconstruction is better than metric learning' should cite the specific panel and metric supporting this claim.
- [Eq. (1) and Eq. (2)] The notation for indices is unclear: in Eq. (1), the pair index i is used to sum over N pairs, but the terms inside the summation are written with superscripts (i,1) and (i,2). Please clarify the indexing of the datasets and the summation bounds. Similarly, in Eq. (2), the subscript n is used in the sum but the terms are written with index i; the notation should be made consistent.
- [Table 1] The standard deviations are reported over S=20 samples, but the number of dataset pairs N=1000 is not stated in the table caption. Please include the sample size and the definition of 'correlation' (Spearman) directly in the caption, and add a statistical test (e.g., confidence intervals or p-values) for the claim that correlations are 'significantly higher than 0'.
- [§1 and §5] The term 'formulated by ourselves' in the abstract is informal; consider replacing with 'proposed'. Also, in §5, the phrase 'too weak information' is grammatically incorrect; it should be 'too weak' or 'insufficient information'.
- [§2] 'meta-validation serves as the set of data on which we calculate metrics' should be 'set of datasets' (or 'data') for grammatical agreement. Additionally, the dashed/dotted/solid line explanation in Figure 1 is not referenced in the text; please add a brief description of what each line type indicates.
Circularity Check
Distance-correlation evaluation is a self-referential check of the training objective, but the central HPO warm-start claim is independently tested.
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self definitional
[Section 3.2 (Eq. 1), Section 4.3.1 (Eq. 3), Table 1, Abstract]
"Distances between representations of the datasets should align with the distances between corresponding landmarkers. ... 𝑙𝑜𝑠𝑠 𝑚𝑒𝑡𝑟𝑖𝑐 = 1/𝑁 ∑ 𝑑(𝜑(𝑋(𝑖,1), 𝑦(𝑖,1)), 𝜑(𝑋(𝑖,2), 𝑦(𝑖,2)))^2 − 𝑑(𝑙(𝑖,1), 𝑙(𝑖,2))^2 (1) ... 𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑟([𝑑(𝜑(𝑋(𝑖,1), 𝑦(𝑖,1)), 𝜑(𝑋(𝑖,2), 𝑦(𝑖,2)))] 𝑖=1,...,𝑁 ,[𝑑(𝑙(𝑖,1), 𝑙(𝑖,2))] 𝑖=1,...,𝑁) (3)"
The metric-learning encoder is trained (Eq. 1) to minimize the discrepancy between the distance vectors d(φ,φ) and d(l,l); the primary evaluation metric (Eq. 3) is the Spearman correlation between exactly those same two distance vectors, reported in Table 1 as evidence that the encoders 'can effectively learn representations aligned with landmarkers' (Abstract). On training pairs, low Eq. 1 loss forces this correlation near 1 by construction; on the held-out pairs in Table 1 it remains a generalization check of the same objective, not an independent meta-task measure. For the reconstruction variant the relation is even more direct, since the representation is the predicted landmarker vector. The HPO warm-start evaluation (Figs.
full rationale
The core derivation chain — define the landmarker-alignment Requirement, train encoders with Eq. 1/Eq. 2, and then test warm-start gains in Bayesian HPO (Figs. 3-4) — is self-contained and does not reduce to its inputs. The negative HPO finding is the paper's main empirical claim and is evaluated against independent baselines (no warm-start, random from portfolio, rank heuristic) and the true-landmarker selector. The distance-correlation metric (Eq. 3, Table 1) is a self-referential diagnostic: it measures the same alignment that the metric loss (Eq. 1) enforces, so the abstract's statement that encoders 'can effectively learn representations aligned with landmarkers' is partly a restatement of training-objective generalization; the paper transparently labels this metric as 'the degree of fulfillment of the proposed requirement.' There is one self-citation (Płudowski et al. 2024, sharing two present authors) used to motivate task-specific representations, but the paper independently tests the general Dataset2Vec baseline (Table 1, corr 0.037) and reproduces the insufficiency, so the citation is not load-bearing. The landmarker baseline is called an 'upper bound' but is only a k-NN selector; this threatens the validity of the negative conclusion (the true-landmarker baseline may itself be weak), but that is an experimental-design concern, not circularity. No uniqueness theorems or ansatz-smuggling citations appear.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (4)
- portfolio size (number of clusters) =
100
- warm-start count =
5
- HPO iterations =
20
- correlation sample pairs S =
20
assumptions (3)
- domain assumption Landmarker distance is a useful proxy for dataset similarity for warm-starting
- domain assumption Dataset2Vec (DeepSets) has the capacity to encode the necessary dataset structure
- domain assumption Euclidean distance is the appropriate metric in both representation and landmarker space
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of Are encoders able to learn landmarkers for warm-starting of Hyperparameter Optimization?." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/IAWB5UU5
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read the original abstract
Effectively representing heterogeneous tabular datasets for meta-learning purposes is still an open problem. Previous approaches rely on representations that are intended to be universal. This paper proposes two novel methods for tabular representation learning tailored to a specific meta-task - warm-starting Bayesian Hyperparameter Optimization. Both follow the specific requirement formulated by ourselves that enforces representations to capture the properties of landmarkers. The first approach involves deep metric learning, while the second one is based on landmarkers reconstruction. We evaluate the proposed encoders in two ways. Next to the gain in the target meta-task, we also use the degree of fulfillment of the proposed requirement as the evaluation metric. Experiments demonstrate that while the proposed encoders can effectively learn representations aligned with landmarkers, they may not directly translate to significant performance gains in the meta-task of HPO warm-starting.
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