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Prime order torsion on elliptic curves over number fields. Part I: Asymptotics
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Pith's one-line read Conditionally on sparse 'strange' newforms, the largest prime order of rational torsion on elliptic curves over degree-d fields is at most 3d+1 for large even d and o(d) for odd d.
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Core claim
Theorem 9.1: Assume Conjectures 5.3(1) and 8.4(1). Fix m >= 1. Then there is d0(m) such that for integers d >= d0(m), (1) if d is odd, Snew(d) is contained in Primes(d/m); (2) if d is even, Snew(d) is contained in Primes(d/m) union {d/k+1 : 1 <= k <= m, k|d} union {2d+1, 3d+1}. If correct, Corollary 9.2 gives max S(d) <= 3d+1 for sufficiently large even d and max S(d) = o(d) for odd d.
Load-bearing premise
The load-bearing premise is Conjectures 5.3(1) and 8.4(1), which assert that strdim(p)/log p -> 0 and perdim(p)/log p -> 0 as p runs over primes. These are new, empirically motivated, unproved statements about the sparsity of newforms with unexpectedly high analytic rank. Theorem 7.7 depends on 5.3(1); Theorem 8.5 depends on 8.4(1); Theorem 9.1 uses both, specifically to force the degree of points on X0(p) to be even in the exceptional case. If either conjecture fails, the proof thresholds collapse.
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assumptions (6)
- ad hoc to paper Conjecture 5.3(1): strdim(p)/log p -> 0 as p runs over all primes.
- ad hoc to paper Conjecture 8.4(1): perdim(p)/log p -> 0 as p runs over all primes.
- standard math Yau-Abramovich-Kim-Sarnak gonality lower bound: gon_Q(X_H) >= (325/2^15) * (p^2 - 1)/(2#H).
- standard math Kolyvagin-Logachev and Kato: for the relevant modular abelian varieties, analytic rank zero implies Mordell-Weil rank zero, and positive analytic rank is detected by modular symbols.
- standard math Mazur's theorem: X0(p) has no non-cuspidal rational points for p > 163.
- standard math Hasse bound: for a weight 2 newform f, the eigenvalue a_2(f) satisfies |a_2(f)| <= 2*sqrt(2).
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abstract
We study the asymptotics of the set $S(d)$ of possible prime orders of $K$-rational points on elliptic curves over number fields $K$ of degree $d$ as $d$ tends to infinity. Assuming some conjectures on the sparsity of newforms of weight $2$ and prime level with unexpectedly high analytic rank, we show that $\max S(d) \le 3d + 1$ for sufficiently large even $d$ and $\max S(d) = o(d)$ for odd $d$.
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