Evaluating alternative spin scenarios of $P_{c\bar{c}}(4440)$ and $P_{c\bar{c}}(4457)$ using heavy quark symmetries

Duygu Y{\i}ld{\i}r{\i}m

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Evaluating alternative spin scenarios of P_{cbar{c}}(4440) and P_{cbar{c}}(4457) using heavy quark symmetries

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Heavy quark symmetries favor J^P = 1/2 for P_c c-bar(4440) and J^P = 3/2 for P_c c-bar(4457) as D-bar* Sigma_c molecules, allowing estimates of Xi_cc() Sigma_c() states and elimination of one spin option for P_c c-bar s(4338) and P_c c-bar s(4459).

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Heavy quark symmetries are approximate rules that become exact when a quark is very heavy, letting physicists relate the properties of particles that differ only by swapping one heavy quark for another. The authors treat the two observed states as loosely bound molecules of a charmed meson and a charmed baryon. Under this picture the symmetries link the two states to each other and to a family of partner states that contain a doubly charmed baryon instead of the meson. The same logic is extended to states that also contain a strange quark. By matching the predicted masses to existing observations, one possible spin assignment is ruled out, leaving the favored values of total angular momentum and parity for the original two states.

Core claim

One spin state appears to be favored, suggesting that P_c c-bar(4440) has J^P=1/2 and P_c c-bar(4457) has J^P=3/2.

Load-bearing premise

The assumption that the P_c c-bar(4440) and P_c c-bar(4457) states are D-bar* Sigma_c molecules to which heavy quark symmetries can be directly applied.

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Heavy quark symmetries are useful for predicting the existence of heavy states, their masses, and spin states. Despite numerous studies on the $P_{c\bar{c}}(4440)$ and $P_{c\bar{c}}(4457)$ heavy states, their spin states have not been previously determined. In this study, heavy symmetries are applied to predict the spin states. If the $P_{c\bar{c}}(4440)$ and $P_{c\bar{c}}(4457)$ states are considered $\bar{D}^*\Sigma_c$ molecules, they can be classified as heavy partners. This classification may help clarify their potential connections with heavy antiquark-diquark symmetry partners. By utilizing these alternative spin assignments and the concept of heavy antiquark-diquark symmetry, it may be possible to estimate $\Xi_{cc}^{(*)}\Sigma_c^{(*)}$ states, and ultimately, their spin states, which have not been elucidated in experiments. In addition to these symmetries, the relationship between $P_{c\bar{c}}$ and $P_{c\bar{c}s}$ pentaquarks can be constructed which supports the prediction of possible $P_{c\bar{c}s}$ states. The predicted masses of the $P_{c\bar{c}s}(4338)$ and $P_{c\bar{c}s}(4459)$ states align with several studies, allowing us to eliminate a specific spin state. One spin state appears to be favored, suggesting that $P_{c\bar{c}}(4440)$ has $J^P=\frac{1}{2}$ and $P_{c\bar{c}}(4457)$ has $J^P=\frac{3}{2}$.

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The paper uses heavy quark symmetries to favor J^P=1/2 for Pc(4440) and 3/2 for Pc(4457) under a molecular assumption, but the abstract shows no derivations or comparisons to verify the claim.

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The main takeaway is that this work applies heavy quark symmetries and heavy antiquark-diquark symmetry to assign J^P = 1/2 to the lower Pc state and 3/2 to the higher one, assuming both are D-bar* Sigma_c molecules. It then extends the same relations to predict spins for P_c c-bar s states and for Xi_cc Sigma_c molecules that have not been seen yet. The author notes that the mass estimates for the strange partners line up with a couple of other papers, which lets them drop one spin option. That cross-check is the clearest concrete step in the abstract. The approach is straightforward and stays within established symmetry tools, which is fine for organizing the spectrum of exotic charm states. It points to possible experimental targets in the doubly charmed sector without inventing new frameworks. The soft spots are straightforward. The abstract gives no mass formulas, no explicit symmetry relations, and no quantitative tables comparing predictions to data, so it is impossible to check whether the spin assignments follow directly from the symmetries or require extra tuning. The entire argument rests on the molecular picture being correct, and if that classification is only an assumption rather than a derived result, the spin claims do not stand on their own. There is also the usual risk that partner masses are adjusted to match the observed Pc peaks, which would make the predictions less independent than they appear. This is a paper for people already working on heavy exotic hadrons and effective theories in the charm sector. A reader who follows pentaquark spectroscopy might pick up the suggested links to unobserved states, but only after seeing the full derivations. It deserves a serious referee because the topic is timely and the symmetry method is standard; the review would mainly check whether the calculations are solid and free of circularity rather than whether the idea itself is worth pursuing.

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The paper assumes the P_{c c-bar}(4440) and P_{c c-bar}(4457) states are D-bar* Sigma_c molecules, applies heavy quark symmetries to classify them as heavy partners, and uses heavy antiquark-diquark symmetry to predict masses and spins of related Xi_cc and P_{c c-bar s} states. These predicted masses are compared to alignments reported in several external studies to eliminate one spin scenario and favor J^P = 1/2 for the 4440 state and J^P = 3/2 for the 4457 state. No equations or steps reduce by construction to fitted inputs, self-definitions, or load-bearing self-citations; the derivation chain is self-contained against the stated symmetry assumptions and external consistency checks.

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The central claim rests on the applicability of heavy quark symmetries to molecular pentaquark states and on the identification of symmetry partners; no explicit free parameters or new entities are introduced in the abstract.

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domain assumption Heavy quark symmetries apply to the molecular interpretation of P_c c-bar(4440) and P_c c-bar(4457)
Invoked to classify the states as heavy partners and to relate them to Xi_cc Sigma_c states

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