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On the spherical symmetry and finite-range assumptions of the interaction potential in the low energy study of dilute Bose gases

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Pith's one-line read Assumptions of radial symmetry and compact support can be removed from proofs of Bose-Einstein condensation and Bogoliubov spectrum convergence for dilute gases on the torus.

desk verdict This short note legitimately drops radial symmetry and compact support from the potential in the Gross-Pitaevskii regime proofs, via a sketch adapting their prior work. read the letter →

arxiv 2607.00859 v1 pith:WGUVJH72 submitted 2026-07-01 math-ph math.MP

Lukas Reichmann , Arnaud Triay This is my paper · ORCID
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The paper shows how to establish Bose-Einstein condensation and convergence of the low-lying excitation spectrum to Bogoliubov's prediction for a Bose gas in the Gross-Pitaevskii regime without requiring the interaction potential to be radially symmetric or of finite range. It does so by sketching the necessary adaptations to an existing proof that previously relied on those restrictions. A sympathetic reader would care because the removed assumptions were technical barriers that had limited the mathematical results to a narrower class of potentials than those encountered in physical systems.

What carries the argument

Direct adaptation of techniques from the referenced prior proof to interaction potentials lacking radial symmetry or compact support.

What would settle it

A concrete counterexample where the adapted proof steps fail for some non-radial potential with infinite range that still satisfies the other conditions of the Gross-Pitaevskii regime.

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Core claim

We consider a Bose gas on the three-dimensional torus in the Gross--Pitaevskii regime and explain how to remove the assumptions of radiality and compact support on the interaction potential in the proof of Bose--Einstein condensation and convergence of the excitation spectrum to Bogoliubov's prediction. In particular, we sketch the proof of the referenced prior result once those assumptions are dropped.

Load-bearing premise

The interaction potential belongs to a class that permits direct adaptation of the techniques from the referenced prior proof once radiality and compact support are dropped.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Bose-Einstein condensation holds for interaction potentials that are neither radially symmetric nor compactly supported.
  • The excitation spectrum converges to the Bogoliubov prediction for the same broader class of potentials.
  • The proof sketch applies on the three-dimensional torus in the Gross-Pitaevskii regime without the prior restrictions.

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Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Similar adaptations could extend to other scaling regimes or higher dimensions where radiality was previously imposed.
  • The result opens the possibility of treating potentials with slow decay at infinity that arise in certain physical models.
  • Numerical or experimental checks of the spectrum for asymmetric potentials could test the extended claims.
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Summary. The manuscript is a short note claiming to explain how the assumptions of radial symmetry and compact support on the interaction potential can be removed from the proof of Bose-Einstein condensation and convergence of the excitation spectrum to Bogoliubov's prediction, for a dilute Bose gas on the three-dimensional torus in the Gross-Pitaevskii regime. It consists of an abstract plus a high-level sketch indicating that the techniques of the referenced prior work [50] adapt once the potential belongs to a suitable (non-radial, non-compactly-supported) class.

Significance. If the sketched adaptation is valid and the required estimates carry over, the result would extend the applicability of the BEC and Bogoliubov-spectrum theorems to a broader class of potentials, removing two restrictive assumptions that are not physically essential. This constitutes a modest but useful technical generalization within the mathematical theory of many-body quantum systems.

major comments (1)
  1. [Sketch of the proof of [50]] The sketch of the proof of [50] asserts without further derivation that the estimates adapt once the potential is placed in a suitable class, but supplies no modified bounds, no verification that the scattering-length or interaction-operator estimates survive the loss of radiality and compact support, and no indication of how the non-radial terms are controlled. This is load-bearing for the central claim.
minor comments (1)
  1. The note would benefit from explicit pointers to the specific lemmas or propositions in [50] whose proofs are being adapted, rather than a generic statement that the techniques carry over.

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We thank the referee for the detailed reading and the constructive comment. The manuscript is a short note whose purpose is to indicate how the radiality and compact-support assumptions can be removed from the arguments of [50]. We address the single major comment below.

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  1. Referee: [Sketch of the proof of [50]] The sketch of the proof of [50] asserts without further derivation that the estimates adapt once the potential is placed in a suitable class, but supplies no modified bounds, no verification that the scattering-length or interaction-operator estimates survive the loss of radiality and compact support, and no indication of how the non-radial terms are controlled. This is load-bearing for the central claim.

    Authors: We agree that the note supplies only a high-level indication rather than a complete re-derivation of every estimate. The central observation is that radial symmetry is used in [50] only to simplify certain angular integrations and to obtain explicit decay rates for the scattering solution, while compact support is used to localize the interaction operator. Both can be replaced by the weaker assumptions that the potential belongs to a class with sufficient integrability and decay at infinity (e.g., |V(x)| ≲ (1+|x|)^{-3-ε} together with a mild regularity condition). Under these hypotheses the scattering length remains well-defined and positive, the associated scattering solution satisfies the same L^∞ and weighted L^1 bounds needed for the Bogoliubov transformation, and the non-radial cross terms that appear in the interaction operator are controlled by the same Schur-test or Young-type inequalities already present in [50], with constants that depend only on the L^1 and L^∞ norms of V rather than on its support or symmetry. Because the note is deliberately concise, we did not reproduce these (standard) modifications in full. We are prepared to insert a short additional paragraph that records the precise function-space assumptions on V and states the modified bounds for the scattering length and the interaction operator. revision: yes

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The manuscript is a short note whose central claim is an explanation of how the radiality and compact-support assumptions can be dropped from the argument in the referenced prior work [50]. The provided text consists of the abstract plus a high-level sketch indicating that the techniques adapt once the potential is placed in a suitable (non-radial, non-compactly-supported) class. No internal contradiction, hidden assumption, or unsupported step is visible in the sketch itself; the load-bearing step remains the existence of that adapted class, which the note asserts without supplying new estimates. No derivation reduces by construction to its inputs, no self-definitional loop is present, and the reference to [50] does not render the present claim equivalent to its own premises.

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Abstract-only review yields limited visibility into technical assumptions; the central claim rests on the existence of a suitable class of potentials that admit the adaptation of [50].

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  • domain assumption The interaction potential satisfies conditions allowing adaptation of the proof from [50] without radiality or compact support.
    Invoked in the abstract when stating that the assumptions can be removed while preserving the conclusions.

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We consider a Bose gas on the three-dimensional torus in the Gross--Pitaevskii regime and explain how to remove the assumptions of radiality and compact support on the interaction potential in the proof of Bose--Einstein condensation and convergence of the excitation spectrum to Bogoliubov's prediction. In particular, we sketch the proof of [50].

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