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Can Biologically Plausible Temporal Credit Assignment Rules Match BPTT for Neural Similarity? E-prop as an Example
T0 review · 2 major / 6 minor · reviewed 2026-08-07 · deepseek-v4-flash
Pith's one-line read A biologically plausible learning rule, e-prop, can match backpropagation through time in how closely trained recurrent networks reproduce recorded neural activity, once task accuracy is matched.
desk verdict A solid empirical existence result—e-prop can match BPTT in neural similarity at matched accuracy—that is slightly overstated in the abstract, but the core finding survives the main caveat. read the letter →
The pith
A machine-rendered reading of the paper's core claim, the machinery that carries it, and where it could break.
The reading
What carries the argument
The load-bearing machinery has two parts. On the learning side, e-prop truncates the recurrent gradient so each weight update depends only on locally available pre- and postsynaptic activity and a third top-down instructive signal, implemented as an eligibility trace times an error signal; this is the biologically plausible temporal credit-assignment rule under test. On the evaluation side, Procrustes distance, the residual angle between two neural representations after optimal orthogonal alignment, quantifies how close RNN hidden states are to recorded neural activity, and matching task accuracy before comparing distances isolates the learning rule's effect. A comparison noise floor built from data-to-data distances between neuron subsets gives the scale for interpreting model-data distances.
What would settle it
Record neural activity while animals perform a third temporal task, train e-prop and BPTT networks to matched accuracy, and compare both Procrustes distance and a measure that retains single-trial variability such as dynamical similarity analysis on un-averaged trials; the claim would fail if e-prop sat consistently farther from the data than BPTT on either measure across seeds and initializations.
Extended reading notes
Core claim
The central discovery is an existence result: there is at least one biologically plausible learning rule, e-prop, whose trained recurrent networks match BPTT-trained networks in how closely their trial-averaged hidden-state geometry aligns with electrode recordings, once task accuracy is matched. On the Sussillo 2015 motor-cortex task and the Mante 2013 prefrontal context-dependent task, Procrustes distances from model activity to neural data are statistically indistinguishable for BPTT and e-prop, and additional measures (CCA, CKA, dynamical similarity analysis) and qualitative dPCA comparisons point the same way. The authors further report that initial weight gain influences model-data distance more than the learning-rule choice, that e-prop behaves like BPTT with a lower learning rate plus a gradient approximation error, and that a one-dimensional linear RNN toy model shows e-prop can converge to or diverge from the BPTT solution depending on initialization.
Load-bearing premise
The paper's argument assumes, as it acknowledges in its Discussion, that Procrustes distance between trial-averaged RNN activity and trial-averaged recordings is a trustworthy measure of brain-likeness; if that scalar misses functionally important structure, matched distances would not establish that e-prop is as brain-like as BPTT.
Editorial extensions
If this is right
- BPTT-trained RNNs are not uniquely privileged in reproducing brain-like representations on this measure; local learning rules can match them.
- Neural-similarity comparisons between learning rules should control architecture and initialization, since those factors can dominate the effect of the rule itself.
- e-prop-trained networks can serve as biologically plausible alternatives in brain modelling without sacrificing neural alignment, at least on the tasks tested.
- The e-prop/BPTT gap shrinks at lower BPTT learning rates, suggesting the practical difference between the rules is partly a learning-rate effect.
- Because e-prop's convergence depends on initialization even in a one-dimensional linear case, matched similarity is not guaranteed for all initial conditions.
Reading between the lines
- Editorial inference: the results suggest that any 'locality penalty' may be invisible in representation geometry; the dominant drivers of brain-likeness could be task, architecture, and initialization rather than the credit-assignment algorithm.
- A testable extension would compare e-prop and BPTT on single-trial dynamics or on similarity measures that penalize trial-to-trial variability, since trial averaging could in principle mask differences the Procrustes metric does not see.
- The paper's noise-floor analysis implies that future model-brain comparisons should report distances relative to a data-data baseline; otherwise 'close to neural data' has no absolute meaning.
- One could also test whether other local rules, such as ModProp or node perturbation, show the same matched-similarity pattern across more tasks, which would generalize the existence claim from one rule to a class.
Editorial analysis
A structured set of objections, weighed in public.
Referee Report
Summary. The paper asks whether biologically plausible temporal credit assignment rules, specifically e-prop, can match BPTT in neural data similarity when task accuracy is matched. RNNs are trained on two primate neuroscience datasets (Sussillo 2015 and Mante 2013) using BPTT, e-prop, truncated BPTT, and (in the appendix) ModProp, node perturbation, and evolutionary strategies. Similarity to neural recordings is quantified primarily with Procrustes distance, with additional CCA, CKA, dPCA, and DSA analyses. The authors report that e-prop and BPTT achieve comparable Procrustes distances at matched accuracies, that initial weight gain and architecture affect similarity more than the learning rule, that lower BPTT learning rates increase similarity to e-prop, and that the two rules produce similar weight eigenspectra and dynamical properties. A toy 1D linear RNN result (Proposition 4.1 / B.1) illustrates that e-prop can converge to or diverge from a BPTT-found solution depending on initialization. The central empirical claim is that a biologically plausible learning rule can match BPTT in neural data similarity under matched performance.
Significance. If the claim holds, it is a meaningful contribution: it suggests that synaptic-level locality constraints do not inherently prevent a learning rule from producing brain-like representations, and it provides a useful benchmark for future comparisons of learning rules. The paper's strengths include the use of multiple similarity measures (Procrustes, CCA, CKA, DSA), several control conditions (noise removal, Dale's law, feedback alignment, node perturbation, evolutionary strategies), and publicly available code. The formal toy proposition in Appendix B is clearly stated and proved, though very limited in scope. The main empirical findings are internally consistent, but the headline existence claim is currently qualified by a confound in the primary Sussillo 2015 result (the sparsity mask) and by the small number of seeds/datasets.
major comments (2)
- [Appendix A.3 and Figure 1B] The headline Sussillo 2015 result in Figure 1B is computed under a 25% recurrent-weight sparsity mask (only 25% of recurrent weights are nonzero and trainable), as stated in Appendix A.3. This mask is not mentioned in the abstract, is not applied to the Mante 2013 panel, and is not part of the settings described in Table 2 or Figure 5. Since the paper's own Figure 2 and Table 1 show that architectural and initialization choices (e.g., gain) can affect Procrustes distance more than the learning-rule choice, the sparsity mask is a plausible driver of the e-prop/BPTT similarity in Figure 1B. The abstract's unqualified existence claim therefore overreaches until the comparison is repeated without the mask, or the claim is explicitly restricted to sparse e-prop.
- [Table 1 and Table 2] The equivalence between e-prop and BPTT is supported mainly by non-significant differences (p > 0.05) in uncorrected t-tests across four random seeds per dataset. With n = 4, these tests have low power, and non-significance is not evidence of equivalence. The paper should report effect sizes and confidence intervals, or use an equivalence testing framework (e.g., TOST), to make the 'comparable similarity' claim quantitative. The current presentation, while suggestive, is weaker than the stated conclusion.
minor comments (6)
- [Appendix A.3, Table 4 caption] The text refers to 'Table A.3' but the table is labeled 'Table 4'; please fix the cross-reference.
- [Introduction, Contribution 1] The phrase 'demonstrate thereexists' contains a typo; it should read 'demonstrate there exists.'
- [Figure 3 caption] The caption reads 'E-prop — has been viewed as BPTT with a reduced learning rate...' which is grammatically awkward; please rephrase.
- [Appendix A.2] The text says 'we explore devolutionary strategies' — this is a typo for 'evolutionary strategies.'
- [Equation (4)] The use of φ in the Procrustes distance formula is not defined; presumably it is a whitening transform, but it should be stated explicitly for reproducibility.
- [Table 1] The row labeled 'Noise ceiling' is described as untrained models; 'noise ceiling' conventionally refers to an upper bound on achievable similarity given data variability, so the label is misleading and should be changed to 'untrained models' or explained.
Circularity Check
No circular derivation: the e-prop/BPTT neural-similarity comparison is an independent empirical benchmark against external recordings; the only self-cited decomposition (Liu et al. 2022a) is a non-load-bearing explanatory aside.
full rationale
The paper's central claim is an empirical existence result: e-prop and BPTT RNNs are trained independently under matched settings and then compared, via Procrustes distance, to external neural recordings (Sussillo 2015 and Mante 2013; Figure 1B, Table 2). Neither the e-prop update (Eq. 8) nor the Procrustes metric (Eq. 4) is defined in terms of the other rule or in terms of the neural-similarity outcome, so the comparison is not forced by construction. The self-citation to Liu et al. 2022a ('e-prop can be decomposed into a lower learning rate BPTT and an approximation error') appears only in the explanatory discussion around Figure 3 and is corroborated by the paper's own control in Figure 3B; it is not a premise of the main result. Proposition 4.1 is a toy theorem whose assumptions directly imply its conclusion, but it is explicitly presented as motivation rather than as evidence for the empirical claim. The Discussion's identifiability caveat and the Appendix A.3 note that the Sussillo 2015 panel applies a 25% recurrent-weight sparsity mask are legitimate generalizability and robustness limitations, not circularity. No step in the claimed derivation chain reduces to its own inputs by definition or by fit, so the only issue is the single non-load-bearing self-citation, which keeps the circularity score minimal.
Assumptions & free parameters
free parameters (6)
- Initial weight gain g =
0.0, 0.5, 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 (scanned)
- Learning rate =
1e-3 default; grid searched over {3e-3,1e-3,3e-4,1e-4}
- Recurrent noise standard deviation =
0.1 (default), removed in controls
- Sparsity constraint for Sussillo 2015 =
25% nonzero recurrent weights in Figure 1
- ModProp hyperparameter mu =
0.25
- DSA hyperparameters =
n_delays in {5,10,15,20}, rank in {10,20,30,40}
assumptions (5)
- domain assumption Procrustes distance is an appropriate and sufficient measure of neural similarity (Eq. 4).
- domain assumption Trial averaged neural activity is the right substrate for comparing models to brains.
- domain assumption BPTT is the appropriate benchmark for brain-like models.
- standard math e-prop is equivalent to RFLO and its gradient truncation is a faithful local approximation.
- domain assumption The 1D linear RNN toy model dynamics (Eqs. 12-14) capture the relevant behavior of e-prop convergence.
Cite this review
Pith. "Pith review of Can Biologically Plausible Temporal Credit Assignment Rules Match BPTT for Neural Similarity? E-prop as an Example." pith.science (2026). https://pith.science/paper/TBO7Z2RH
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read the original abstract
Understanding how the brain learns may be informed by studying biologically plausible learning rules. These rules, often approximating gradient descent learning to respect biological constraints such as locality, must meet two critical criteria to be considered an appropriate brain model: (1) good neuroscience task performance and (2) alignment with neural recordings. While extensive research has assessed the first criterion, the second remains underexamined. Employing methods such as Procrustes analysis on well-known neuroscience datasets, this study demonstrates the existence of a biologically plausible learning rule -- namely e-prop, which is based on gradient truncation and has demonstrated versatility across a wide range of tasks -- that can achieve neural data similarity comparable to Backpropagation Through Time (BPTT) when matched for task accuracy. Our findings also reveal that model architecture and initial conditions can play a more significant role in determining neural similarity than the specific learning rule. Furthermore, we observe that BPTT-trained models and their biologically plausible counterparts exhibit similar dynamical properties at comparable accuracies. These results underscore the substantial progress made in developing biologically plausible learning rules, highlighting their potential to achieve both competitive task performance and neural data similarity.
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