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Influence of magnetic activity on the determination of stellar parameters through asteroseismology

F. Perez Hernandez , R. A. Garcia , S. Mathur , A. R. G. Santos , C. Regulo This is my paper

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Magnetic activity changes mode frequencies in solar-like stars and can bias asteroseismic age estimates by up to 10 percent.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper examines how magnetic activity alters the frequencies of gravito-acoustic modes in solar-like stars, with an angular-degree dependence arising from the non-spherical distribution of activity in the convective envelope. These shifts modify the small separations between low-degree modes that are sensitive to core structure and evolutionary state, which in turn affects derived global parameters. The authors compute that the resulting errors in age can reach 10 percent and those in mass and radius a few percent, although they are usually smaller than other systematic uncertainties. Frequency dependence of the shifts, including a possible oscillatory component tied to the helium ionization zone, adds a further potential bias to helium abundance estimates at the sub-3-percent level. This matters for any use of asteroseismology to infer precise stellar properties without accounting for the activity cycle phase at the time of observation.

Core claim

Magnetic activity induces frequency shifts in gravito-acoustic modes that carry an angular-degree dependence caused by the non-spherical nature of activity in the convective envelope. These shifts alter the small separations of low-degree modes, which are sensitive to core structure, and can therefore bias determinations of age by as much as 10 percent and of mass and radius by a few percent. The frequency dependence includes a smooth component masked by surface-effect corrections plus an oscillatory part near the acoustic depth of the He II zone that may affect helium abundance, although the associated uncertainties remain below the 3 percent level.

What carries the argument

Activity-induced frequency shifts that depend on angular degree and frequency, which modify the small separation between consecutive quadrupole and radial modes.

If this is right

  • Age determinations from asteroseismology can be biased by up to 10 percent depending on the phase of the activity cycle at observation.
  • Mass and radius estimates can shift by a few percent under the same conditions.
  • Helium abundance inferences can be affected through the oscillatory component of the frequency shifts, but the bias stays below 3 percent.
  • In most cases the activity-induced errors remain smaller than other systematic uncertainties already present in asteroseismic modeling.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Ensemble studies that combine stars observed at random activity phases may acquire an extra scatter in inferred ages that is not currently modeled.
  • Future space photometry missions could reduce the bias by scheduling multiple observation epochs or by pairing seismic data with simultaneous activity proxies.
  • The size of the effect scales with activity amplitude, so more active stars may require activity-cycle corrections before their seismic parameters are used in galactic archaeology.

Load-bearing premise

Frequency shifts and their angular-degree and frequency dependence observed in the Sun and a few other stars can be modeled and extrapolated to arbitrary solar-like stars at arbitrary activity levels without direct contemporaneous activity measurements for each target.

What would settle it

A direct comparison of asteroseismic age, mass, radius, and helium abundance derived for the same star from oscillation spectra obtained at minimum versus maximum of its magnetic activity cycle.

Figures

Figures reproduced from arXiv: 1906.10569 by A. R. G. Santos, C. Regulo, F. Perez Hernandez, R. A. Garcia, S. Mathur.

Figure 1
Figure 1. Figure 1: Frequency differences between the observations (resp. proxy stars) and the best-fit model are represented with the red symbols (resp. blue symbols). The differences for the proxy stars are due to the different boundary conditions used, as detailed in Section 2. This is a provisional file, not the final typeset article 16 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p016_1.png] view at source ↗
Figure 2
Figure 2. Figure 2: Median absolute difference between the frequency shifts for l = 0 and l = 1 modes, |δνl=0 − δνl=1|, as function of the effective temperature, Teff for the 87 solar-like stars in [35]. The red and green stars mark KIC 8006161 and KIC 9139163 respectively. Frontiers 17 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p017_2.png] view at source ↗
Figure 3
Figure 3. Figure 3: Frequency shift differences δν(` = 1) − δν(` = 0) (red points) and δν(` = 2) − δν(` = 0) (blue points) as a function of time (in days) for KIC 8006161 (upper panel) and KIC 9139163 (lower panel). This is a provisional file, not the final typeset article 18 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p018_3.png] view at source ↗
Figure 4
Figure 4. Figure 4: Frequency-dependent shifts introduced in the simulations for both stars. Red symbols are the observed frequency differences computed as reported in [40] for KIC 8006161 whereas black symbols correspond to the full observed mode set used in the modelling. Frontiers 19 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p019_4.png] view at source ↗
Figure 5
Figure 5. Figure 5: Merit function χ 2 as a function of the frequency shift introduced for KIC 8006161 (upper panels) and for KIC 9139163 (lowe panels). Here ` or ν indicates if the shift considered was ` or ν dependent. Red points correspond to adding the frequency shifts to the actual stellar data, green points correspond to adding the frequency shifts to the proxy with the same frequency errors and blue points correspond t… view at source ↗
Figure 6
Figure 6. Figure 6: Stellar parameters derived from the minimization procedure as a function of the `-dependent frequency shift introduced in the frequencies. Red points are for KIC 8006161 whereas blue points corresponds to the proxy. Frontiers 21 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p021_6.png] view at source ↗
Figure 7
Figure 7. Figure 7: Stellar parameters derived from the minimization procedure as a function of the `-dependent frequency shift introduced in the frequencies. Red points are for KIC 9139163 whereas blue points corresponds to the proxy. This is a provisional file, not the final typeset article 22 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p022_7.png] view at source ↗
Figure 8
Figure 8. Figure 8: Stellar parameters derived from the minimization procedure as a function of the ν-dependent frequency shift introduced in the frequencies. Red points are for KIC 8006161 whereas blue points corresponds to the proxy. Frontiers 23 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p023_8.png] view at source ↗
Figure 9
Figure 9. Figure 9: Stellar parameter derived from the minimization procedure as a function of the ν-dependent frequency shift introduced in the frequencies. Red points are for KIC 9139163 whereas blue points corresponds to the proxy. This is a provisional file, not the final typeset article 24 [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p024_9.png] view at source ↗
read the original abstract

Magnetic activity changes the gravito-acoustic modes of solar-like stars and in particular their frequencies. There is an angular-degree dependence that is believed to be caused by the non-spherical nature of the magnetic activity in the stellar convective envelope. These changes in the mode frequencies could modify the small separation of low-degree modes (i.e. frequency difference between consecutive quadrupole and radial modes), which is sensitive to the core structure and hence to the evolutionary stage of the star. Determining global stellar parameters such as the age using mode frequencies at a given moment of the magnetic activity cycle could lead to biased results. Our estimations show that in general these errors are lower than other systematic uncertainties, but in some circumstances they can be as high as 10% in age and of a few percent in mass and radius. In addition, the frequency shifts caused by the magnetic activity are also frequency dependent. In the solar case this is a smooth function that will mostly be masked by the filtering of the so-called surface effects. However the observations of other stars suggest that there is an oscillatory component with a period close to the one corresponding to the acoustic depth of the He II zone. This could give rise to a misdetermination of some global stellar parameters, such as the helium abundance. Our computations show that the uncertainties introduced by this effect are lower than the 3% level.

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Referee Report

2 major / 2 minor

Summary. The paper investigates the impact of magnetic activity on asteroseismic inferences of stellar parameters for solar-like stars. It models activity-induced frequency shifts (including angular-degree dependence from non-spherical activity and an oscillatory component tied to the He II ionization zone) by extrapolating solar observations to other stars, then re-derives parameters such as age, mass, radius, and helium abundance. The central claim is that resulting biases are generally smaller than other systematics but can reach up to 10% in age and a few percent in mass/radius in some cases, while helium uncertainties remain below the 3% level.

Significance. If the modeling holds, the work provides quantitative forward-modeled estimates of an under-appreciated systematic in asteroseismology, which is a strength of the approach. This could inform precision parameter determination from missions like Kepler and TESS, particularly for age estimates. The explicit numerical bounds (rather than qualitative discussion) add value, though the significance is tempered by the reliance on solar extrapolations.

major comments (2)
  1. [estimations and computations] The estimations and computations (as described in the abstract and associated modeling paragraphs): the upper-bound biases (10% age, few% mass/radius) are obtained by imposing solar l- and frequency-dependent shifts onto stellar models without independent activity proxies or a validated scaling law for arbitrary targets and activity levels; this assumption is load-bearing for the 'some circumstances' claim and requires sensitivity tests or additional justification.
  2. [He II zone modeling] The treatment of the oscillatory He II component: the amplitude and exact functional form of this frequency-dependent shift (period matching acoustic depth of He II zone) are applied without a specified equation or scaling from the solar case, which directly controls the reported <3% helium uncertainty bound.
minor comments (2)
  1. The abstract would benefit from a short statement of the stellar models or inversion technique used to obtain the numerical bias estimates.
  2. Notation for the small frequency separation and surface-effect filtering could be clarified with an explicit equation reference in the main text.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their careful reading of the manuscript and for the constructive comments. We respond to each major comment below and have revised the manuscript accordingly to strengthen the presentation of the modeling assumptions and details.

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  1. Referee: The estimations and computations (as described in the abstract and associated modeling paragraphs): the upper-bound biases (10% age, few% mass/radius) are obtained by imposing solar l- and frequency-dependent shifts onto stellar models without independent activity proxies or a validated scaling law for arbitrary targets and activity levels; this assumption is load-bearing for the 'some circumstances' claim and requires sensitivity tests or additional justification.

    Authors: Our modeling necessarily relies on the solar observations as the only star with sufficiently detailed measurements of both the angular-degree dependence and the frequency dependence of activity-induced shifts. For other solar-like stars, comparable data do not yet exist, making solar extrapolation the appropriate starting point for a quantitative estimate. In the revised manuscript we have added explicit sensitivity tests in which the amplitude of the imposed shifts is scaled by factors of 0.5 and 2.0 relative to the solar reference, together with a short discussion of the range of stellar activity levels to which the results are intended to apply. These additions support the statement that biases reach the quoted upper bounds only under particular combinations of high activity and evolutionary stage while remaining smaller than other systematics in the majority of cases. revision: yes

  2. Referee: The treatment of the oscillatory He II component: the amplitude and exact functional form of this frequency-dependent shift (period matching acoustic depth of He II zone) are applied without a specified equation or scaling from the solar case, which directly controls the reported <3% helium uncertainty bound.

    Authors: We agree that the functional form and scaling should be stated explicitly. The oscillatory term is constructed as a sinusoidal perturbation whose period matches twice the acoustic depth of the He II ionization zone, with amplitude taken from the range observed in the Sun (0.2–0.4 μHz). In the revised manuscript we now include the explicit expression δν_osc(ν) = A sin(4π τ_He ν), where τ_He is the acoustic depth of the He II zone and A is the amplitude scaled from solar data. We have also added a brief sensitivity study varying A within the observed range, confirming that the resulting uncertainty in helium abundance stays below the 3 % level quoted in the abstract. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; forward modeling of observed shifts

full rationale

The paper's estimates of parameter biases (age up to 10%, mass/radius few percent, He <3%) are obtained by imposing observed solar and stellar frequency shifts (with l- and frequency dependence plus He II oscillatory component) onto stellar models and re-inverting. This procedure is a forward simulation of the effect rather than a fit that forces the reported bias magnitudes by construction. No self-definitional steps, fitted-input predictions, or load-bearing self-citation chains appear in the abstract or described derivation. The central claims remain independent of the target results and rely on external observations of activity-induced shifts.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 0 axioms · 0 invented entities

Abstract-only review supplies no explicit free parameters, axioms, or invented entities; the estimations implicitly rest on stellar oscillation models and solar-calibrated activity-shift prescriptions whose details are unavailable here.

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