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Pleba\'nski-Demia\'nski solutions in bigravity and Kerr-Schild double copy relations using an effective metric

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Pith's one-line read This paper claims that the Plebański-Demiański family of stationary electrovacuum spacetimes can be embedded in bimetric gravity, with each metric having independent mass, NUT, and charge parameters, and that these solutions satisfy the…

desk verdict A useful extension of the Kerr-Schild double copy to double Kerr-Schild bigravity, but the stationary Plebanski-Demianski claim is only supported in the unstated massless sector P0=0; the paper needs revision before it can be trusted. read the letter →

arxiv 2412.17191 v1 pith:OLYIJQI4 submitted 2024-12-22 gr-qc hep-th

Hugo García-Compeán , César I. Ramos This is my paper · ORCID
classification gr-qchep-th MSC 83C5783C2083D05 PACS 04.20.Jb04.50.Kd
keywords bigravityPlebanski-DemianskisolutionKerr-SchilddoublecopyeffectivemetricTaub-NUTAdSwavesmassivegravityexactsolutions
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The reading

This paper claims that the Plebański-Demiański family of stationary electrovacuum spacetimes—the general type-D class that contains Kerr, Taub-NUT, Schwarzschild, and their charged and (anti-)de Sitter limits—can be embedded in bimetric gravity (bigravity), where two dynamical metrics interact and each is coupled to matter. The proposed metrics (6.11), scalar functions (6.12), and Maxwell fields (6.13) are asserted to satisfy the bigravity equations of motion (6.10) at the double copy level, and the derived single and zeroth copy equations follow the Kerr-Schild classical double copy. The two metrics may carry different masses $m_i$, NUT parameters $N_i$, electric charges $Q_i$, and magnetic charges $G_i$, while sharing the same kinematical parameters and having cosmological constants related by $\Lambda_f=\Lambda_g/C^2$. The claim matters because it would extend the classical double copy from general relativity to a ghost-free massive spin-2 theory coupled to matter, providing exact two-metric black-hole-type solutions and a cleaner coordinate setting for the double copy equations.

What carries the argument

The central object is the proportional double Kerr-Schild ansatz (4.8), in which both metrics are written as a common Plebański background plus two null perturbations built from the same null vectors $k_\mu,l_\mu$: $g_{\mu\nu}=\bar{g}_{\mu\nu}+\kappa_g(\varphi_g k_\mu k_\nu+\psi_g l_\mu l_\nu)$ and $f_{\mu\nu}=C^2(\bar{g}_{\mu\nu}+\kappa_f(\dots))$. This ansatz makes powers of the interaction matrix $\gamma$ linear in the perturbation, so the bigravity interaction tensors close, and it supports the double copy identifications $A_\mu=\varphi k_\mu+\psi l_\mu$ and $\Upsilon=\varphi+\psi$. Plebański coordinates do the load-bearing work: they render the non-linear Ricci contribution zero (by claim), so the equations (6.10) used to verify the solution are the exact linearized equations.

What would settle it

Compute the non-linear Ricci contribution $R_{\mu\nu,\mathrm{NL}}$ for the metrics (6.11) with scalars (6.12) in Plebański coordinates; if it is nonzero, equations (6.10) are only linearized approximations rather than exact field equations.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

On the paper's own terms, the central discovery is that a proportional double Kerr-Schild ansatz with a Plebański background admits stationary solutions of Plebański-Demiański type in bigravity. In Plebański coordinates the non-linear part of the Ricci tensor is claimed to vanish, so the linearized equations (4.7) become exact; the fields in (6.11)–(6.13) then solve (6.10). At the single copy level the vector fields $A_\mu=\varphi k_\mu+\psi l_\mu$ satisfy sourced Maxwell equations, and at the zeroth copy the scalar $\Upsilon=\varphi+\psi$ satisfies sourced Klein-Gordon equations, with the inhomogeneous charge part obeying the coordinate-dependent equation (6.15). The paper also reports that in the proportional-metric subcase the massive '−' fields are zero, so only the massless '+' combination propagates.

Load-bearing premise

The exactness of the solution rests on the unproved claim that the non-linear part of the Ricci tensor cancels in Plebański coordinates for this double Kerr-Schild form; if that cancellation fails, the proposed fields solve only the linearized equations.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • If the solution family is exactly as claimed, bigravity contains a full Plebański-Demiański sector with independent mass and NUT parameters in the two metrics, giving a concrete arena for studying massive-gravity corrections to Kerr-like spacetimes.
  • The classical Kerr-Schild double copy then applies to electrovacuum bigravity at all three copy levels, with the additional rotating-coordinate source terms that plague other coordinate systems absent in Plebański coordinates.
  • In the proportional-metrics case the decoupled '−' fields vanish at double, single, and zeroth copy levels, so the observable extra polarization content is carried only by the massless '+' combination.
  • In the effective-metric cases with $G=Q$ the electromagnetic energy-momentum tensors vanish, reproducing the GR situation where the charges do not back-react on the geometry.
  • Taking the charges to zero or taking suitable limits recovers the previously known single-Kerr-Schild bigravity solutions and the GR Plebański-Demiański and Taub-NUT limits.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The paper leaves implicit a direct check of the vanishing non-linear Ricci term; a concrete calculation of that term for (6.11)–(6.12) would either confirm or falsify the exactness of the proposed solutions.
  • The coordinate simplification found here suggests that Plebański-type coordinates may be the right framework for defining exact double-copy maps for accelerating, charged, and NUT-charged backgrounds in other massive or higher-dimensional theories.
  • One could test the durability of the construction by coupling the two Maxwell sectors to each other rather than treating them as independent, or by adding a dilaton field to the effective-metric matter sector.
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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

3 major / 4 minor

Summary. The paper extends the classical Kerr-Schild double copy to a double Kerr-Schild ansatz in ghost-free bigravity with matter. It derives double, single, and zeroth copy equations for maximally symmetric backgrounds, then applies the formalism to AdS waves and to a Plebanski-Demianski-type family in bigravity with independent mass, NUT, electric and magnetic charge parameters for the two metrics, sharing kinematical parameters and related cosmological constants. The central claim is that the metrics (6.11), scalar functions (6.12), and Maxwell fields (6.13) satisfy the bigravity equations (6.10) at the double, single, and zeroth copy levels.

Significance. If the central verification is completed, the paper would provide the first double Kerr-Schild bigravity solutions that carry independent mass/NUT/charge parameters and a double-copy interpretation, extending [54] to a larger family of type D spacetimes. The use of Plebanski coordinates to eliminate the extra single-copy source terms found in [54] is a useful technical simplification, and the formal structure in Section 4 is a natural generalization. However, the paper's "satisfy" statements are asserted rather than demonstrated, the interaction terms proportional to P0 are omitted without a stated restriction, and the scalar functions in (6.12) appear to have a p/q coordinate swap relative to the GR seed. The double copy relations themselves are, by construction, consequences of the linearized bigravity equations once the fields Aμ and Υ are defined by stripping null vectors; this is a bookkeeping map rather than an independent prediction, and the paper should say so explicitly.

major comments (3)
  1. [6.3-6.4, Eq. (6.10) vs (4.15)] The bigravity equations (6.10) that the Plebanski-Demianski family is claimed to satisfy omit the off-diagonal interaction terms -B1(κg hμν - C^2 κf hμν) and +B1(...) present in the full double Kerr-Schild equations (4.15), and similarly the single-copy equations (4.16) contain 2B1(κg Aμ - C^2 κf Aμ). These terms vanish only if B1=0, i.e., P0=0. The paper does not impose or announce this restriction for the stationary family; it even emphasizes that m_i, N_i, Q_i, G_i are unrestricted. For generic potential parameters b_k, the combination κg Aμ - C^2 κf Aμ is not zero for the fields (6.12)-(6.13), so a residual B1 source remains and the stated equations (6.10) are not the full bigravity field equations. The central claim therefore holds at most in the massless sector P0=0; this restriction and its check must be added.
  2. [6.3, Eq. (6.12)] The scalar functions φg, ψg (and φf, ψf) in (6.12) have the mass and NUT parameters interchanged relative to the GR seed (6.3): in (6.3) the mass m multiplies q and the NUT parameter N multiplies p, with φ proportional to 2mq - Q^2 and ψ to 2Np + G^2, whereas in (6.12) φg ∝ 2m1p - Q1^2 and ψg ∝ 2N1q + G1^2. With the coordinate identification (6.8) (q = r, p = a cosθ) and the stated interpretation m_i = mass, N_i = NUT, this is inconsistent and would reduce to the wrong GR limit. The inconsistency is confirmed by (6.18), which uses 2m1q - Q^2 + 2N1p + G^2 with the correct assignment. The p/q swap in (6.12) must be corrected and the solution re-verified.
  3. [4, before Eq. (4.6); 6.4] The vanishing of the non-linear Ricci contribution Rμν,NL in Plebanski coordinates is asserted but not demonstrated, even though the linearized equations (4.7) and all subsequent equations (4.15)-(4.17) and (6.10) rest on it. Moreover, the claim that (6.11)-(6.13) "satisfy" (6.10) is not backed by a derivation: the paper gives the final source expressions (6.14) and the inhomogeneous equations (6.15) but no computation showing that the proposed fields actually solve the equations. Since this is the central result, the authors should include the explicit verification (or a supplementary computer-algebra file) and justify the vanishing of Rμν,NL for the specific double Kerr-Schild metrics (6.11)-(6.12).
minor comments (4)
  1. [3.2] The paragraph beginning "Recently it was found that the double copy in AdS3 can be related to a minitwistor space..." is unrelated to the Kerr-Schild double copy in GR and appears to be an accidentally inserted passage from a different paper; it should be removed or moved to an appropriate discussion.
  2. [6.3, Eqs. (6.12)-(6.13)] The Maxwell field (6.13) pairs the electric charge Q1 with q and the magnetic charge G1 with p, as in the GR seed, but the scalar functions in (6.12) pair the charges with the opposite coordinates; after fixing the p/q swap identified in major comment 2, the authors should ensure that the charge assignments in (6.12) and (6.13) are mutually consistent.
  3. [6.4, Eq. (6.18)] The expression for Υ+ in (6.18) is typeset with ambiguous parentheses and appears to use the opposite p/q assignment from (6.12); it should be rewritten unambiguously and checked for consistency with the corrected (6.12).
  4. [Conclusions] The concluding statement that the separate sector "permits unrestricted parameters mi, Ni, Qi, Gi" overstates the result, since the interaction terms in the field equations require P0=0 (or an explicit cancellation) as discussed in major comment 1.

Circularity Check

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No significant circularity; the derivation is ansatz-based and the double-copy equations are consequences of the in-paper field equations, with the main technical gap being a correctness issue rather than a circular reduction.

full rationale

The paper's derivation chain is not circular. The bigravity equations are rederived in Section 4 from the action and the double Kerr-Schild ansatz: the interaction tensors (4.9), the contracted equations (4.15)-(4.17), and the algebraic decoupling definitions (4.19)-(4.20) are all presented in-paper. The Plebański-Demiański fields (6.11)-(6.13) are proposed as candidate solutions with parameters left free, not fitted to force agreement, and the simplification (6.9) is asserted as a coordinate property to be verified rather than an equation defined in terms of the solution. The single- and zeroth-copy fields are extracted from the metric perturbation by the standard Kerr-Schild rule A_mu = phi k_mu, so their equations are consequences of the contracted gravity equations; this is the intended double-copy structure, not a camouflaged prediction. Citations to the authors' prior work [54] provide context and some AdS-wave results, but the double-KS formalism used here is derived independently, so the self-citations are not load-bearing. The main technical concern is that (6.10) drops the interaction terms proportional to B1 present in (4.15)-(4.17), which are proportional to P0; for generic mass and charge parameters these vanish only if P0=0, a restriction not stated for the stationary family. That is a potential correctness or consistency gap, as is the asserted vanishing of the non-linear Ricci contribution in Plebański coordinates, but it is not a circular step: the claim would be false rather than true by construction. Therefore the circularity score is 0.

Assumptions & free parameters 5 free parameters · 5 assumptions · 0 invented entities

The central claim rests on the standard bigravity theory, the effective metric coupling, the nilpotency of the double Kerr-Schild perturbations, the asserted vanishing of the non-linear Ricci terms in Plebanski coordinates, and an unstated restriction to the P0=0 sector. These are inputs the reader must accept from the prior literature or from the paper's own assertions.

free parameters (5)
  • C
    Proportionality constant between the two metrics in the ansatz (4.8); chosen by hand and not fixed by the dynamics.
  • alpha
    Effective metric coupling in (2.7); chosen by hand, with special cases beta=0 or beta proportional to alpha.
  • beta
    Effective metric coupling in (2.7); chosen by hand, with special cases beta=0 or beta proportional to alpha.
  • P0 (combination of bigravity couplings) = implicitly set to 0
    The stationary equations (6.10) lack the B1 interaction terms present in (4.15), which requires B1=0, i.e., P0=0; this restriction is not stated in Section 6.
  • cosmological constant ratio = Lambda_f = Lambda_g / C^2
    Restriction relating the two cosmological constants; used in the stationary solutions (Section 6.3).
assumptions (5)
  • domain assumption The Hassan-Rosen bigravity action (2.1) with the ghost-free potential (2.2) is the theory under study.
    Standard bigravity theory from [30]; the paper assumes its validity and does not re-derive its consistency.
  • domain assumption The effective metric coupling (2.7) with parameters alpha and beta is a valid symmetric coupling of matter to both metrics.
    From [56]; the paper uses this to define symmetric matter coupling in Sections 5 and 6.5.
  • standard math For the double Kerr-Schild ansatz, the perturbation matrix is nilpotent, giving the exact closed form (gamma^n) in Section 4.1.
    Follows from k and l being null and orthogonal; the paper states the result without proof.
  • ad hoc to paper The non-linear Ricci contribution R_{\mu\nu,NL} vanishes in Plebanski coordinates for the double Kerr-Schild ansatz.
    Assumed in Section 4 before Eq. (4.6); no derivation is given, and it is load-bearing for the stationary solutions.
  • ad hoc to paper The stationary solutions require the interaction terms B1 to vanish, i.e., P0=0.
    Equation (6.10) has no B1 terms; this restriction on the bigravity couplings is not stated in Section 6.

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In this work a formalism for proportional generalized double Kerr-Schild ansatz in bigravity is considered, where both metrics are coupled to matter. We study time-dependent and stationary solutions in the framework of the Kerr-Schild classical double copy and obtain the classical Kerr-Schild for the double, single and zeroth copy equations. For the time-dependent case, we use AdS waves solutions in bigravity previously studied in the literature. For the stationary case, we discuss a kind of Pleba\'nski-Demia\'nski solutions in bigravity which permit different masses, NUT parameters, electric and magnetic charges, while the kinematical parameters are the same, and the cosmological constants related. These solution is presented in Pleba\'nski coordinates, and it is noticed that in these coordinates the description simplifies the classical double copy equations allowing a clearer interpretation in terms of the defined fields. We present and interpret some cases for these solutions for the separate matter sector and using the effective metric.

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