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arxiv: 1907.02283 · v1 · pith:6FQKMHQMnew · submitted 2019-07-04 · 🌌 astro-ph.HE · gr-qc· hep-ph

Eccentricity Without Measuring Eccentricity: Discriminating Among Stellar Mass Black Hole Binary Formation Channels

Lisa Randall , Zhong-Zhi Xianyu This is my paper

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Eccentricity influences LISA binary counts via peak frequency, required density for LIGO rate match, and SNR reduction, enabling formation channel discrimination through frequency-dependent number counts without direct eccentricity measurement.

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Stellar mass black hole binaries form through different channels that likely produce different orbital eccentricities. Eccentric binaries emit gravitational waves at higher peak frequencies than circular ones. To match the merger rate seen by LIGO, more eccentric binaries are required because each contributes less to the detectable population. Eccentric signals also have reduced signal-to-noise ratio. The paper calculates the combined effect of these factors on the number of binaries detectable by the future LISA mission at different frequencies. By looking at how the number of detections changes with frequency, the underlying eccentricity distribution can be inferred and formation channels distinguished, without needing to measure eccentricity for any single event. A simplified calculation for the signal-to-noise ratio of eccentric binaries is also provided.

Core claim

We show how the observable number of binaries in LISA is affected by eccentricity through its influence on the peak gravitational wave frequency, enhanced binary number density required to produce the LIGO observed rate, and the reduced signal-to-noise ratio for an eccentric event. We also demonstrate how these effects should make it possible to learn about the eccentricity distribution and formation channels by counting the number of binaries as a function of frequency, even with no explicit detection of eccentricity.

Load-bearing premise

Different formation channels produce sufficiently distinct eccentricity distributions whose effects on peak frequency, required number density, and SNR produce distinguishable signatures in the frequency-dependent number counts (inferred from the abstract's framing of enhanced density to match LIGO rate and the proposed discrimination method).

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Figure 1. Figure 1: FIG. 1: The binary eccentricity [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p002_1.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 3. Figure 3: FIG. 3: LEFT: The SNR of a non-chirping eccentric binary [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p004_3.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 4. Figure 4: FIG. 4: The number of resolvable ( [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_4.png] view at source ↗
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Figure 5. Figure 5: FIG. 5: Rearrangement of histograms in Fig. [PITH_FULL_IMAGE:figures/full_fig_p005_5.png] view at source ↗
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We show how the observable number of binaries in LISA is affected by eccentricity through its influence on the peak gravitational wave frequency, enhanced binary number density required to produce the LIGO observed rate, and the reduced signal-to-noise ratio for an eccentric event. We also demonstrate how these effects should make it possible to learn about the eccentricity distribution and formation channels by counting the number of binaries as a function of frequency, even with no explicit detection of eccentricity. We also provide a simplified calculation for signal-to-noise ratio of eccentric binaries.

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Referee Report

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Summary. The paper claims that eccentricity in stellar-mass black-hole binaries affects the observable number of sources in LISA via three mechanisms: shifts in the peak gravitational-wave frequency, the rescaling of total binary number density needed to reproduce the LIGO-observed merger rate, and a reduction in signal-to-noise ratio. It argues that these effects produce distinguishable signatures in the frequency-dependent number counts, allowing inference of the eccentricity distribution and formation channels even without explicit eccentricity measurements. A simplified SNR calculation for eccentric binaries is also presented.

Significance. If the central claim holds after addressing potential degeneracies, the work would offer a practical, indirect probe of black-hole binary formation channels using LISA number counts normalized to the LIGO rate. This leverages standard gravitational-wave physics without requiring new observables and could complement direct eccentricity searches, provided the frequency dependence alone suffices to separate channels.

major comments (1)
  1. The central claim that eccentricity distributions produce observationally separable number-vs-frequency curves rests on the assumption that these signatures are not degenerate with variations in the black-hole mass function or redshift-dependent formation rates. Because peak frequency depends on both eccentricity and orbital separation, and the LIGO rate normalization itself depends on the eccentricity-dependent merger timescale, changes in mass function or formation history could compensate for eccentricity differences and produce overlapping count curves. The manuscript must include explicit tests or simulations demonstrating that the frequency dependence breaks these degeneracies.
minor comments (1)
  1. The abstract states that a simplified SNR calculation is provided; the manuscript should clarify the range of eccentricities and frequencies over which the approximation remains accurate and compare it to existing eccentric SNR formulas in the literature.

Simulated Author's Rebuttal

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We thank the referee for their constructive review and for recognizing the potential utility of our approach. We address the single major comment below.

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  1. Referee: The central claim that eccentricity distributions produce observationally separable number-vs-frequency curves rests on the assumption that these signatures are not degenerate with variations in the black-hole mass function or redshift-dependent formation rates. Because peak frequency depends on both eccentricity and orbital separation, and the LIGO rate normalization itself depends on the eccentricity-dependent merger timescale, changes in mass function or formation history could compensate for eccentricity differences and produce overlapping count curves. The manuscript must include explicit tests or simulations demonstrating that the frequency dependence breaks these degeneracies.

    Authors: We agree that this is a substantive concern. Our analysis isolates the eccentricity effects by adopting a fixed mass function and a simplified, redshift-independent formation rate. To directly test whether the frequency-dependent signatures remain separable, the revised manuscript will incorporate explicit Monte Carlo simulations that vary the black-hole mass-function slope and include a simple redshift-dependent formation-rate model. These tests will quantify the degree of overlap in the number-vs-frequency curves for different eccentricity distributions under such variations. revision: yes

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; LIGO rate is external normalization

full rationale

The paper applies standard gravitational-wave physics (peak frequency shift, SNR reduction for eccentric binaries) to eccentricity distributions from different formation channels, then rescales total number density to match the observed LIGO merger rate as an external input. No equations reduce a claimed prediction to a fitted parameter by construction, no load-bearing self-citations justify uniqueness, and no ansatz is smuggled via prior work. The frequency-dependent count method follows directly from the listed effects without self-definition or renaming of known results. The derivation remains self-contained against external benchmarks.

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