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ViViD-5K: Vineyard vision dataset for field-based berry detection and segmentation and grape cluster closure estimation

T0 review · 2 major / 2 minor · reviewed 2026-06-30 · grok-4.3

Pith's one-line read A new dataset of 5,000 vineyard images with 648,000 berry annotations enables automated estimation of grape cluster closure.

desk verdict ViViD-5K supplies a sizable new berry-annotated vineyard dataset and a SAM-based pipeline, but missing annotation validation details undercuts the accuracy and generalization claims. read the letter →

arxiv 2605.24353 v1 pith:J6VCDZZA submitted 2026-05-23 cs.CV q-bio.OT

classification cs.CVq-bio.OT
keywords vineyarddatasetberrydetectiongrapeclustersegmentationclosureestimationcomputervisionagriculturalimagingsegmentanythingmodel
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The reading

The paper establishes that fine-grained berry-level data has been missing for vineyard computer vision, which has blocked objective measurement of cluster closure. Cluster closure tracks how gaps between berries fill in and directly influences disease risk, yet current scoring relies on slow, subjective human judgment. By releasing ViViD-5K with dense centroid and mask labels across thirteen varieties, the work supplies the training resource needed for models that localize individual berries and delineate clusters. A two-stage pipeline then uses these labels to produce closure estimates from field images with little additional supervision. The reported counting and segmentation accuracy plus out-of-domain visualizations are presented as evidence that the approach can scale to practical vineyard use.

What carries the argument

ViViD-5K dataset paired with the GrapeSAM two-stage pipeline that links point-based berry localization to prompt-driven segmentation and transformer cluster delineation.

What would settle it

Models trained on ViViD-5K produce berry counts or closure scores that deviate substantially from human ground truth when tested on images from a vineyard using grape varieties or lighting conditions absent from the thirteen varieties in the released set.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

ViViD-5K supplies 5,000 field images containing over 648,000 manually marked berry centroids together with cluster segmentation masks spanning thirteen grape varieties; the accompanying GrapeSAM pipeline first locates berries from point prompts, then applies Segment Anything for mask generation and a transformer for cluster-level segmentation, thereby producing automated, in-field cluster-closure estimates that match or exceed manual methods across varied conditions.

Load-bearing premise

The dense manual berry-centroid and cluster-mask annotations are accurate enough and representative enough to train models that generalize to real vineyard conditions and unseen varieties.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Automated closure estimates can replace labor-intensive visual scoring while increasing temporal resolution.
  • The same pipeline supports high-throughput phenotyping across multiple grape varieties with minimal new labeling.
  • Objective closure data can be generated at field scale to inform disease-risk decisions.
  • Robust performance on both in-domain and out-of-domain samples indicates the dataset covers sufficient visual diversity for initial deployment.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Integration with time-series imagery could turn closure estimates into growth-rate measurements rather than single-time snapshots.
  • The minimal-supervision design may allow rapid adaptation to new regions by adding only a few point labels per new cluster.
  • Closure outputs could be fused with weather or disease models to test whether automated scores improve spray-timing predictions.
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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper presents ViViD-5K, a dataset of 5,000 in-field vineyard images with dense annotations comprising over 648,000 berry centroids and cluster segmentation masks across 13 grape varieties. It introduces the GrapeSAM two-stage pipeline combining point-based berry localization, prompt-based segmentation via Segment Anything, and transformer-based cluster segmentation to enable automated in-field cluster closure estimation with minimal supervision. The authors assert that quantitative results show strong segmentation and counting accuracy across diverse conditions and that visualizations confirm robustness on in-domain and out-of-domain samples.

Significance. A large-scale, densely annotated vineyard dataset focused on berry-level detail would address a clear gap in computer vision resources for agriculture, potentially supporting improved models for phenotyping and disease-risk assessment via cluster closure. The pipeline's use of existing foundation models like SAM with minimal supervision is a practical strength if the empirical claims are substantiated.

major comments (2)
  1. [Dataset construction / annotation protocol] The central empirical claims rest on the accuracy of the 648k manual berry centroid annotations, yet no validation of annotation quality (e.g., inter-annotator agreement, repeated labeling, or expert review) is described. Without this, reported segmentation and counting metrics may reflect label noise rather than model performance, directly undermining generalization claims to new varieties and real vineyard conditions.
  2. [Abstract / Results] The abstract states that 'quantitative results demonstrate strong segmentation and counting accuracy' but supplies no numerical values, error bars, validation splits, ablation studies, or baseline comparisons. This prevents assessment of whether the GrapeSAM pipeline's performance is load-bearing or merely consistent with the provided annotations.
minor comments (2)
  1. [Methods] Clarify the exact definition and computation of 'cluster closure' (e.g., as a percentage or ratio) and how it is derived from the cluster masks in the pipeline.
  2. [Experiments] The out-of-domain robustness claim would benefit from explicit description of the held-out varieties or imaging conditions used for testing.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the constructive feedback on our manuscript. Below we provide point-by-point responses to the major comments, indicating planned revisions where appropriate.

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  1. Referee: [Dataset construction / annotation protocol] The central empirical claims rest on the accuracy of the 648k manual berry centroid annotations, yet no validation of annotation quality (e.g., inter-annotator agreement, repeated labeling, or expert review) is described. Without this, reported segmentation and counting metrics may reflect label noise rather than model performance, directly undermining generalization claims to new varieties and real vineyard conditions.

    Authors: We agree that explicit validation of annotation quality strengthens the empirical claims. The annotations were produced by trained annotators following a standardized protocol developed in consultation with viticulture experts; however, the current manuscript does not report quantitative measures such as inter-annotator agreement. We will expand the dataset section with a detailed description of the annotation protocol and quality-control steps. We will also report inter-annotator agreement computed on a held-out subset if the additional labeling effort can be completed within the revision timeline. revision: partial

  2. Referee: [Abstract / Results] The abstract states that 'quantitative results demonstrate strong segmentation and counting accuracy' but supplies no numerical values, error bars, validation splits, ablation studies, or baseline comparisons. This prevents assessment of whether the GrapeSAM pipeline's performance is load-bearing or merely consistent with the provided annotations.

    Authors: The abstract is intentionally concise and defers specific metrics to the results section, which contains the requested quantitative values, validation splits, ablations, and baseline comparisons. To improve standalone readability we will revise the abstract to include the principal numerical results (e.g., berry-counting MAE and cluster-segmentation IoU) while remaining within length limits. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No circularity: empirical dataset release and applied pipeline

full rationale

The paper releases the ViViD-5K dataset with 5,000 images, 648k berry centroid annotations, and cluster masks across 13 varieties, then describes an applied two-stage pipeline (GrapeSAM) combining point-based localization, Segment Anything prompting, and transformer segmentation for cluster closure estimation. No equations, parameter fits, predictions derived from fitted inputs, or self-citation chains appear in the abstract or described structure. All quantitative claims rest on direct empirical evaluation against the released annotations rather than any reduction to prior self-referential results. The work is therefore self-contained as a dataset-plus-pipeline contribution with no load-bearing steps that collapse by construction.

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Empirical computer-vision dataset and application paper; contains no mathematical derivations, fitted constants, or postulated entities.

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read the original abstract

Cluster closure, defined as the progressive filling of gaps between the berries in a grape bunch, is a key trait in vineyard management, impacting disease risk. However, traditional visual scoring methods are labor-intensive, subjective, and lack temporal resolution. Existing datasets rarely support fine-grained berry-level analysis, limiting the development of robust deep learning models. In this work, we present ViViD-5k, a large-scale in-field Vineyard Vision Dataset containing 5,000 images with dense annotations, including over 648,000 berry centroids and cluster segmentation masks spanning 13 grape varieties. Building on this dataset, we introduce GrapeSAM, a two-stage visual pipeline that combines point-based berry localization with prompt-based segmentation using Segment Anything, followed by transformer-based cluster segmentation. The pipeline enables automated, in-field estimation of cluster closure with minimal supervision. Quantitative results demonstrate strong segmentation and counting accuracy across diverse conditions, while visualizations confirm robustness on both in-domain and out-of-domain samples. This work provides a scalable and objective alternative to manual compactness scoring and supports high-throughput grape phenotyping with enhanced spatial detail.

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Figures reproduced from arXiv: 2605.24353 by the authors.

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Figure 1. Image source distribution of ViViD-5K. It is noteworthy that although majority of raw [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 2. Visualization 1of example images containing cluster bounding box and mask and berry point labels in ViViD-5K. The distributions of grape cluster instances and berry points per image exhibit long tail patterns ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_2.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Grape and Berry Instance Frequency Count per File. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p006_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: Diagram of GrapeSAM, the baseline approach for instance segmentation of grape clusters [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p009_4.png]
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Figure 5. Figure 5: Representative inference results of in-domain images. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p012_5.png]
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Figure 6. Figure 6: Representative inference results of out-of-domain images. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p013_6.png]
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Figure 7. Figure 7: Qualitative results of the effectiveness of IQR-filtering. Each row corresponds to a specific [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p014_7.png]
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Figure 8. Figure 8: Boxplot of log-transformed instance area from individual berry masks segmented by the [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p015_8.png]
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Figure 9. Figure 9: Basal Cluster Growth (??) Cluster Closure Temporal Variation. (??) Periodical Segmen￾tation Samples [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_9.png]

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