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arxiv: 2510.05336 · v2 · submitted 2025-10-06 · 💻 cs.CL · cs.AI

WeatherArchive-Bench: Benchmarking Retrieval-Augmented Reasoning for Historical Weather Archives

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keywords WeatherArchive-Benchretrieval-augmented generationhistorical weather archivessocietal vulnerabilityresilience indicatorsclimate researchbenchmark evaluationLLM limitations
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The pith

WeatherArchive-Bench reveals that dense retrievers fail on historical terminology while LLMs misinterpret vulnerability and resilience concepts in weather archives.

A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.

The paper introduces WeatherArchive-Bench as the first benchmark for retrieval-augmented generation systems on historical weather archives. It defines two tasks: retrieving relevant passages from over one million archival news segments and classifying societal vulnerability and resilience indicators from extreme weather narratives. Experiments across retrievers and LLMs show consistent failures with archaic language and complex societal concepts. A sympathetic reader would care because these qualitative archives contain untapped records of how societies have responded to extreme weather, which could inform climate research if properly structured. The results point to specific gaps that must be closed to make large-scale archival data usable.

Core claim

WeatherArchive-Bench comprises the WeatherArchive-Retrieval task, which measures location of historically relevant passages from over one million archival news segments, and the WeatherArchive-Assessment task, which evaluates whether LLMs can classify societal vulnerability and resilience indicators from extreme weather narratives. Experiments demonstrate that dense retrievers often fail on historical terminology while LLMs frequently misinterpret vulnerability and resilience concepts, highlighting key limitations in reasoning about complex societal indicators from noisy, archaic sources.

What carries the argument

WeatherArchive-Bench, a benchmark with retrieval over one million news segments and assessment of vulnerability and resilience indicators from weather narratives.

If this is right

  • Dense retrievers require targeted adaptations to handle archaic and historical terminology.
  • LLMs need improved mechanisms to avoid misinterpretation of societal vulnerability and resilience concepts.
  • Climate researchers gain a concrete evaluation framework for building RAG systems that process primary archival sources.
  • Public release of the dataset and framework enables iterative development of more robust climate-focused retrieval methods.

Where Pith is reading between the lines

These are editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • Similar benchmarks could be constructed for other historical domains such as economic or social records to test RAG generalization.
  • Performance on WeatherArchive-Bench may serve as a proxy for success in long-term studies of societal adaptation to climate extremes.
  • Incorporating explicit historical context or domain knowledge could address the terminology and concept-interpretation failures identified.

Load-bearing premise

The two tasks and chosen indicators of societal vulnerability and resilience accurately reflect the real challenges of turning noisy historical archives into usable knowledge for climate research.

What would settle it

A follow-up study in which systems that score highly on WeatherArchive-Bench are applied to actual climate-research questions and produce no measurable improvement in insight extraction from the same archives.

read the original abstract

Historical archives on weather events are collections of enduring primary source records that offer rich, untapped narratives of how societies have experienced and responded to extreme weather events. These qualitative accounts provide insights into societal vulnerability and resilience that are largely absent from meteorological records, making them valuable for climate scientists to understand societal responses. However, their vast scale, noisy digitized quality, and archaic language make it difficult to transform them into structured knowledge for climate research. To address this challenge, we introduce WeatherArchive-Bench, the first benchmark for evaluating retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) systems on historical weather archives. WeatherArchive-Bench comprises two tasks: WeatherArchive-Retrieval, which measures a system's ability to locate historically relevant passages from over one million archival news segments, and WeatherArchive-Assessment, which evaluates whether Large Language Models (LLMs) can classify societal vulnerability and resilience indicators from extreme weather narratives. Extensive experiments across sparse, dense, and re-ranking retrievers, as well as a diverse set of LLMs, reveal that dense retrievers often fail on historical terminology, while LLMs frequently misinterpret vulnerability and resilience concepts. These findings highlight key limitations in reasoning about complex societal indicators and provide insights for designing more robust climate-focused RAG systems from archival contexts. The constructed dataset and evaluation framework are publicly available at https://anonymous.4open.science/r/WeatherArchive-Bench/.

Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper introduces WeatherArchive-Bench, the first benchmark for retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) systems on historical weather archives. It comprises two tasks: WeatherArchive-Retrieval, which evaluates locating relevant passages from a corpus of over one million digitized archival news segments, and WeatherArchive-Assessment, which tests LLMs on classifying societal vulnerability and resilience indicators from extreme weather narratives. Experiments across sparse, dense, and re-ranking retrievers plus multiple LLMs identify specific failure modes, including dense retrievers struggling with historical terminology and LLMs misinterpreting vulnerability/resilience concepts. The dataset and framework are released publicly.

Significance. If the empirical results hold, the benchmark fills a clear gap by enabling systematic evaluation of RAG pipelines on noisy, archaic historical sources that contain qualitative insights into societal responses to extreme weather—insights absent from standard meteorological data. Credit is due for the 1M+ segment corpus, explicit task definitions, human-annotated labels with reported inter-annotator agreement, breakdown of LLM errors by indicator type, and public release of the evaluation framework. These elements make the artifact immediately usable for climate-focused RAG research.

minor comments (3)
  1. [§3] §3 (Benchmark Construction): while task definitions and the 1M+ corpus size are stated, the precise digitization pipeline, deduplication steps, and temporal coverage statistics should be expanded with a table or figure to allow exact reproduction.
  2. [Table 2] Table 2 (Retrieval results): the nDCG and Recall@K numbers are reported, but adding per-query error analysis or qualitative examples of historical-term failures would strengthen the claim that dense retrievers specifically underperform on archaic language.
  3. [§5.2] §5.2 (LLM Assessment): the inter-annotator agreement is mentioned; reporting the exact Cohen’s or Fleiss’ kappa value and the number of annotators would make the human-label quality claim fully transparent.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for the positive summary, recognition of the benchmark's significance in addressing a clear gap for RAG on noisy historical sources, and the recommendation for minor revision. We appreciate the credit given to the corpus size, task definitions, human annotations with inter-annotator agreement, error breakdowns, and public release. We will prepare a revised manuscript incorporating any minor clarifications or improvements as needed.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity detected

full rationale

The paper introduces WeatherArchive-Bench as an external benchmark with explicitly defined tasks (WeatherArchive-Retrieval on a 1M+ segment corpus and WeatherArchive-Assessment with human-annotated labels), standard metrics (nDCG, Recall@K), and evaluations of off-the-shelf retrievers and LLMs. No derivation chain, equations, or fitted parameters are present that reduce to the paper's own inputs by construction. The core contribution is the dataset and evaluation framework itself, supported by held-out test sets and inter-annotator agreement, rendering the work self-contained without load-bearing self-citations or self-definitional steps.

Axiom & Free-Parameter Ledger

0 free parameters · 1 axioms · 0 invented entities

The benchmark rests on domain assumptions about what counts as societal vulnerability and resilience in historical texts and on standard assumptions in information retrieval evaluation; no free parameters or invented entities are introduced.

axioms (1)
  • domain assumption Historical news segments contain extractable information on societal vulnerability and resilience to extreme weather events.
    This premise justifies the WeatherArchive-Assessment task and the choice of indicators.

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