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arxiv 2412.18724 v2 submitted 2024-12-25 hep-th math-phmath.COmath.DSmath.MP

Andrei Grekov , Nikita Nekrasov This is my paper · ORCID
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The paper examines extensions of the Vershik-Kerov limit shape problem that arise in topological string theory and supersymmetric gauge theory instanton counting. It treats the cases of circular and linear quiver theories in detail and introduces a double-elliptic generalization defined through six-dimensional gauge theory compactified on a torus together with elliptic cohomology of the Hilbert scheme of points. The central result is that the limit shape in this double-elliptic setting is controlled by a genus two algebraic curve. A reader cares because the result links a classical combinatorial limit-shape question to an algebraic curve of higher genus and thereby indicates dualities between enumerative and equivariant parameters.

What carries the argument

The genus two algebraic curve that governs the limit shape in the double-elliptic Vershik-Kerov setting.

What would settle it

An explicit computation of the limit shape for a concrete double-elliptic quiver theory whose shape fails to coincide with any genus two algebraic curve.

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Core claim

In the double-elliptic generalization of the Vershik-Kerov problem, related to six-dimensional gauge theory compactified on a torus and to elliptic cohomology of the Hilbert scheme of points on a plane, the limit shape is governed by a genus two algebraic curve. This suggests unexpected dualities between the enumerative and equivariant parameters.

Load-bearing premise

The double-elliptic generalization is correctly defined by six-dimensional gauge theory compactified on a torus and elliptic cohomology of the Hilbert scheme so that the limit shape problem is well-posed.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Circular and linear quiver theories admit limit-shape descriptions inside the same generalized framework.
  • Dualities between enumerative and equivariant parameters follow from the presence of the genus two curve.
  • The limit shape problem remains well-posed once the elliptic cohomology of the Hilbert scheme is used to define the double-elliptic case.

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  • Analogous higher-genus curves may control limit shapes in further string-theory motivated generalizations.
  • Direct numerical checks of the predicted dualities are possible by comparing enumerative counts against equivariant parameters in specific models.
  • The same curve-governed structure could appear in other enumerative problems built from Hilbert schemes.
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Summary. The paper generalizes the Vershik-Kerov limit shape problem to circular and linear quiver theories in the context of topological string theory and supersymmetric gauge theory instanton counting. It introduces a double-elliptic generalization tied to six-dimensional gauge theory compactified on a torus and to elliptic cohomology of the Hilbert scheme of points on a plane. The central result is a claimed proof that the limit shape in this double-elliptic setting is governed by a genus-two algebraic curve, which is said to suggest unexpected dualities between enumerative and equivariant parameters.

Significance. If the claimed proof is correct, the result would establish a direct link between the limit shape in the double-elliptic quiver setting and a genus-two curve, potentially revealing parameter dualities that connect enumerative geometry with the geometry of higher-genus curves in gauge-theoretic contexts. This could open avenues for relating elliptic cohomology constructions to algebraic curve techniques in instanton counting problems.

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  1. [Abstract] Abstract: the statement 'We prove that the limit shape in that setting is governed by a genus two algebraic curve' is presented without any equations defining the measure, the partition function, the double-elliptic generalization, or any derivation steps. This absence is load-bearing for the central claim, as the soundness of the asserted proof cannot be verified from the provided text.

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  1. Referee: [Abstract] Abstract: the statement 'We prove that the limit shape in that setting is governed by a genus two algebraic curve' is presented without any equations defining the measure, the partition function, the double-elliptic generalization, or any derivation steps. This absence is load-bearing for the central claim, as the soundness of the asserted proof cannot be verified from the provided text.

    Authors: The abstract is written as a concise summary of the paper's main results, consistent with standard practice. The measure, partition function, double-elliptic generalization (tied to 6d gauge theory on a torus and elliptic cohomology of Hilb(C^2)), and the full derivation establishing governance by the genus-two curve are defined and proved in the body of the manuscript. We therefore maintain that the claim is verifiable from the complete text. That said, we acknowledge the referee's point that the abstract's brevity makes the central claim harder to assess at a glance; we will revise the abstract to include one or two brief definitional phrases and a pointer to the relevant sections. revision: partial

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The visible abstract and description present the double-elliptic Vershik-Kerov problem as defined by six-dimensional gauge theory compactified on a torus and elliptic cohomology of the Hilbert scheme, with a claimed proof that the limit shape is governed by a genus-two curve. No equations, explicit constructions of measures or partition functions, or derivation steps appear in the provided text, so no load-bearing step can be shown to reduce by construction to its own inputs. The result is offered as a derived consequence of the setup rather than a renaming, fit, or self-citation chain, rendering the derivation self-contained.

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Several generalizations of Vershik-Kerov limit shape problem are motivated by topological string theory and supersymmetric gauge theory instanton count. In this paper specifically we study the circular and linear quiver theories. We also briefly discuss the double-elliptic generalization of the Vershik-Kerov problem, related to six dimensional gauge theory compactified on a torus, and to elliptic cohomology of the Hilbert scheme of points on a plane. We prove that the limit shape in that setting is governed by a genus two algebraic curve, suggesting unexpected dualities between the enumerative and equivariant parameters.

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