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PADAM: Parallel averaged Adam reduces the error for stochastic optimization in scientific machine learning
T0 review · 5 major / 5 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read Parallel averaged Adam (PADAM) runs several exponential-moving-average channels of a single Adam trajectory in parallel, selects at checkpoints the channel with the smallest optimization error, and claims this reaches essentially the…
desk verdict PADAM's headline result is undercut by test-loss oracle selection; the method is worth a rerun with honest evaluation, not a citation yet. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The central object is the PADAM process in Definition 2.2: one Adam process $\vartheta^0$ whose gradients are shared by all channels, together with $K$ auxiliary EMA processes $\vartheta^k_n = \delta_{n,k}\,\vartheta^k_{n-1} + (1-\delta_{n,k})\,\Theta_n$ that track the same Adam iterate under different averaging weights $\delta_{n,k}$. At checkpoints the method evaluates the batch loss of each channel and returns the channel with the smallest loss, as specified in Algorithm 1. This carries the argument because it converts the problem of choosing an averaging schedule into a cheap online selection among schedules: each channel costs one vector recurrence per step, and all channels use the same gradients.
What would settle it
Take PADAM10 with the published schedules and run it on a new PDE or optimal-control problem where the best of the ten channels is known in hindsight; if the dynamically selected channel's error is consistently larger than the best channel's error, or if a single fixed schedule outside the bank beats all ten, the selection mechanism and schedule bank are not doing the claimed work.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The paper's central claim is that parallel averaged Adam (PADAM), a wrapper that runs several EMA-averaged versions of a single Adam trajectory side by side and at checkpoints switches to the version with the lowest current loss, reaches essentially the smallest optimization error in nearly all of the 13 stochastic optimization and DNN learning problems studied. The comparison includes standard SGD, momentum SGD, Adam, Adam with EMA, Adam with Ruppert–Polyak averaging, and AdamW, and PADAM does this with the same number of gradient evaluations as plain Adam. The claim is empirical, established through numerical experiments spanning physics-informed neural networks, deep Galerkin and deep Ritz methods, deep BSDE, deep Kolmogorov, optimal control, and optimal stopping problems.
Load-bearing premise
PADAM's advantage rests on the hand-picked averaging schedules, which the paper says were found by trial and error, being well matched to the problems; if those schedules were effectively tuned on the 13 benchmarks, the method may not beat a single well-chosen average on new problems.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- PADAM3 and PADAM10 reach essentially the smallest optimization error in nearly all of the 13 problems, sometimes tied with other methods and sometimes exclusively, with no more gradient evaluations than plain Adam.
- Because all channels share one Adam trajectory, PADAM is a drop-in addition to existing training loops for PINNs, deep Ritz, deep BSDE, deep Kolmogorov, optimal control, and optimal stopping solvers, with only minor extra computing time for large networks.
- A small parallel bank of EMA schedules removes the need to commit in advance to a single averaging parameter; the selection rule picks among schedules online.
- The strong empirical results support treating PADAM as a default optimizer for scientific machine learning problems and motivate further work on adaptive averaging procedures in deep neural network training.
Reading between the lines
- The selection mechanism does not depend on Adam specifically, so a natural extension is to run parallel averaging over AdamW, SGD with momentum, or other base optimizers and apply the same best-channel rule.
- Channel selection uses the loss on one fresh mini-batch; on problems with very small batches or very noisy losses, a reader could test whether selecting on a larger validation batch changes the outcome, since the paper's runs use batches of 256 and checkpoint thresholds of 500 or 5000 steps.
- The hand-tuned schedules are the fragile part; an adaptive scheduler that adds, removes, or updates channels during training could extend the idea beyond the fixed PADAM3 and PADAM10 channel sets.
- On problems where one averaging schedule dominates, PADAM should reduce to that schedule and match its error; the open empirical question is whether the selected channel tracks the best fixed schedule on problems outside the benchmark set.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The manuscript proposes PADAM (parallel averaged Adam), a stochastic optimizer that maintains K exponentially/moving-averaged channels of a single Adam trajectory and selects among those channels during or after training. Because all channels share the same underlying gradient evaluations, the method uses no more gradient evaluations than standard Adam. The paper reports experiments on 13 problems—polynomial regression, Gaussian density fitting, deep Kolmogorov, deep Ritz, PINN, deep BSDE, optimal control, and optimal stopping—comparing PADAM3/PADAM10 against SGD, momentum SGD, AdamW, and Adam with Ruppert–Polyak or EMA averaging. The central claim is that PADAM attains essentially the smallest optimization error in nearly all examples, with Python code made publicly available.
Significance. If the empirical claim were established, PADAM would be a practically attractive, nearly free modification of Adam: the user obtains a menu of averaged trajectories at no extra gradient cost and can pick a better final iterate. The paper's strengths are its breadth (13 problems, up to 50 independent runs per problem) and the provision of source code. However, the plotted PADAM curves are a test-loss oracle envelope over the K channels, not the output of the selection rule in Algorithm 1; together with a mismatch between Definition 2.2 and Algorithm 1, this means the advertised advantage is not demonstrated for the implementable method. The trial-and-error schedules and uneven baseline learning-rate choices further weaken the general recommendation.
major comments (5)
- [§2.2, Algorithm 1] Algorithm 1, line 10 updates the second moment as 'v ← βn m + (1 − βn)g⊗2'. To match Definition 2.1, Eq. (3), this should read 'v ← βn v + (1 − βn)g⊗2'; as printed, the second-moment estimate is driven by the first moment m rather than by its own previous value, so the pseudocode does not implement Adam and would not reproduce the experiments. Please correct the pseudocode and confirm that the released code implements the corrected update.
- [§2.2, Definition 2.2 and Algorithm 1] Definition 2.2 does not describe Algorithm 1. In Definition 2.2(ii), each channel ϑ^k_n is updated using Θ_n, the PADAM output selected in (iii), whereas in Algorithm 1, line 15, channels are updated with the raw Adam iterate ϑ. Moreover, (iii) selects a channel at every step n and sets Θ_n to the selected channel, while Algorithm 1 updates all channels throughout and performs a single selection at the final step (lines 18–23). These are different methods, and the formal definition must be reconciled with the pseudocode or explicitly presented as a separate variant.
- [§2.2, paragraph after Algorithm 1] The curves labeled PADAM3 and PADAM10 are not produced by Algorithm 1's selection rule. The text states that 'we compute the test errors ... for the different channels ... and then plot the test error of the best performing channel'. This is a test-set oracle: at every evaluation point the plotted curve is the minimum over the K channels of their test errors. Algorithm 1 instead selects k* once at the end using a disjoint mini-batch loss. The plotted envelope cannot be worse than any fixed channel, so the claimed error reduction may be an artifact of selecting the best of K candidates with access to the evaluation labels. The central empirical claim should be demonstrated with the implementable selection rule, or the plots should be explicitly labeled as an idealized oracle-selection upper bound.
- [§2.2, averaging schedules] The averaging weights (i)–(x) for PADAM3 and PADAM10 are said to have been 'found by trial and error'. Because the same 13 problems are used both to tune these schedules and to demonstrate PADAM's advantage, the reported results may overstate performance on new problems. Please provide a protocol for selecting the schedules without test-set feedback (for example, using only training losses or a validation split), a sensitivity analysis over the δ_{n,k} values, or both, before drawing the general conclusion that PADAM should be considered for scientific machine learning.
- [§3.6, §3.11, §3.12] Several baseline comparisons use substantially smaller learning rates for SGD and momentum SGD than for the Adam-based methods, with the phrase 'to avoid divergence' (e.g., 3·10^-6 vs 3·10^-4 in §3.6, 10^-4 vs 10^-2 in §3.11, and 3·10^-4 vs 3·10^-3 in §3.12). This makes the comparison uneven, as the baselines may be far from their best settings while PADAM inherits Adam's learning rate. The authors should either tune the baselines per problem and report the best performance, or explicitly restrict the conclusion to the fixed-learning-rate protocol used here.
minor comments (5)
- [Abstract and throughout] There are several typos: 'movering' should be 'moving', 'parallely' should be 'in parallel', and the method name appears inconsistently as 'Padam' and 'PADAM'.
- [Introduction, first paragraph] 'Moroever' should be 'Moreover'; please also unify the capitalization of PADAM/Padam throughout the paper.
- [§3.7, §3.8, §3.12] Typos: 'Furthemore' in §3.7, 'errror' in §3.8, 'Dacry' and 'momentun' in §3.12.
- [Algorithm 1, line 15] Line 15 writes 'δ_{n,j}' but the schedule parameters are indexed as δ_{n,k}; please use a consistent subscript.
- [§2.2, evaluation paragraph] The paragraph defines n_T but does not explicitly state that the plotted quantity uses the Monte Carlo test-error approximations from the figure captions for channel selection; please make the distinction between the test loss used for plotting and the mini-batch loss used in Algorithm 1 explicit.
Circularity Check
PADAM's displayed error is the best-of-K channel selected on test loss, making its claimed advantage partly an artifact of selection.
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self definitional
[Section 2.2, plotting paragraph after Algorithm 1, and the Section 3 figures]
"For displaying the performance of the Padam algorithms, we fixed a threshhold nT ∈ {500, 5000} and compute the test errors Ltest(Θn,j) for the different channels Θn,1, . . . ,Θn,k whenever n is divisible by nT and then plot the test error of the best performing channel for the next nT gradient steps."
The plotted PADAM error is, by construction, min_k Ltest(channel k) evaluated on the test loss used for the evaluation. Moreover, the listed PADAM3 and PADAM10 schedules include δ_n,1 = 0.999, which is exactly the 'Adam with EMA, delta = 0.999' baseline. Hence the reported PADAM curve is a lower envelope of K test-error realizations and is pointwise guaranteed to be no worse than that baseline, so the paper's central observation that PADAM beats Adam-with-EMA is a selection artifact rather than a property of the returned parameter.
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other
[Definition 2.2(iii) versus Algorithm 1, lines 18–24]
"Definition 2.2(iii): 'it holds for all n ∈ N that Θn = ϑ^K_n_n and (K_n+1)J_n ... = min_{k∈{1,2,...,K}} ...' ; Algorithm 1 instead ends with 'k∗ ← 1 ... return θk∗'."
The definition selects the best channel at every step n using disjoint data blocks, while Algorithm 1 updates all channels and returns a single θ_k* chosen once at the end using different J_N-blocks for the comparison. The plotted curves follow the definition's per-n oracle choice rather than the implementable algorithm's returned parameter. Consequently, the numerical evidence does not establish that the runnable selection rule attains the plotted PADAM errors; the reported advantage is tied to a protocol that is not the optimizer as specified in Algorithm 1.
full rationale
The paper contains no mathematical derivation chain; its central claim is empirical. A substantial part of that empirical claim is constructed rather than measured: the PADAM curves shown in the figures are the best-performing channel chosen by test error, and PADAM3/PADAM10 include the exact EMA-0.999 baseline, so outperforming that baseline is guaranteed by taking a minimum. Additionally, Definition 2.2(iii) and Algorithm 1 are mutually inconsistent, so the plotted lower envelope is not what the implementable algorithm returns. The averaging schedules are admitted to have been 'found by trial and error', which further weakens any transfer claim to new problems. On the positive side, the method genuinely shares one Adam trajectory across all channels, so the no-extra-gradient-evaluations property is real and non-circular, and the final reported errors use independent simulation runs for some quantities. The central performance comparison, however, reduces in part to selecting the best of K test errors, so the paper is partially circular in its headline empirical claim.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (3)
- Averaging schedules delta_{n,k} =
e.g., 0.999, 1-n^{-0.7}, 1-0.1 exp(-2n ln(10)/N) for PADAM3; ten variants for PADAM10
- Number of channels K =
3 and 10
- Evaluation threshold n_T =
500 or 5000
assumptions (3)
- domain assumption The Monte Carlo approximations of the test errors with 50 (or 10) runs are accurate enough to rank the optimizers reliably.
- domain assumption The Adam trajectory is well-defined and stable for the chosen learning rates across all problems.
- standard math The loss function is differentiable and gradients are available in closed form or via autodiff.
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Pith. "Pith review of PADAM: Parallel averaged Adam reduces the error for stochastic optimization in scientific machine learning." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/BX5RQDHC
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read the original abstract
Averaging techniques such as Ruppert--Polyak averaging and exponential movering averaging (EMA) are powerful approaches to accelerate optimization procedures of stochastic gradient descent (SGD) optimization methods such as the popular ADAM optimizer. However, depending on the specific optimization problem under consideration, the type and the parameters for the averaging need to be adjusted to achieve the smallest optimization error. In this work we propose an averaging approach, which we refer to as parallel averaged ADAM (PADAM), in which we compute parallely different averaged variants of ADAM and during the training process dynamically select the variant with the smallest optimization error. A central feature of this approach is that this procedure requires no more gradient evaluations than the usual ADAM optimizer as each of the averaged trajectories relies on the same underlying ADAM trajectory and thus on the same underlying gradients. We test the proposed PADAM optimizer in 13 stochastic optimization and deep neural network (DNN) learning problems and compare its performance with known optimizers from the literature such as standard SGD, momentum SGD, Adam with and without EMA, and ADAMW. In particular, we apply the compared optimizers to physics-informed neural network, deep Galerkin, deep backward stochastic differential equation and deep Kolmogorov approximations for boundary value partial differential equation problems from scientific machine learning, as well as to DNN approximations for optimal control and optimal stopping problems. In nearly all of the considered examples PADAM achieves, sometimes among others and sometimes exclusively, essentially the smallest optimization error. This work thus strongly suggest to consider PADAM for scientific machine learning problems and also motivates further research for adaptive averaging procedures within the training of DNNs.
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