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A variational formulation for relativistic mechanics, a new interpretation for the Bohr atomic model and some concerning applications

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Pith's one-line read The paper claims the Klein–Gordon equation is the Euler–Lagrange equation of a classical variational principle with a curvature-control term and with γ = ℏ²/m imported from quantum mechanics.

desk verdict The paper's advertised result—a variational derivation of the Klein-Gordon equation—fails on a simple coefficient check using the author's own γ, and the remaining sections are formal sketches without predictions. read the letter →

arxiv 1908.04611 v4 pith:XCJ2L3TU submitted 2019-08-13 quant-ph

Fabio Botelho This is my paper · ORCID
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The reading

The paper sets out to show that the relativistic Klein–Gordon equation can be derived from a single classical variational principle: minimize an energy that combines the usual kinetic term with a curvature-control term built from gradients of a matter density field. In the non-relativistic limit the same functional reduces to the standard free-particle Schrödinger energy, and in the relativistic limit its Euler–Lagrange equation is claimed to be exactly the Klein–Gordon equation. A sympathetic reader would care because, if true, it would mean quantum wave equations are not a separate postulate but the outcome of a classical stationarity condition on a configuration space with curvature. The paper then carries the same construction into models with electromagnetic fields, a variational reading of Bohr's atomic model, a chemical-reaction model, and a relativistic spin operator.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing object is the curvature-control term $\hat R$, a scalar built from the metric coefficients $g_{ij}$, the Christoffel symbols (metric connection coefficients) $\Gamma^s_{ij}$, and derivatives of the normalized complex field $\varphi = R(r)/\sqrt{m}$. In the first model $\hat R$ is a fourth-order combination $g^{ij}g^{kl}\,(\partial_i(\varphi\,\partial_j r))\cdot(\partial_k(\varphi^*\,\partial_l r))$; after the approximation $r \approx (ct,x)$ it becomes the flat d'Alembertian $c^{-2}|\partial_t\varphi|^2 - |\nabla\varphi|^2$, and the coefficient $\gamma$ is later set to $\hbar^2/m$ so that the Euler–Lagrange equation is identified with Klein–Gordon. A second model replaces part of that construction with a normal field $n$ orthogonal to $\partial r/\partial t$, and the later sections use this normal field to build Bohr-atom and chemical-reaction functionals. The spin section uses a Lorentz transformation induced by the velocity field to decompose the angular momentum operator into an orbital part $L$ and a remainder $S$, which the paper calls the spin operator.

What would settle it

Compute the full Euler–Lagrange equation of the unapproximated functional (21), keeping all metric and Christoffel terms, and take its flat limit; if the resulting equation is not (14), the identification fails. A second check is to vary $\gamma$ independently: if the derivation is classical, the Euler–Lagrange equation should select $\gamma$ from the dynamics, not receive it as the quantum value $\hbar^2/m$.

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Core claim

The central claim is that equation (14) of the paper—$\gamma/2\,(c^{-2}\partial^2\varphi/\partial t^2 - \sum_k \partial^2\varphi/\partial x_k^2) + mc^2\varphi - E_1\varphi = 0$, with $\gamma = \hbar^2/m$—is the relativistic Klein–Gordon equation. The author obtains it by writing a relativistic energy functional in which the kinetic part gives mass and rest-energy terms while the curvature term $\hat R$, under the local approximation $r(x,t) \approx (ct,x)$ and $\partial r/\partial t \approx (c,0,0,0)$, collapses to the flat-space d'Alembertian acting on $\varphi$. The Euler–Lagrange equations of this approximate functional then yield (14). The same pattern is repeated: in the non-relativistic regime the curvature term becomes the Dirichlet energy whose Euler–Lagrange equation is the free Schrödinger equation, and the paper presents this as evidence that classical and quantum mechanics share a common variational origin.

Load-bearing premise

The load-bearing premise is that the flat-limit choices $r(x,t) \approx (ct,x)$, $\partial r/\partial t \approx (c,0,0,0)$, and $\gamma = \hbar^2/m$ are physically justified; if they are not, equation (14) is not an independent relativistic result but a re-labeling of the quantum equation with quantum constants put in by hand.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • If equation (14) is genuinely the Klein–Gordon equation, then relativistic quantum wave propagation follows from a stationarity condition on a classical energy with a curvature penalty, giving quantum equations a variational pedigree.
  • The same functional reduces to the free-particle Schrödinger energy in the non-relativistic limit, so classical and quantum mechanics would be described by one unified energy with $\gamma = \hbar^2/m$ as the only quantum input.
  • The electromagnetic extension replaces the ordinary derivative in $\hat R$ by a minimal-coupling expression involving the vector potential, so the variational principle extends to charged particles without adding the field term by hand.
  • The Bohr model section states the stable electron layers as the solution of a control problem over the phase angles in the motion field, with $2l+1$ electrons per layer reproducing the observed shell counts.
  • The relativistic spin operator decomposes as $J = L + S$, with $S$ generated by the velocity-induced Lorentz transformation; if the decomposition is taken literally it gives a relativistic correction to orbital angular momentum.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Beyond the paper: the variational machinery could be applied to other relativistic wave equations, such as Dirac-type systems, but the paper itself does not carry out that step.
  • Beyond the paper: the Bohr-atom control problem is numerically testable — minimizing the same-layer Coulomb repulsion over the phase angles $\{\theta, \phi\}$ should recover the hydrogen spectrum and shell structure if the variational interpretation is correct.
  • Beyond the paper: because $\gamma$ is imported from quantum mechanics, the derivation's independence claim depends on treating the gradient-of-density energy as a classical quantity; a sharper test would be to fix $\gamma$ from the variational principle itself rather than from Schrödinger's equation.
  • Beyond the paper: the entropy and temperature definitions in Section 9 suggest a route from the variational framework to reaction rates, provided the phenomenological coefficients $\beta_k$ can be derived from the microscopic functional rather than fitted; the paper leaves that derivation open.
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3 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper proposes a variational principle in which a kinetic energy is supplemented by a curvature term depending on a complex density, and claims that its Euler-Lagrange equation reduces, in a special relativistic limit, to the Klein-Gordon equation. The remainder of the manuscript applies the same idea to electromagnetic fields, a Bohr-like atomic model, many-atom systems, entropy, chemical reactions, and a relativistic spin operator.

Significance. If the central derivation were correct, it would give a classical variational route to the Klein-Gordon equation and connect Riemannian curvature functionals with quantum wave equations. The paper also makes explicit, largely formal, proposals for very broad applications. These ambitions are not supported by the technical content, because the central equation is not the Klein-Gordon equation under the paper's own parameter identifications. The manuscript does contain some careful formal manipulations, such as the reduction of the curvature term in Eqs. (4)-(5) and the flat-space limits leading to Eqs. (8) and (12), but the load-bearing claim fails.

major comments (3)
  1. [Section 3, Eq. (14)] The sentence immediately after Eq. (14), 'Equation (14) is the relativistic Klein-Gordon one,' is contradicted by coefficient comparison. With γ = ℏ²/m, the value recalled later in the same section, Eq. (14) becomes □φ + (2m²c²/ℏ²)φ - (2mE1/ℏ²)φ = 0 after multiplying by 2m/ℏ², where □ = (1/c²)∂²_t - Δ. The free Klein-Gordon equation is □φ + (m²c²/ℏ²)φ = 0. The mass term is off by a factor of 2, and the Lagrange-multiplier term E1φ is absent from KG. The implied plane-wave dispersion relation is ω² = c²|k|² + 2m²c⁴/ℏ² - 2mc²E1/ℏ² rather than ω² = c²|k|² + m²c⁴/ℏ². Thus the central advertised result does not hold as stated.
  2. [Section 3, Eqs. (12)-(15)] The derivation is not independent of the target equation. The limit r(x,t) ≈ (ct,x) with ∂r/∂t ≈ (c,0,0,0) is chosen so that the curvature term Rhat R reduces to the flat d'Alembertian in Eq. (12), and the coefficient γ is subsequently set to ℏ²/m by appeal to quantum mechanics rather than derived. Consequently Eq. (14) is obtained by fitting the functional to a wave equation of KG type. This would be acceptable only if the final equation matched KG exactly; combined with the coefficient mismatch in Eq. (14), it invalidates the claimed variational derivation. Eq. (15) is also not an independent general consequence: it is obtained by substituting the particular ansatz φ = e^{-iE1t/ℏ}φ2(x) into Eq. (14).
  3. [Section 6.2, Eq. (28) and Remark 6.1] The electromagnetic variational model is conditional on the existence of a functional W(R(r), r) whose functional derivatives equal the specified integral expressions. Remark 6.1 explicitly concedes that such a W may not exist and proposes only an 'approximately satisfied' optimization problem. Thus the Euler-Lagrange structure of the full functional (28) is not actually established, and the electromagnetic application is not a well-defined variational principle as presented.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Section 3, Eq. (9)] The displayed relation dEc = ∂r/∂t · ∂r/∂t dm = -(dt/dt)² dm = -(c²-v²)dm uses the symbol dt both for coordinate time and for proper time; the meaning of the ratio dt/dt is not defined, which makes the identity notationally and dimensionally ambiguous.
  2. [Section 3, Eq. (15)] Eq. (15) is advertised as a 'relativistic Schrödinger-Klein-Gordon equation,' but it is derived only for the special solution φ = e^{-iE1t/ℏ}φ2(x) and is equivalent to Eq. (14) on that ansatz; the text should state this limitation explicitly.
  3. [Section 7, Eq. (29)] The index j is used both as an electron label and as the canonical basis vector j, and the spherical-coordinate notation (r, θ, φ) is not distinguished from the radial variable R_l^j appearing in Eq. (35); this makes the definitions harder to follow.
  4. [Section 8.1, Eqs. (42)-(46)] The passage to a large-N continuum limit is not carried out consistently: after introducing continuum fields φ_l^j(x,y) and r_l^j(x,y,t), Eq. (43) and constraint (44) still contain sums over discrete atoms k = 1, ..., N, and no N→∞ limit is defined.
  5. [Sections 6-10] The constants K, K1, Al, γ_l^j, and βk are described as 'appropriate' or 'experimental,' but no values, determining conditions, or numerical experiments are provided; consequently the models in the applications sections remain schematic.

Circularity Check

2 steps flagged · score 8.0 of 10

The variational 'derivation' of the Klein-Gordon equation is a restatement: the curvature term collapses to the flat d'Alembertian, and γ is imported from QM as ℏ²/m.

  1. self definitional [Section 3, Eq. (12) through Eq. (14)]
    "In particular for the special case in which r(x, t) ≈ (ct, x), so that ∂r(x, t)/∂t ≈ (c, 0, 0, 0), we would obtain ... γ/2 ∫∫ ˆR √g dxdt ≈ γ/2 ∫∫ ( − 1/c² ∂φ(x,t)/∂t ∂φ∗(x,t)/∂t + Σ_{k=1}^3 ∂φ(x,t)/∂x_k ∂φ∗(x,t)/∂x_k ) dxdt, (12) ... The Euler Lagrange equations for such an energy are given by γ/2 ( 1/c² ∂²φ/∂t² − Σ_{k=1}^3 ∂²φ/∂x_k² ) + mc²φ(x,t) − E1(t)φ(x,t) = 0, in Ω, (14) ... Equation (14) is the relativistic Klein-Gordon one."

    The curvature term ˆR, the only geometric object in the functional, is explicitly collapsed in Eq. (12) to the flat quadratic derivative form whose Euler-Lagrange equation is the d'Alembertian. Eq. (14) is therefore the stationary condition of a functional that already contains the d'Alembert operator by construction. The mass coefficient mc² and the operator normalization are then fixed by importing γ = ℏ²/m from ordinary quantum mechanics. The variational principle does not independently produce the Klein-Gordon equation; it restates a KG-like operator chosen as part of the energy functional. Moreover, even with that imported γ, Eq. (14) is not the standard KG equation: it has a mass term 2m²c²/ℏ² instead of m²c²/ℏ² and an extra E1 term.

  2. fitted input called prediction [Section 3, after Eq. (15)]
    "At this point, we recall that in quantum mechanics, γ = ℏ²/m. Finally, we remark this last equation (15) is a kind of relativistic Schrödinger-Klein-Gordon equation."

    γ had been introduced earlier as an unspecified positive constant; fixing it by 'recall[ing]' the quantum-mechanical value ℏ²/m imports the target theory's parameter into the supposedly derived equation. Equation (15) is obtained by substituting φ = e^{−iE1t/ℏ}φ2(x) into the already constructed Eq. (14). Hence the advertised 'relativistic Schrödinger-Klein-Gordon equation' is a rearrangement of the same constructed operator with the QM coefficient inserted, not an independent prediction of the variational formulation.

full rationale

The central derivation of Section 3 is not a first-principles result. After the special ansatz r(x,t) ≈ (ct,x), the Riemannian curvature term ˆR is replaced by the flat quadratic form whose Euler-Lagrange equation is the d'Alembert equation; Eq. (13) is then a quadratic functional whose stationarity condition is, by construction, the corresponding linear wave equation. The parameter γ is not determined by the variational principle; it is later set to ℏ²/m by appeal to standard quantum mechanics. Thus the claimed 'derivation' reduces to choosing an energy functional with the desired operator and then naming its Euler-Lagrange equation as the Klein-Gordon equation. Independently of circularity, that identification is quantitatively incorrect under the paper's own settings: substituting γ = ℏ²/m into Eq. (14) gives a mass term of 2m²c²/ℏ² with an additional E1 term, not the standard m²c²/ℏ². The self-citations [4,5,7] are present but are not the load-bearing element; the circularity lies in the d'Alembertian collapse and the imported value of γ. Score 8 reflects that the central claimed result is forced by definition and by an externally imported parameter rather than derived.

Assumptions & free parameters 5 free parameters · 6 assumptions · 3 invented entities

The central claim depends on an engineered curvature term, a fitted constant γ=ℏ²/m, and several assumptions (existence of W, normal field constraints, non-relativistic limit) that are not independently established. The paper introduces no genuinely new physical entities with external evidence.

free parameters (5)
  • γ (curvature coefficient) = ℏ²/m
    Set equal to the known quantum value in Section 3 to make the Euler-Lagrange equation match the Schrödinger/KG form.
  • Al (regularization coefficients)
    Defined as 'to be specified' in Section 7; controls position-field regularization in the Bohr model.
  • γl_j (quantum curvature coefficients)
    Introduced in Section 7 as 'appropriate positive constant to be specified'; weights the curvature term for each electron.
  • βk(P,T,ρ) (reaction coefficients)
    In Section 10, 'must be obtained experimentally'; determines chemical reaction direction.
  • Self-interaction energy W(R,r)
    Defined implicitly via δR W and δr W equations in Section 6.2; Remark 6.1 admits it may not exist and may require approximate optimization.
assumptions (6)
  • domain assumption The position field r is an immersion with linearly independent tangent vectors {g_k}.
    Assumed in Sections 2 and 3 to define metric components and Christoffel symbols; if the map degenerates, the curvature term is undefined.
  • ad hoc to paper The limit r(x,t) ≈ (ct,x) with ∂r/∂t ≈ (c,0,0,0) is a valid representation of the relativistic system.
    Used in Section 3 to reduce the functional to the d'Alembertian; this is the non-relativistic limit, not a general relativistic regime.
  • ad hoc to paper γ = ℏ²/m is imported from quantum mechanics.
    Stated in Section 3 ('we recall that in quantum mechanics, γ = ℏ²/m'); this choice forces the target equation.
  • domain assumption There exists a normal field n with n·n=1 and n·∂r/∂t=0.
    Postulated in Sections 4 and 5 to define the curvature tensor \ hat R.
  • ad hoc to paper There exists a functional W(R,r) with the specified functional derivatives.
    Assumed in Section 6.2; Remark 6.1 acknowledges it may not exist and suggests relaxing to an optimization problem.
  • domain assumption The chemical reaction coefficients βk can be obtained experimentally.
    Section 10 assumes these functions are known from experiment to close the model.
invented entities (3)
  • Normal field n(r)
    purpose: Defines the curvature term \ hat R via a second fundamental form; also constrained to be unit and orthogonal to motion.
    No experimental signature; it is a mathematical auxiliary field introduced to build the variational functional.
  • Self-interaction energy functional W(R,r)
    purpose: Accounts for electromagnetic self-interaction in Section 6.
    Defined implicitly by its desired variations; no independent derivation or falsifiable prediction.
  • Relativistic spin operator S (as defined in Eq. (74))
    purpose: Claims to represent spin in a relativistic context from the Lorentz-transformed rotating frame.
    No prediction of spin-1/2 values or gyromagnetic ratio; it is a formal definition not connected to observed spin.

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This article develops a variational formulation for the relativistic Klein-Gordon equation. The main results are obtained through an extension of the classical mechanics approach to a more general context, which in some sense, includes the quantum mechanics one. For the second part of the text, the definition of normal field and its relation with the wave function concept play a fundamental role in the main results establishment. Among the applications, we include a model with the presence of electromagnetic fields and also the modeling of a chemical reaction. Finally, in the last section, we present some results about the Spin operator in a relativistic context.

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