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Jasper and Stella: distillation of SOTA embedding models
T0 review · 4 major / 4 minor · reviewed 2026-08-11 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read Jasper, a 2-billion-parameter embedding model, reaches a 71.54 average on the 56-dataset MTEB benchmark by distilling two larger teacher models through a four-stage training scheme, matching 7-billion-parameter systems.
desk verdict A useful 2B embedding artifact with a detailed recipe, but the method's contribution is not isolated from its own teacher/initialization; the 0.35-point gain needs ablations to support the paper's claim. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The engine is a weighted sum of three losses applied over four training stages. The cosine loss $L_{cosine} = \sum_x (1 - s_x \cdot t_x)$ pulls each student vector $s_x$ toward the concatenated normalized teacher vector $t_x$; the similarity loss $L_{sim} = \mathrm{MSE}(S_X S_X^\top, T_X T_X^\top)$ aligns the student's pairwise similarity matrix with the teachers' matrices; and the relative similarity loss $L_{resim}$ uses teacher-scored pairs as soft labels, enforcing that positive pairs score above negative pairs by a margin. Stage 1 trains only the projection layer, Stage 2 also trains the last three encoder layers, Stage 3 adds three Matryoshka projection heads so vectors can be read out at low dimensions such as 512 while the high-dimensional path keeps training, and Stage 4 freezes the text side and trains the vision encoder to match caption embeddings through self-distillation. Because the teachers provide labels, all text distillation runs on unlabeled data.
What would settle it
Run the exact four-stage pipeline once from a much weaker 1.5B base model and once from Stella, and compare MTEB averages; if the weaker base reaches the same 71.5 range, the framework is the driver, while if the score collapses toward the base model's level, the gain is inherited from Stella. A second decisive check is to ablate the two teachers: train the same recipe with only the 4096-dimensional teacher and with only the 8192-dimensional teacher, and see whether the multi-teacher concatenation adds anything beyond the stronger single teacher.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
Jasper is initialized from the Stella 1.5B embedding model and a 400M vision encoder, then trained in four stages. In the first two stages the student's projection layer, and later the last three encoder layers, is aligned to the concatenated normalized outputs of two teacher models, one at 4096 dimensions and one at 8192 dimensions, using a three-loss objective. In the third stage, three extra projection heads are trained so the same model can emit vectors at reduced dimensions, including 512, while the original 12288-dimensional path continues training under all three losses. In the fourth stage, image embeddings are aligned to caption embeddings by self-distillation with the frozen text side as teacher. The headline result is an average MTEB score of 71.54 across 56 datasets, against 72.31 for a 7B teacher model and 71.67 for another 7B model, and the paper's claim is that the multi-stage multi-teacher distillation is what allows a 2B student to sit in that performance class.
Load-bearing premise
The claim rests on the assumption that Jasper's 71.54 score is produced by the proposed multi-stage distillation framework rather than inherited from the strong Stella base model, which is both Jasper's initialization and one of its two teachers.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- A 2B model can reach the same MTEB performance tier as 7B models, making frontier-grade embeddings cheaper to serve and faster at inference.
- Because the three distillation losses require no supervised labels, the same recipe can scale to much larger unlabeled corpora than the 8 million texts used here.
- The Matryoshka heads mean a single deployed model can serve applications needing different vector dimensions, from 512 up to 12288, without separate retraining.
- The four-stage recipe transfers to other encoder-based embedding models, and the paper's self-distillation idea would let any embedding model be compressed to lower dimensions using only unlabeled text.
- The caption-alignment stage provides a basic multimodal retrieval ability, and the authors identify contrastive VQA training as the natural next step.
Reading between the lines
- The paper's own numbers leave open how much of the 0.35-point gain over its Stella base is systematic; repeated runs or ablations with a non-Stella base would settle whether the multi-teacher framework earns that margin.
- The self-distillation dimension-reduction trick is proposed but never evaluated; if it works, it gives a label-free way to shrink any high-dimensional embedding model, not just ones trained by this pipeline.
- Since Stage 4 only aligns captions and the loss oscillates, the multimodal capability is currently a proof of concept; adding hard negatives or contrastive objectives could turn it into a competitive multimodal retriever.
- The same three losses could be adapted to decoder-based embedding models, where the teacher vectors would be pooled from the last-token or mean hidden states rather than from an encoder.
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Editorial analysis
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Referee Report
Summary. The paper proposes a multi-stage distillation framework to train Jasper, a ~2B-parameter embedding model initialized from stella_en_1.5B_v5, using NV-Embed-v2 and Stella as teachers, three loss functions (cosine, similarity, and relative similarity), MRL-based dimension reduction through additional fully connected layers, and a final vision-language alignment stage. Jasper reports an average MTEB score of 71.54 across 56 datasets, ranking No.3 on the leaderboard as of December 24, 2024, and the authors claim this is comparable to 7B-parameter models and significantly outperforms other sub-2B models. The paper also releases the model, data, and training code, and includes an instruction-robustness experiment.
Significance. If the performance attribution is established, this result is practically significant: a compact 2B model with near-7B-level MTEB scores, plus released model, data, and code, would be a useful contribution to the embedding-model community. The leaderboard score is an external measurement that appears accurate as reported. However, the central methodological claim is not isolated from the initialization and fine-tuning effects; the paper lacks ablations that would attribute the 0.35-point gain over Stella to the proposed framework rather than to ordinary fine-tuning or the added components.
major comments (4)
- [§3.1 and Table 1] The central claim that the proposed multi-stage distillation framework enables Jasper's performance is not supported by the experiments as presented. Jasper is initialized from stella_en_1.5B_v5 (Section 3.1), and Stella is also one of the two teachers in Stages 1–2 (Section 2.3), so the only quantitative support for the framework is the 0.35-point MTEB gap between Jasper (71.54) and Stella (71.19) in Table 1. Without ablations that (a) train from a different initialization, (b) remove Stella as a teacher, (c) compare against a single-stage distillation baseline, or (d) remove the added FC/MRL components, the gain could plausibly result from fine-tuning on the 8M-text dataset with the combined losses, from the additional NV-Embed-v2 teacher, or from the newly added fully connected layers, rather than from the specific multi-stage/MRL design. This is load-bearing because the paper's contribution is the framework (abstract, contributions, Section 2).
- [§2.4] The paper explicitly states that the proposed self-distillation approach for dimension reduction was not evaluated: 'we did not conduct experiments to evaluate the specific merits of this proposed approach.' This is a missing evaluation of one of the framework's components, and it prevents the reader from determining whether the MRL-based dimension reduction contributes to the reported 0.35-point gain, or whether that gain comes entirely from the stages that fine-tune the base model.
- [§3.2 and Table 1] The claim that Jasper 'significantly outperforms other models with fewer than 2B parameters' is based on only three sub-2B baselines in Table 1 (Stella_en_1.5B_v5, gte-Qwen2-1.5B-instruct, voyage-lite-02-instruct), one of which is the teacher/initialization of Jasper. No statistical significance test is reported, and the numerical margins (71.54 vs. 71.19, 67.16, and 67.13) are not analyzed for variance across the 56 datasets. The word 'significantly' in the abstract and conclusion is therefore not substantiated beyond point-estimate comparisons.
- [Equation (3)] Equation (3) is not fully specified, which hampers reproducibility of the core relative-similarity distillation loss. The summation condition 'ti·tj > tm·tn' is undefined in terms of which index pairs (i,j) and (m,n) range over, and the sentence after the equation says 'the total number of text pairs (i.e., N) is given by C2 C2m,' which appears garbled (likely intended as the binomial coefficient m choose 2, but the printed expression is not meaningful). This needs to be rewritten with precise index ranges and a correct closed-form expression for N.
minor comments (4)
- [Introduction] In the first paragraph of the Introduction, 'METB leaderboard' should be 'MTEB leaderboard' (the benchmark is named MTEB elsewhere in the paper).
- [Equation (2)] Equation (2) has formatting errors: 'M SE(SX ST X , TX T T X )' should be written with proper matrix notation, such as MSE(S_X S_X^T, T_X T_X^T), and the argument order should be clarified.
- [Table 3] Table 3 is difficult to read because the dataset names and scores are concatenated without visible column separation; please reformat the table so that task type, dataset name, and scores are in distinct columns.
- [Section 3.1] Jasper is described as a '2B' model, but the stated parameter count is 1543M + 400M = 1943M, which is closer to 1.9B; please either adjust the terminology or clarify that '2B' is a rounding of the total.
Circularity Check
No significant circularity: Jasper's MTEB score is externally measured and is not derived from Stella's score by construction.
full rationale
The paper's central claim is that a multi-stage distillation framework with three losses lets a 2B student model (initialized from stella_en_1.5B_v5) reach an average MTEB score of 71.54, compared with Stella's 71.19 and NV-Embed-v2's 72.31 in Table 1. This is an external leaderboard comparison, not a derivation: Jasper's score is a reported evaluation on 56 MTEB datasets, not an analytic consequence of the teachers' scores. The losses in Equations (1)-(4) are training objectives, and no equation in the paper defines the student's final MTEB score in terms of the teacher scores. The use of Stella as both initialization and teacher is transparent in Section 3.1 and Section 2.3, and Stella's score is itself independently listed in Table 1. The paper's self-admitted lack of an ablation in Section 2.4 ('we did not conduct experiments to evaluate the specific merits of this proposed approach') weakens the causal attribution of the +0.35 point gain to the proposed framework, but an absent ablation is an experimental-support issue, not circularity. The skeptical concern that ordinary fine-tuning or the second teacher might explain the gain is a valid correctness/attribution concern, but it does not amount to a claim that the result is equivalent to its inputs by construction. The observed MTEB score is externally reproducible, was not fitted to the benchmark in the paper, and is not a renamed teacher output. Therefore no circular step meeting the required evidentiary standard is present.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (8)
- loss weights lambda1, lambda2, lambda3 =
10, 200, 20
- ranking margin =
0.015
- FC output dimensions for MRL heads =
e.g., 512 via FC3
- per-stage learning rates =
1e-4, 8e-5, 7e-5, 1e-4
- batch sizes =
128, 128, 128, 90
- checkpoint steps =
4000, 7000, 2200, 3500
- text data mixture ratio and total =
80% fineweb-edu / 20% embedding-training-data, 8M total
- student initialization =
stella_en_1.5B_v5
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption MTEB is a valid and transferable measure of embedding quality
- domain assumption Concatenated normalized teacher vectors (then re-normalized) are a good distillation target
- domain assumption The training data does not substantially overlap MTEB test sets
- domain assumption Matryoshka Representation Learning preserves task-relevant information at reduced dimensions
- domain assumption Self-distillation from the student's own FC1 output to shorter FC vectors is a valid training signal
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of Jasper and Stella: distillation of SOTA embedding models." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/PQINM2ET
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year = {2026},
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read the original abstract
A crucial component in many deep learning applications, such as Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) and Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG), is dense retrieval. In this process, embedding models transform raw text into numerical vectors. However, the embedding models that currently excel on text embedding benchmarks, like the Massive Text Embedding Benchmark (MTEB), often have numerous parameters and high vector dimensionality. This poses challenges for their application in real-world scenarios. To address this issue, we propose a novel multi-stage distillation framework that enables a smaller student embedding model to distill multiple larger teacher embedding models through three carefully designed losses. Meanwhile, we utilize Matryoshka Representation Learning (MRL) to reduce the vector dimensionality of the student embedding model effectively. Our student model named Jasper with 2 billion parameters, built upon the Stella embedding model, obtained the No.3 position on the MTEB leaderboard (as of December 24, 2024), achieving an average 71.54 score across 56 datasets. We have released the model and data on the Hugging Face Hub (https://huggingface.co/infgrad/jasper_en_vision_language_v1) (https://huggingface.co/datasets/infgrad/jasper_text_distill_dataset), and the training codes are available in this project repository (https://github.com/NLPJCL/RAG-Retrieval).
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