REVIEW 4 major objections 7 minor 45 references
A deep learning model for segmentation of geographic atrophy to study its long-term natural history
T0 review · 4 major / 7 minor · reviewed 2026-08-14 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read A deep learning model can segment geographic atrophy in color fundus images accurately enough to trace its long-term natural history, revealing that GA area grows quadratically up to about 12 mm² and then stabilizes or decreases.
desk verdict Solid segmentation model, but the natural-history claim depends on unvalidated transfer to AREDS—treat the 12 mm² plateau as suggestive until manual validation appears. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The central object is an ensemble of 20 encoder-decoder deep convolutional networks with residual blocks and shortcut connections, trained on consensus manual delineations from four graders in two population-based cohorts. Each network maps a color fundus image, together with a contrast-enhanced version, to a per-pixel likelihood of GA; ensemble predictions are combined after per-model threshold correction. The other load-bearing device is the square-root transformation of GA area: growth rate is measured as the slope of a linear regression through the square root of area over time, which removes the baseline-size dependence and lets the authors pool growth rates across eyes into a single curve.
What would settle it
Take a stratified sample of images from the target dataset spanning small and large lesions, have expert graders delineate GA, and compare automatic and manual areas per size bin; if the automatic-versus-manual bias changes systematically as lesions approach 12 mm², the plateau may be a measurement artifact rather than true natural history.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central claim is that an ensemble of encoder-decoder deep networks can segment GA in color fundus images with accuracy approaching inter-grader agreement, and that the resulting segmentations, applied at scale to a longitudinal dataset, reveal a consistent natural-history pattern: square-root-transformed GA area grows roughly linearly (that is, area grows quadratically) while lesions are small, but the growth rate in mm² per year stops increasing and stabilizes or declines once the atrophic area reaches approximately 12 mm². The authors argue this pattern explains the dependence of growth rate on baseline area and appears both in cross-sectional pooling of growth rates and in individual eyes followed over many years.
Load-bearing premise
The model is trained on one set of color fundus images and applied to a second large dataset without any manual delineations on that second dataset, so segmentation errors that vary with lesion size or image quality could, in principle, create or mask the observed growth plateau.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- Fully automatic segmentation makes it practical to measure GA area and growth in thousands of eyes from standard color fundus images without manual grading.
- If the plateau near 12 mm² is real, square-root annual growth rate cannot be treated as constant across the disease; clinical trials should stratify or adjust for baseline lesion size.
- Eight automatically computed structural features predict future growth, offering a route to enrich clinical trials with fast-progressing eyes.
- The quadratic-to-saturating growth curve provides a quantitative natural-history benchmark that future interventions can be compared against.
Reading between the lines
- The pooled growth curve mixes many eyes at different disease stages, so the plateau near 12 mm² could reflect a cohort effect rather than a universal within-eye phase; tracking individual lesions through that size would directly test the claim.
- If the plateau is confirmed in within-eye data, the standard square-root transformation, which assumes constant radial expansion, would need revision for large lesions because radial speed would appear to slow.
- Applying the same segmentation pipeline to fundus autofluorescence or OCT images could test whether the plateau is specific to color fundus imaging or a true biological feature of atrophy growth.
Signed reviews
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript presents an ensemble deep-learning model for automatic segmentation of geographic atrophy (GA) in color fundus images (CFIs), trained and validated on 409 images from the Rotterdam Study and Blue Mountains Eye Study, achieving a Dice coefficient of 0.72 ± 0.26 against consensus manual delineations, comparable to inter-grader Dice values of 0.72–0.82. The model is then applied to 5,379 CFIs from 625 eyes in the Age-Related Eye Disease Study (AREDS) to measure GA growth. The authors report that eight automatically extracted structural biomarkers are significantly associated with the square-root annual growth rate, and that combining all per-eye growth estimates suggests GA area grows quadratically up to about 12 mm², after which the growth rate stabilizes or decreases. The paper concludes that the model enables fully automatic GA segmentation and can support large-scale natural-history analyses.
Significance. If the findings hold, the paper makes two useful contributions. First, it provides a fully automatic deep-learning pipeline for GA segmentation in CFIs, with validation against multiple expert graders on two population-based cohorts; the model's performance is close to the inter-grader variability, which is a meaningful benchmark. Second, it demonstrates the feasibility of applying such a model to a large longitudinal dataset (AREDS) and reproduces known associations (e.g., multifocal and extrafoveal lesions growing faster), while proposing novel morphometric biomarkers. The central natural-history claim—a quadratic growth phase followed by a plateau—would be of substantial clinical and trial-design interest if it survives the additional validation described below. The paper also includes a fairly detailed model description in the appendix, which aids reproducibility, though code and trained models are not provided.
major comments (4)
- [Methods, 'GA growth rate' (first paragraph)] The model's segmentation accuracy on AREDS is never assessed; all reported performance metrics (Dice 0.72, ICC 0.83) come from RS/BMES. Because the growth-rate-versus-area curve in Figure 4 is derived entirely from automatic segmentations on AREDS, a size-dependent segmentation bias could create or exaggerate the apparent deceleration after ~12 mm². For example, under-segmentation of large, low-contrast, or confluent lesions would lower estimated growth rates for large lesions, while over-segmentation of small lesions would inflate early growth. The authors should validate the model on a manually graded AREDS subset (the AREDS reading-center gradings referenced in ref. 11 are an appropriate source) and report Dice and ICC stratified by lesion size and image quality, or at least compare automatic areas with available manual AREDS area measurements.
- [Methods, 'GA growth rate' (stereoscopic exclusion)] The exclusion of visits with more than 50% relative difference in automatically segmented GA area between stereoscopic images is applied without a reported rationale or a characterization of the 41 excluded eyes (625 enrolled, 584 analyzed). If stereoscopic discordance is more common for large or fast-growing lesions, the exclusion could selectively remove the large-area tail of the growth curve and contribute to the observed plateau. The authors should report the excluded eyes' baseline characteristics and test the robustness of Figure 4 to alternative thresholds (e.g., 30% and 70%).
- [Methods, 'GA growth rate' (last paragraph) and Figure 4] The claim that GA area grows quadratically up to ~12 mm² and then stabilizes is based on pooling per-eye 2-year growth slopes across eyes and fitting a quadratic curve with a data-dependent cutoff at 12 mm². This procedure does not demonstrate that individual eyes follow this trajectory; eyes reaching large areas are a selected subset, and cross-sectional pooling can mask heterogeneous individual paths. The authors should analyze individual longitudinal data with a prespecified mixed-effects model (e.g., including linear and quadratic time terms with a changepoint) and report how many eyes cross the 12 mm² threshold and their growth patterns.
- [Methods, 'Data' (pixel-to-mm conversion) and Discussion] The fixed pixel-to-millimeter conversion based on an assumed 4.5 mm fovea-to-disc distance affects all area and growth estimates, including the 12 mm² threshold. The authors acknowledge this limitation but do not quantify its impact. A sensitivity analysis with alternative conversion factors (e.g., ±10%) should be reported, and if possible the authors should calibrate magnification per image using the measured fovea-to-disc distance.
minor comments (7)
- [Abstract, 'Design' line] The study is described as 'Prospective, multicenter, natural history study,' but the model development and validation are retrospective analyses of existing cohort data; the design should be described as a retrospective analysis of prospective cohorts.
- [Abstract and Methods] The participant counts (409 CFIs for development, 5,379 CFIs for analysis) are reported inconsistently with the evaluation N=315 in Results; the distinction between images and unique visits should be stated consistently.
- [Introduction and reference 21] The claim that this is 'the first deep learning model for segmentation of GA in CFI' should be reconciled with reference 21 (Keenan et al.), which describes a deep-learning approach for automated detection of GA from color fundus photographs; if that work also performs segmentation, the novelty claim should be narrowed.
- [Table 3 and appendix] The feature 'Fovea region' in Table 3 corresponds to 'foveal involvement' in the appendix; the naming should be unified.
- [Figure 4] The right panel's 'evolution of GA area over time' is obtained by numerical integration starting from an assumed area of 0.5 mm² at t=0; the dependence of the resulting curve on this initial condition and on the integration method should be stated.
- [Methods, 'GA growth rate'] The window selection criterion ('for which the number of available CFIs was highest for the respective eye') should specify how ties are resolved and how many timepoints were typically available in the chosen window.
- [General] The paper should state whether the trained model or code is publicly available; this would enhance reproducibility.
Circularity Check
No circularity identified: the segmentation model is trained on independent manual delineations and the growth analysis is empirical curve fitting, not a prediction derived from the fitted parameters.
full rationale
The paper's derivation chain is self-contained rather than circular. The deep learning model is trained and cross-validated on manual consensus delineations from RS and BMES, which are external to the AREDS growth analysis. The central natural-history result is obtained by applying the trained ensemble to AREDS images, measuring GA area, computing per-eye growth rates via linear regression over two-year windows, and then combining these growth estimates as a function of area (Methods: 'GA growth rate'). The quadratic curve in Figure 4 is explicitly described as a best fit to the observed data ('The red dashed line in these graphs represent a quadratic model that best fitted the data for GA area < 12 mm²'), not as an independent prediction derived from the model inputs. Fitting a curve to data and reporting that it fits is empirical summarization, not circularity. No load-bearing argument relies on self-citation: the cited EyeNED workstation is only a tool for manual annotation, and the square-root transformation is justified by external references (Feuer et al., Grunwald et al.). The potential concern that the model was not manually validated on AREDS is a question of external validity or measurement bias, not a circularity of the kind where an output reduces by construction to an input. Therefore the paper receives a circularity score of 0.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (5)
- Pixel-to-millimeter conversion distance =
4.5 mm
- Stereoscopic difference threshold =
50%
- Growth regression window =
2 years
- Quadratic fit cutoff for GA area =
~12 mm²
- Optimal segmentation threshold per model =
Selected per model on validation set
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption GA is identified on CFI as absence of retinal pigment epithelium and increased visibility of choriocapillaris; manual delineations from four graders are treated as ground truth.
- domain assumption Consensus grading by four graders is an appropriate reference standard for model evaluation, despite not being independent of individual graders.
- domain assumption Square root of GA area grows approximately linearly over time within short intervals, for growth rate measurement.
- domain assumption The average distance between the fovea and the optic disc center is 4.5 mm across all images.
- domain assumption The model trained on RS/BMES CFIs produces valid segmentations on AREDS CFIs acquired with different cameras and populations.
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Pith. "Pith review of A deep learning model for segmentation of geographic atrophy to study its long-term natural history." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/VXRFV5ZV
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abstract
Purpose: To develop and validate a deep learning model for automatic segmentation of geographic atrophy (GA) in color fundus images (CFIs) and its application to study growth rate of GA. Participants: 409 CFIs of 238 eyes with GA from the Rotterdam Study (RS) and the Blue Mountain Eye Study (BMES) for model development, and 5,379 CFIs of 625 eyes from the Age-Related Eye Disease Study (AREDS) for analysis of GA growth rate. Methods: A deep learning model based on an ensemble of encoder-decoder architectures was implemented and optimized for the segmentation of GA in CFIs. Four experienced graders delineated GA in CFIs from RS and BMES. These manual delineations were used to evaluate the segmentation model using 5-fold cross-validation. The model was further applied to CFIs from the AREDS to study the growth rate of GA. Linear regression analysis was used to study associations between structural biomarkers at baseline and GA growth rate. A general estimate of the progression of GA area over time was made by combining growth rates of all eyes with GA from the AREDS set. Results: The model obtained an average Dice coefficient of 0.72 $\pm$ 0.26 on the BMES and RS. An intraclass correlation coefficient of 0.83 was reached between the automatically estimated GA area and the graders' consensus measures. Eight automatically calculated structural biomarkers (area, filled area, convex area, convex solidity, eccentricity, roundness, foveal involvement and perimeter) were significantly associated with growth rate. Combining all growth rates indicated that GA area grows quadratically up to an area of around 12 mm$^{2}$, after which growth rate stabilizes or decreases. Conclusion: The presented deep learning model allowed for fully automatic and robust segmentation of GA in CFIs. These segmentations can be used to extract structural characteristics of GA that predict its growth rate.
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