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On loop space self avoiding string representations for QCD(SU(infinity))

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Pith's one-line read This paper proposes that SU(∞) QCD is exactly represented by a self-avoiding string path integral whose amplitudes give the meson S-matrix.

desk verdict A candid but unsupported restatement of the author's own decade-old proposal; the key step that eq. (11) solves eq. (7-b) is asserted, not shown in this manuscript. read the letter →

arxiv 1909.01082 v1 pith:M4EHBE4B submitted 2019-08-20 physics.gen-ph hep-th

Luiz C L Botelho This is my paper · ORCID
classification physics.gen-phhep-th
keywords self-avoidingstringrepresentationloopspaceQCDlarge-NSU(∞)limitWilsonwavefunctionalpathintegralmesonS-matrixU(11)Gross-Neveumodelrandomsurfaces
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The reading

This paper argues that SU(∞) QCD, whose continuum Yang-Mills path integral is mathematically ill-defined, can be replaced by a self-avoiding string path integral. Starting from the Wilson-loop wave functional, the paper writes a functional loop-space wave equation for the SU(∞) theory under large-N factorization, and then proposes that a specific interacting string path integral over self-avoiding random surfaces solves that equation. If this holds, correlation functions of color-singlet quark bilinears are defined by string vertex scattering amplitudes, so the meson S-matrix and mass spectrum follow without directly quantizing the Yang-Mills field. The paper acknowledges in Appendix 1 that the large-N factorization step at the heart of the argument has not been fully proved.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the pair consisting of the loop-space wave equation (7-b) and its proposed solution, the self-avoiding string path integral (11). Equation (7-b) is a functional Laplace-type equation for the normalized Wilson loop $\Phi_\infty$, obtained from the Schwinger-Dyson loop equation after imposing large-N factorization of gauge-invariant observables and assuming an isotropic Yang-Mills condensate $\langle F^2\rangle$; its quadratic self-interaction term is what makes the equation non-linear. Equation (11) implements the random-surface sum and adds a quartic self-avoidance interaction built from the normalized surface area tensor $I_{\mu\nu}(X(\xi))$, which enforces exclusion of self-intersections and, at $D=4$, is claimed to reduce to a $U(11)$ Gross-Neveu model on the worldsheet.

What would settle it

Evaluate the string path integral (11) for a circular loop of radius $R$ in $D=4$, substitute the result into the loop wave equation (7-b), and check that the equality holds for all $R$ and reproduces the large-$R$ area-law decay of the Wilson loop; a mismatch would falsify the claimed solution.

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Core claim

On the author's own terms, the central discovery is that the ill-defined quantum field theory QCD($\mathrm{SU}(\infty)$) has a well-defined string description: the Wilson-loop wave functional $\Phi_\infty[X^\mu(\sigma)]$ is claimed to satisfy the loop-space wave equation (7-b), and the self-avoiding string path integral (11) is proposed as a solution of that equation. Equation (13) then declares that the averaged quark determinant equals a functional integral over loop boundaries weighted by $\Phi_\infty$, so on-shell string vertex amplitudes generate the meson S-matrix. Summed over all surface genera, this string representation is meant to replace the ill-defined Yang-Mills path integral as the definition of large-N QCD.

Load-bearing premise

The construction rests on the large-N factorization of gauge-invariant observables in $\mathrm{SU}(\infty)$ Yang-Mills, which Appendix 1 explicitly says has not been fully proved; if that factorization fails, the loop wave equation and the string representation built on it have no foundation.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • The continuum object one should quantize is no longer the Yang-Mills field but the self-avoiding string, with all gauge-invariant observables of SU(∞) QCD expressed through the boundary values of the string surface.
  • Color-singlet quark bilinear correlation functions become on-shell string scattering amplitudes, so the meson S-matrix and its mass spectrum are determined by the string path integral (11) rather than by perturbative QCD.
  • The free-string conformal anomaly is cancelled by the condition $D+N=26$, so with $D=4$ the compensating sector consists of $N=22$ neutral fermions; the self-avoiding interaction is what makes the theory interacting at $D=4$.
  • Summing the string path integral over all surface genera supplies the unitarization of the large-N amplitudes, which the paper identifies as the step needed to move from SU(∞) toward finite-N QCD.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • A natural check is to evaluate eq. (11) on a circular loop or in the constant-field configuration and verify eq. (7-b) term by term; the paper asserts the solution but does not display such a check.
  • The reduction of the self-avoidance term to a $U(11)$ Gross-Neveu model on the worldsheet suggests the string theory may be integrable, which would connect the loop-space equation to an integrable two-dimensional theory; this implication is left implicit in the paper.
  • Because the construction is non-perturbative in the gauge coupling but depends on the large-N limit, a testable extension would be to compare the meson masses obtained from the string representation with lattice QCD at large N; the paper sketches the formalism but does not perform that comparison.
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Referee Report

4 major / 5 minor

Summary. This manuscript is a research announcement that revisits the author's earlier proposal to represent large-N QCD (SU(∞)) in terms of a self-avoiding string path integral in loop space. It writes formal functional-integral formulas for the quark determinant and Wilson loop (Eqs. (1)-(6)), states a nonlinear loop-space wave equation for the Wilson loop at large N (Eq. (7-b)), and claims that the two-dimensional path integral in Eq. (11) solves this equation. From this it concludes that 'Q.C.D is thus analitically solved' by a string path integral over all genera, and proposes Eq. (13) as the correct string definition of QCD(SU(∞)), with mesonic S-matrix amplitudes as the physical output. The manuscript is candid about the limitations: Eqs. (1)-(6) are called 'only suggestive', Eq. (3) is 'not well understood', Eq. (5) is 'somewhat mathematically formal', the factorization underlying Eq. (7-b) is admitted in Appendix 1 to be 'not fully proved', and the solution property of Eq. (11) is attributed to previous papers via 'it is argued'. Substantial portions of the technical content are deferred to appendices that are themselves sketches.

Significance. If the claims were established, this would be a major result: an exact string representation of QCD in the large-N limit, a derivation of the meson S-matrix, and an explanation of QCD as a self-avoiding random-surface theory. The manuscript deserves credit for specifying an explicit string action (Eq. (11)) whose functional-differential and self-intersection properties are, in principle, checkable, and for being transparent that the continuum formalism is ill-defined. However, the paper verifies none of the load-bearing steps. It does not derive Eq. (7-b) from QCD, it does not show that Eq. (11) satisfies Eq. (7-b), and it does not evaluate Eq. (13) against any known QCD datum. The only concrete reduction stated, to a U(11) Gross-Neveu model, is introduced by 'one can expect'. Thus the paper offers a research program and a conjecture, not an analytic solution.

major comments (4)
  1. [Section 1.3, Eq. (11)] The central assertion that the path integral (11) solves the loop wave equation (7-b) is not established in this manuscript. The text says only that 'it is argued ([1],[8],[10])' that the path integral solves the equation, and later states that Eq. (11) 'should be evaluated explicitly' and only afterward 'one expects' the Wilson loop to be well defined. No variation of (11) with respect to the boundary curve is performed, no regularization is specified for the functional derivatives, and no dictionary is given between the QCD parameters in (7-b) (g∞ and ⟨F²⟩) and the string parameters in (11) (α′, λ0) except the ad hoc setting ⟨F²⟩=1/πα′=1. This is a load-bearing gap.
  2. [Appendix 1, Eq. (7-b)] The loop equation (7-b) itself is presented as a consequence of large-N factorization of gauge-invariant observables, but Appendix 1 states that this factorization 'has not been fully proved in our opinion' and that the equation 'should be better regarded perhaps in the framework of Random Matrix Theory'. Thus the equation that Eq. (11) is supposed to solve is itself only a working hypothesis. The manuscript needs either a proof that the factorization holds in a well-defined lattice or random-matrix setting, or a demonstration that solutions of (7-b) match known large-N QCD predictions (for example, the area law for the Wilson loop). Without this, the connection to QCD is not established.
  3. [Section 1.3, Eq. (13)] Equation (13) is proposed as 'the correct (string) definition of Q.C.D(SU(∞))', but the proposal is conditional and untested. The text says the string path integral 'should be evaluated explicitly' and that the replacement of the QCD Wilson loop is only an expectation. No comparison is made with lattice QCD, with standard large-N results, or even with a single known quantity such as the string tension or meson Regge trajectory. The claim that 'Q.C.D is thus analitically solved' is therefore not supported by the arguments contained in the paper.
  4. [Section 1.3, U(11) Gross-Neveu reduction] The reduction of the quartic self-avoiding term to a U(11) Gross-Neveu model is not derived. It rests on the formal identity δ(D)(X(ξ)-X(ξ′)) = δ(2)(ξ-ξ′)δ(D-2)(0)/(2^{D/2} h^{D/8}(X(ξ))), which is applied without regularization, and the text introduces the result by 'one can expect'. Since the paper identifies this interaction as the source of the string's interacting character, a derivation with a specified regularization is needed before this part of the claim can be assessed.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Title/Abstract] There are numerous typographical errors, including 'loop pace' in the abstract and the tripled 'Q.C.D(SU (∞))' in the title header; the manuscript needs careful proofreading.
  2. [Section 1.2, Eq. (3)] The path-integral measure in Eq. (3) is not defined: the boundary conditions Xμ(0)=Xμ(t)=x are combined with an integral over dDx and phase-space variables, and the ordering of the Dirac and color path-ordered exponentials is ambiguous. Please specify the measure and the discretization.
  3. [Section 1.3, Eq. (7-b)] In Eq. (7-b), the factors Φ∞[Xμ(σ~); 0≤σ~≤σbar] and Φ∞[Xμ(σ~); σbar≤σ~≤2π] should be defined explicitly as Wilson loops on the two subloops; as written, they are not quantities introduced before.
  4. [General] The claim that Eq. (11) solves Eq. (7-b) is attributed to the author's previous works ([1],[8],[10]); the manuscript should state precisely which result in each reference is being invoked and reproduce the key steps, since the present text does not make the argument self-contained.
  5. [Appendix 2] The evaluation of the anomaly in Appendix 2 is described as 'sketchy' and depends on many symbols that are introduced in passing (e.g., δ(F)_cov, β(ξ), μ_R); a fuller definition is needed for the reader to follow the argument.

Circularity Check

3 steps flagged · score 8.0 of 10

Central claim that Eq. (11) solves Eq. (7-b) is imported from same-author references and never demonstrated; Appendix 1 concedes the input equation itself is unproved.

  1. self citation load bearing [Section 1.3, before Eq. (11)]
    "At this point it is argued ([1],[8],[10]) that the following two-dimensional path integral, with a neutral set of N = 22 fermions solve the ( Q.C.D(SU(∞)) loop wave equation eq(7-b) (with ⟨0|F 2|0⟩SU(∞) = 1/πα′ = 1 and ξ = (σ,τ))."

    The paper's central positive claim—that Eq. (11) satisfies the loop-space wave equation Eq. (7-b)—is not demonstrated in this manuscript. It is referred to refs. [1], [8], and [10], all prior papers by the same author. This citation is load-bearing because the subsequent conclusions, including 'Q.C.D is thus analitically solved' and that Eq. (13) 'should be the correct (string) definition of Q.C.D(SU(∞))', depend entirely on it. No functional variation of Eq. (11) with respect to the boundary loop is performed here, and later the paper concedes that Eq. (11) 'should be evaluated explicitly' before the Wilson loop is expected to be well-defined. The asserted solution therefore reduces to a self-citation chain rather than to an independent check.

  2. other [Appendix 1]
    "However this suggestion has not been fully proved in our opinion. The loop equation eq(1-2) should be better regarded perhaps in the framework of Random Matrix Theory. As a result one gets eq(7-b) written in the main text."

    This is an explicitly admitted missing proof rather than a circular reduction, but it is a self-reported limitation that must be weighed. It says that Eq. (7-b), the very equation whose solution is the paper's central claim, rests on a large-N factorization of gauge-invariant observables that the author states 'has not been fully proved in our opinion.' This removes independent support for the input of the derivation chain and makes the later citation-based assertion that Eq. (11) solves Eq. (7-b) carry the entire argument.

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  1. other [Section 1.3, after Eq. (11) and before Eq. (13)]
    "Q.C.D is thus analitically solved through interpreting eq(11) as a string path integral extended to all surface genus (somewhat related the Mandelstam light-cone string path integral on euclidean space-time)."

    This is the advertised conclusion, but it is not derived in the paper. It follows immediately from the same-author citation that Eq. (11) solves Eq. (7-b), with no calculation shown. The sentence is thus a strong conclusion resting on an unverified self-citation. Later in the same section the paper states that Eq. (11) 'should be evaluated explicitly' and only after that 'one expects' the stringy Wilson loop to be well-defined, confirming that the solution step is deferred rather than established here.

full rationale

The paper is best read as a research announcement or set of clarifying comments rather than a self-contained derivation. Its advertised result—that Eq. (11) solves the SU(∞) loop wave equation and that Eq. (13) is therefore the correct string definition of QCD—is not shown in the manuscript. The only evidence offered for the solution is 'it is argued ([1],[8],[10])', all same-author citations, and no functional-variation check is performed. Appendix 1 explicitly states that the factorization leading to Eq. (7-b) 'has not been fully proved in our opinion.' Later, the paper concedes that Eq. (11) 'should be evaluated explicitly' and only after this step does it expect the Wilson loop to be well-defined. Thus the central prediction is asserted rather than derived, and its support reduces to a self-citation chain. This is not a case of fitted parameters being renamed as predictions, but it is a case where the central load-bearing equivalence is imported from the author's own prior work without independent verification or external benchmark. The score of 8 reflects that the result is forced by the self-citation chain and the paper's own admitted missing proof, rather than by a construction whose validity is shown here.

Assumptions & free parameters 2 free parameters · 4 assumptions · 2 invented entities

The paper's central claim depends almost entirely on assumptions imported from the author's own previous publications: large-N factorization, the form of the loop wave equation, the existence of a string path integral that satisfies it, and the critical-dimension condition. None of these are derived or checked in this paper, and most are acknowledged by the author to be formally unjustified.

free parameters (2)
  • Gluon condensate scale ⟨F^2⟩ = Set to 1/(πα') = 1 in eq.(11)
    The strength of the condensate appears in the loop wave equation (7-b) and is normalized to unity to simplify the string path integral; no independent determination is given.
  • Couplings λ0^2 and g∞ = Not specified
    The self-avoiding interaction strength λ0 in eq.(11) and the coupling g∞ in eq.(7-b) are left undetermined.
assumptions (4)
  • domain assumption Large-N factorization of gauge-invariant observables in SU(infinity)
    Used to derive the loop wave equation (7-b); Appendix 1 admits 'this suggestion has not been fully proved in our opinion'.
  • domain assumption The formal Yang-Mills path integral is well-defined on the lattice, and the string path integral must reproduce lattice QCD
    The paper argues the continuum theory is ill-defined and only the lattice version is meaningful, yet uses continuum formulas as the basis for the string representation.
  • ad hoc to paper The string path integral in eq.(11) satisfies the loop wave equation (7-b)
    This is the central asserted 'solution'; no derivation is given in the paper, only references to prior self-cited works.
  • standard math Conformal anomaly cancellation requires D=26 or D+N=26
    Taken from Polyakov string theory; used without proof in the text and Appendix 2.
invented entities (2)
  • Self-avoiding string worldsheet representation for QCD(SU(infinity))
    purpose: Replaces the ill-defined Yang-Mills quantum field theory with a path integral over random surfaces whose boundary is the Wilson loop.
    No falsifiable prediction or independent handle is given; the representation is asserted and built from the author's prior self-cited work.
  • U(11) Gross-Neveu model induced on the string surface
    purpose: Describes the self-avoiding interaction for D=4 after reduction of the contact term.
    The reduction is sketched without derivation and no observable signature is predicted.

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