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Orbital Pumping in Ferrimagnetic Insulators

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Pith's one-line read This paper shows that the ferrimagnetic insulator BiYIG pumps pure orbital currents, generated by coherent and thermal magnons, directly into adjacent metals without any spin-to-orbital converter layer.

desk verdict First direct orbital pumping from a ferrimagnetic insulator, credible but with a control that needs sharper quantification. read the letter →

arxiv 2506.11878 v1 pith:5NZTEYVV submitted 2025-06-13 cond-mat.mes-hall cond-mat.mtrl-sci

Hanchen Wang , Min-Gu Kang , Davit Petrosyan , Shilei Ding , Richard Schlitz , Lauren J. Riddiford , William Legrand , Pietro Gambardella This is my paper
classification cond-mat.mes-hallcond-mat.mtrl-sci
keywords orbitalpumpingferrimagneticinsulatormagnonsRashba-EdelsteineffectspinBiYIGHallorbitronics
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The reading

This paper reports the detection of pure orbital currents generated by both coherent and thermal magnons in the ferrimagnetic insulator Bi-doped yttrium iron garnet (BiYIG). The authors argue that these orbital currents are pumped directly by the orbital component of the magnetization dynamics in the insulator, rather than produced by spin-to-orbital conversion, a process they state is inactive in insulators because no conduction electrons are available. The experimental signature is a sizeable converted charge current in naturally oxidized Cu (Cu*) detectors, which are sensitive to orbital currents but not spin currents, while pure Cu and unsubstituted YIG give negligible signals. If the claim holds, it shows that a magnetic insulator can inject orbital angular momentum into an adjacent metal without any converter layer, and that orbital and spin transport can be separated in non-equilibrium angular-momentum devices.

What carries the argument

The load-bearing mechanism is the precessing orbital magnetization of the ferrimagnetic insulator BiYIG, which acts as a source of orbital angular-momentum current; its finite orbital character is indicated by the g-factor exceeding 2. The detection is carried out by the inverse orbital Rashba-Edelstein effect at a Cu/CuOx interface, which converts an orbital current into a transverse charge voltage without requiring spin-to-charge conversion. The experimental platform is a nonlocal nano-stripe device in which a microwave antenna excites both coherent propagating magnons and thermal magnons in BiYIG, and separate detector stripes of Pt, Cr, pure Cu, and naturally oxidized Cu convert the pumped angular-momentum currents; comparing signal sizes and signs across detectors separates the orbital and spin channels.

What would settle it

Insert a 1–2 nm spacer between BiYIG and Cu* that is known to transmit spin currents but block orbital currents, and measure the nonlocal converted voltage; if the pure-orbital signal survives, the claim that it comes from direct orbital pumping is falsified.

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Extended reading notes

Core claim

The core claim is that the orbital component of magnetization dynamics in BiYIG directly pumps a pure orbital current into an adjacent metal, detected as a charge voltage via the inverse orbital Rashba-Edelstein effect at a Cu/CuOx interface. The evidence is comparative: BiYIG/Cu* shows a large coherent and thermal signal; YIG/Cu* is small; pure Cu detectors are negligible; and Cr detectors, which have opposite signs for spin and orbital Hall conductivities, give a negative signal, showing that spin pumping still dominates the total angular-momentum current. Because BiYIG is an insulator and because the g-factor of BiYIG (about 2.03) is larger than that of YIG (about 2.01), the authors assign the orbital signal to the finite orbital magnetization of BiYIG itself. They further show that Ar+ etching of the interface enhances both spin and orbital pumping efficiencies by roughly an order of magnitude.

Load-bearing premise

The argument stands on the premise that spin-to-orbital conversion requires conduction electrons, so a spin current leaving an insulator cannot become an orbital current at the copper interface; if the metal interface could perform that conversion, the Cu* signal would not by itself prove that the orbital current originated from the insulator's magnetization dynamics.

Editorial extensions

If this is right

  • Orbital currents can be generated and detected from insulating magnon systems without converter layers, extending orbitronics beyond metallic magnets.
  • Naturally oxidized Cu acts as a near-pure orbital detector, giving a simple experimental way to separate orbital from spin transport.
  • In BiYIG the orbital current is a minority component of the pumped angular-momentum current, since Cr detectors show the negative spin Hall effect dominating the positive orbital Hall effect.
  • Interface treatments such as Ar+ etching improve transparency for both spin and orbital currents, increasing pumping efficiencies by about an order of magnitude.
  • Doping that increases orbital magnetization, such as Bi substitution in YIG, is a practical handle for turning on orbital pumping from an insulator.

Reading between the lines

Editorial extensions of the paper, not claims the author makes directly.

  • The same nonlocal pumping geometry could be used to search for orbital pumping in other insulators with finite orbital moments, including antiferromagnetic insulators; the paper's note added points to recent terahertz evidence from alpha-Fe2O3 that supports this direction.
  • The paper does not derive a quantitative scaling of the orbital pumping amplitude with the g-factor shift; measuring a Bi-substitution series would test whether the signal tracks the orbital moment and would harden the direct-pumping assignment.
  • Because spin currents dominate in BiYIG, devices that want pure orbital currents may need to suppress spin transmission through interface engineering rather than simply maximize total transparency.
  • If orbital and spin mixing conductances respond differently to surface treatments, then Ar+ etching could be used to tune the orbital-to-spin ratio of the pumped current, a possibility the paper leaves open.
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Editorial analysis

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Referee Report

3 major / 5 minor

Summary. The paper reports experiments on nonlocal angular-momentum pumping from the ferrimagnetic insulator BiYIG into nanoscale detectors made of Pt, Cr, Cu, and naturally oxidized Cu (Cu*). The authors claim to detect pure orbital currents generated by both coherent and thermal magnons in BiYIG, and attribute the signal to direct orbital pumping from the orbital magnetization dynamics of BiYIG rather than to spin-to-orbital conversion. Evidence includes the contrast between Cu* (large signal) and pure Cu (negligible signal), the comparison between BiYIG and unsubstituted YIG (negligible in YIG), the sign analysis for Cr detectors, and the enhancement of signals upon Ar+ etching of the garnet/metal interface.

Significance. If the interpretation is correct, the paper provides the first demonstration of direct orbital pumping from a magnetic insulator without a converter layer, establishing the orbital magnetization dynamics of BiYIG as a source of pure orbital currents. The experimental methodology, based on broad-wavevector nonlocal pumping, enables detection of small signals and is supported by multiple controls: Cu vs Cu*, YIG vs BiYIG, angle and power dependence, and Cr sign analysis. The data are made openly available. The central claim is important for orbitronics and magnon transport, and the experimental approach is a useful contribution even independently of the interpretation.

major comments (3)
  1. [Introduction and section 3 (paragraph beginning "These results lead to two important deductions")] The argument that spin-to-orbital conversion cannot occur because "the latter process is not active in insulators due to the absence of conduction electrons" addresses conversion only inside the insulator. It does not rule out conversion of the pumped spin current into an orbital current at the metallic Cu/CuOx detector interface or within the Cu layer, where conduction electrons and interfacial spin-orbit coupling are present. The Cr result shows that spin currents are the majority angular-momentum channel pumped from BiYIG, so a spin-to-orbital conversion in the detector would produce the same charge signal as direct orbital pumping. The YIG/Cu* control is the only empirical guard against this alternative, but its validity requires that YIG injects a spin current comparable in magnitude to BiYIG through a comparable interface. The paper does not provide a direct measurement of the spin mixing conductance for YIG/Cu* versus BiYIG/Cu*, nor does it quantify the upper bound on the YIG/Cu* signal against the signal expected if Cu* converted spin to orbital with a realistic efficiency. Please provide either a YIG/Cu(5)/Pt(5) control with the same etched interface to establish comparable spin injection, or a quantitative estimate of the expected YIG/Cu* signal under the spin-to-orbital-conversion hypothesis and show that the observed null lies well below that expectation.
  2. [Section 3, Fig. 3 and accompanying text] The normalization of coherent and thermal pumping signals by α_eff^2 and α, respectively, accounts for differences in damping, but it implicitly assumes that the spin mixing conductance (and thus the proportionality constant between precession angle and pumped spin current) is the same for YIG and BiYIG. The paper states that unequal magnetic dissipation is considered, but the spin mixing conductance can differ between YIG and BiYIG due to different electronic structure, lattice matching, and interface properties. If the spin current injected by YIG into Cu* is much smaller than that from BiYIG after the stated normalizations, the null YIG/Cu* signal would be consistent with spin-to-orbital conversion in the detector rather than with the absence of direct orbital pumping. Please provide evidence, for instance from a Cu(5)/Pt(5) detector on YIG with the same etched interface, that the spin injection efficiency from YIG is comparable to that from BiYIG after the α normalizations, or explicitly discuss the uncertainty introduced by unknown mixing-conductance ratios.
  3. [Section 3, sentence beginning "Furthermore, a Cu(5)/Pt(5) detector with an identically etched interface"] The text states that a Cu(5)/Pt(5) detector with an identically etched interface exhibits a large signal, thereby ensuring that interfacial transparency in the YIG or BiYIG/Cu or Cu* devices is substantial. However, the sentence does not specify whether this Cu(5)/Pt(5) control was fabricated on YIG, on BiYIG, or on both. If the control was performed only on BiYIG, it does not constrain the YIG/Cu* interface transparency, and the vanishing YIG/Cu* signal could be due to a poor YIG/Cu* interface rather than to the absence of spin-to-orbital conversion in Cu*. Please clarify which interfaces were used for this control and, if not already done, provide the equivalent YIG/Cu(5)/Pt(5) measurement.
minor comments (5)
  1. [Section 3] There is a typo: "unsubtituted YIG" should be "unsubstituted YIG".
  2. [Reference list] Reference [94] (Lyalin and Kawakami, "Interface transparency to orbital current") is cited as Phys. Rev. B 110, 104418 (2014); the volume number 110 corresponds to 2024, so the year should be corrected to 2024.
  3. [Figure 3] The axis labels in Fig. 3 (e.g., "α2effκp (10-6 × nA/mW)") are difficult to read because of the mix of superscripts and Greek letters; please format them more clearly, for example with explicit multiplication symbols and parentheses.
  4. [Figure 4] The ×10 annotations in Fig. 4 are unclear; please specify whether they indicate scaling factors for the plotted values or for the axes, and ensure all panel labels are consistent with the units stated in the text.
  5. [References] Reference [96] (Huang et al., "Orbital Current Pumping From Ultrafast Light-driven Antiferromagnetic Insulator") lacks volume and page information; please complete the citation.

Circularity Check

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No circularity: the central claim rests on a differential YIG/BiYIG measurement and externally established detector properties, not on a self-referential derivation.

full rationale

The paper reports a differential experimental measurement rather than a derivation. It does not derive an equation whose output equals an input: the charge-generation efficiencies kappa_p,SE are directly measured slopes I_p,SE/P, not fitted parameters. The central assignment, direct orbital pumping from BiYIG into Cu*, is supported by the contrast between BiYIG/Cu* (large) and YIG/Cu* (small) after damping normalization, together with the externally established negligible spin-to-charge conversion of CuO_x and the known spin-pumping behavior of YIG. The statement that spin-to-orbital conversion is not active in insulators due to the absence of conduction electrons is an assumption, but it is not used to define the measured signal; the YIG control independently tests the alternative channel empirically. Self-citations, such as the g-factor of BiYIG reported in the Supplementary Material, are corroborated by external literature and are not the sole support for the orbital-magnetization claim. No fitted input is renamed as a prediction and no self-citation chain forces the conclusion. The possible concern that spin-to-orbital conversion at the Cu/CuO_x interface could mimic the signal is a correctness or alternative-explanation issue, not circularity, because it is addressed by a separate control rather than by construction of the observable.

Assumptions & free parameters 0 free parameters · 4 assumptions · 0 invented entities

No new free parameters or invented entities appear. The central claim depends on four domain assumptions, all stated or cited in the text, concerning spin-orbital interconversion in insulators, the detector properties of oxidized Cu, damping scalings for pumping, and the Hall conductivity signs in Cr.

assumptions (4)
  • domain assumption Spin-to-orbital interconversion is inactive in insulators because they lack conduction electrons.
    Used to rule out the alternative that the observed orbital current in BiYIG/Cu* originates from spin pumping followed by spin-orbital conversion in the metal. Stated in the section on the origin of pumping: 'the latter process is not active in insulators due to the absence of conduction electrons.'
  • domain assumption Naturally oxidized Cu (Cu*) performs strong orbital-to-charge conversion via the inverse orbital Rashba-Edelstein effect and negligible spin-to-charge conversion.
    Central to interpreting the BiYIG/Cu* voltage as an orbital current. Relies on prior literature (refs 36, 44, 51-60) and on the internal control that YIG/Cu* shows negligible signal.
  • domain assumption For comparing YIG and BiYIG, coherent pumping efficiency scales as alpha_eff^-2 and thermal (Seebeck) efficiency scales as alpha^-1, with garnet thickness smaller than the magnon relaxation length.
    Used to normalize efficiencies across materials with different damping. Stated in the origin-of-pumping section: 'we multiply kappa_p by alpha_eff^2 and kappa_SE by alpha ... since in either case, the garnet thickness is smaller than the magnon relaxation length.'
  • domain assumption The spin Hall conductivity of Cr is negative and its orbital Hall conductivity is positive, so the sign of the converted current identifies the dominant channel.
    Used to conclude spin dominance in BiYIG/Cr. Based on theoretical results cited from refs 29, 40, 42, 91, 92, not measured in this work.

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We report the detection of pure orbital currents generated by both coherent and thermal magnons in the magnetic insulator Bi-doped yttrium iron garnet (BiYIG). The pumping of orbital and spin currents is jointly investigated in nano-devices made of naturally oxidized Cu, pure Cu, Pt, and Cr. The absence of charge conduction in BiYIG and the negligible spin-to-charge conversion of oxidized Cu allows us to disambiguate the orbital current contribution. Comparative measurements on YIG and BiYIG show that the origin of the orbital pumping in BiYIG/oxidized Cu is the dynamics of the orbital magnetization in the magnetic insulator. In Cr, the pumping signal is dominated by the negative spin Hall effect rather than the positive orbital Hall effect, indicating that orbital currents represent a minority of the total angular momentum current pumped from the magnetic insulator. Our results also evidence that improving the interfacial transparency significantly enhances pumping efficiencies not only for spin, but also for orbital currents.

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