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Arguments Against a Finite N=8 Supergravity

High Energy Physics - Theory · Submitted 25 May 2012

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The authors' main claim I present arguments based on dispersion theory and the existence of charged BPS states of small charge, that maximally supersymmetric SUGRA is not a finite theory.

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CitationT. Banks. "Arguments Against a Finite N=8 Supergravity." arXiv:1205.5768 (2012). https://pith.science/paper/ELJW4FYI
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I present arguments based on dispersion theory and the existence of charged BPS states of small charge, that maximally supersymmetric SUGRA is not a finite theory. The essence of the argument is that the perturbative construction of the theory implies that scattering amplitudes are invariant under a continuous SU(8) global symmetry, which is broken by contributions from virtual BPS states. Conventional estimates of the contributions of those states above production threshold, shows that they should be order one. If the amplitude satisfies a dispersion relation with a finite number of subtractions, as has recently been argued by Giddings and Porto [1], then SU(8) violating amplitudes appear at finite orders in the low energy expansion. We also make a brief remark about the inconsistency of the idea of classicalization in non-gravitational theories.

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s0 I present arguments based on dispersion theory and the existence of charged BPS states of small charge, that maximally supersymmetric SUGRA is not a finite theory. result 0.63 0.88 0.95 asserted 1.00
s1 The essence of the argument is that the perturbative construction of the theory implies that scattering amplitudes are invariant under a continuous SU(8) global symmetry, which is broken by contributions from virtual BPS states. method 0.40 0.43 0.10 asserted 1.00
s2 Conventional estimates of the contributions of those states above production threshold, shows that they should be order one. result 0.59 0.47 0.03 asserted 0.86
s3 If the amplitude satisfies a dispersion relation with a finite number of subtractions, as has recently been argued by Giddings and Porto [1], then SU(8) violating amplitudes appear at finite orders in the low energy expansion. result 0.63 0.19 0.14 asserted 0.64
s4 We also make a brief remark about the inconsistency of the idea of classicalization in non-gravitational theories. contribution 0.75 0.61 0.02 asserted 0.85

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I present arguments based on dispersion theory and the existence of charged BPS states of small charge, that maximally supersymmetric SUGRA is not a finite theory. The essence of the argument is that the perturbative construction of the theory implies that scattering amplitudes are invariant under a continuous SU(8) global symmetry, which is broken by contributions from virtual BPS states. Conventional estimates of the contributions of those states above production threshold, shows that they should be order one. If the amplitude satisfies a dispersion relation with a finite number of subtractions, as has recently been argued by Giddings and Porto [1], then SU(8) violating amplitudes appear at finite orders in the low energy expansion. We also make a brief remark about the inconsistency of the idea of classicalization in non-gravitational theories.

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  • A more explicit and general argument supporting unsubtracted dispersion relations is that, as argued in Refs. [ref] (see also [ref] ), the gravitational 2-body elastic scattering amplitude $f(s,t)$ of any theory obeying Hermitian unitarity and crossing symmetry is polynomially bound in the complex-$s$ upper half plane for fixed Mandelstam variable $t$.

    New Sum Rules from Low Energy Compton Scattering on Arbitrary Spin Target · A Puzzle with $N=8$ Supergravity and a Possible Solution · 1.00

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  • Since gravity is perturbatively non-renormalisable, its naive quantisation leads to divergent amplitudes unless some unexpected cancellation takes place.[This is only conjectured to happen for highly symmetric theories such as $𝒩=8$ supergravity (see [ref] as well as references therein for recent arguments in favour of and against this possibility).] Amplitudes in string theory, on the other hand, are believed to be finite.

    Backreaction of Localised Sources in String Compactifications · Introduction · 0.88

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